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Gus responds to Schlopy's post

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Hoodski8
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http://tinyurl.com/Attitude-co-uk-Interview

I did see that one of your fellow skiers [Alex Schlopy] had a bit of a public dig this week, saying that you were using coming out to boost your own profile. How did that feel from someone you know so well?

You know, I get a lot of message from people saying ‘This is ridiculous, I don’t have a magazine cover for being straight’, and I’m like ‘No shit!’ It’s expected that if you’re in sports; you’re straight. And [his comments] really bummed me out because that’s someone I’ve known for a number of years, and someone I compete against, and if he did feel these things, I felt like voicing it on a public forum like Instagram is just a little bit rude. I’d rather he’d just reached out to me.

The original caption [on his post] said ‘I’ve got friends that are gay and friends that are drug addicts, and they don’t have magazine covers,’ and I was really upset by the fact he compared being gay to being a drug addict. And of course doing the [ESPN] cover was for me in a lot of ways, but it was also for all the kids who’ve reached out to me since with their story, who’ve messaged me and said ‘because of the article I came out to my mom’, and I feel like if my article helps one kid or saves one kid’s life, that’s a win. If certain people don’t see that then that’s fine with me.
Nov 12 2015 8:20AM
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razors-chaz
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this didnt really need a thread for it. it could have quite easily just gone in the aschlopy thread and it has been well discussed there in agreement with gus has said that if he felt that way he should have just spoke to his friend personally rather than go down the pre-teen route and call him out on social media.
Nov 12 2015 8:24AM
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Hoodski8
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Sorry bt that, Ive tried but I can't delete this. If a mod wants to they can go ahead and do it.
Nov 12 2015 8:38AM
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BrothsTopaz
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When I first read Alex's IG post, I felt the same as Gus. Something just didn't seem right and I'm glad Gus broke silence on that pet.
Nov 12 2015 8:43AM
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chacha33
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We're all friends here, but I'm glad Gus responded. Theres no room for anything homophobic in skiing culture we won't allow it
Nov 12 2015 8:54AM
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Deepskier
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I don't know i don't re visit threads too much
Nov 12 2015 10:32AM
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willysworld
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He needs Jesus 😑
Nov 12 2015 11:38AM
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stefC
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chacha33We're all friends here, but I'm glad Gus responded. Theres no room for anything homophobic in skiing culture we won't allow it


What part of Schlopy's IG post did you deem homophobic?

"I've been waiting a minute to try and word this properly. I've been boys with @guskenworthy since we were very young. So... Here it is- I'm very proud of you for coming out and being you, it must be a huge weight off your shoulders my dude. Not gonna lie, we all knew... Kind of haha. Doesn't matter. You're my boy either way. However, I do not like how you used your coming out to build yourself up even more. I know it must have been tough and we all fight our own battles... Hopefully you use this to do something good for the sport and other people. That being said you're a fucking nasty shredder and I have mad respect for you- gay or not. Shred life and support to the LGBT community. 😜 Love you my dude👌🏼"
Nov 12 2015 12:57PM
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saskskier
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chacha33We're all friends here, but I'm glad Gus responded. Theres no room for anything homophobic in skiing culture we won't allow it


stefCWhat part of Schlopy's IG post did you deem homophobic?

"I've been waiting a minute to try and word this properly. I've been boys with @guskenworthy since we were very young. So... Here it is- I'm very proud of you for coming out and being you, it must be a huge weight off your shoulders my dude. Not gonna lie, we all knew... Kind of haha. Doesn't matter. You're my boy either way. However, I do not like how you used your coming out to build yourself up even more. I know it must have been tough and we all fight our own battles... Hopefully you use this to do something good for the sport and other people. That being said you're a fucking nasty shredder and I have mad respect for you- gay or not. Shred life and support to the LGBT community. 😜 Love you my dude👌🏼"


Nothing in his post was homophobic, but we live in a day where anything less than wholehearted approval and support of the lgbtq community is considered homophobic.
Nov 12 2015 1:13PM
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chacha33
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stefCWhat part of Schlopy's IG post did you deem homophobic?

"I've been waiting a minute to try and word this properly. I've been boys with @guskenworthy since we were very young. So... Here it is- I'm very proud of you for coming out and being you, it must be a huge weight off your shoulders my dude. Not gonna lie, we all knew... Kind of haha. Doesn't matter. You're my boy either way. However, I do not like how you used your coming out to build yourself up even more. I know it must have been tough and we all fight our own battles... Hopefully you use this to do something good for the sport and other people. That being said you're a fucking nasty shredder and I have mad respect for you- gay or not. Shred life and support to the LGBT community. 😜 Love you my dude👌🏼"


saskskierNothing in his post was homophobic, but we live in a day where anything less than wholehearted approval and support of the lgbtq community is considered homophobic.


I didn't mean Schlopys post was homophobic it was the comments in both of their IG posts arguing over stupid shit. Just my sad attempt at sarcasm really lol
Nov 12 2015 1:20PM
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Elg
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another thread on this? Really?
Nov 12 2015 1:35PM
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EvanMeyer
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schlopy is still relevant? other than that aspen shoot in mutiny the last time I remembered hearing his name was when he won dumont cup and went to joss as the rookie
Nov 12 2015 2:46PM
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AndrewGravesSV
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EvanMeyerschlopy is still relevant? other than that aspen shoot in mutiny the last time I remembered hearing his name was when he won dumont cup and went to joss as the rookie


He's been on the comp scene in big airs
Nov 12 2015 3:33PM
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dun.Can
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D87It’s expected that if you’re in sports; you’re straight.


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Nov 12 2015 7:59PM
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CheddarJack
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dun.Canfalse


Wanna expand on that?
Nov 12 2015 8:06PM
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dun.Can
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CheddarJackWanna expand on that?


not really. sorry i dont feel like getting into an agruement about this on a ski website
Nov 12 2015 8:09PM
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PeppermillReno
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Either support your friend or don't. Or mind your own business. Its lame as fuck trying to criticize someone but be kissing their ass and apologizing while doing so.
Nov 12 2015 11:32PM
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californiagrown
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saskskierNothing in his post was homophobic, but we live in a day where anything less than wholehearted approval and support of the lgbtq community is considered homophobic.

Uh, yeah. thats cause it is. Anything less than wholehearted approval and support of the black community is considered racist. Treat em like an equal... cause they are. Thats all they want.

Whats the difference between disaproving of gay marriage and interracial mariage? Answer: being racist and being homophobic. Both of which are allowed by the american constitution btw, but that doesnt change the FACT its still racism and homophobia.
PeppermillRenoEither support your friend or don't. Or mind your own business. Its lame as fuck trying to criticize someone but be kissing their ass and apologizing while doing so.


Eh, talking shit is part of life. But talking shit behind someones back is bitchy. Talking shit on social media is laughably teenage girl bitchy. WTF? Schlopy is a grown ass man acting like a 13 year old girl. The fuck?
Nov 12 2015 11:49PM
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270on420out
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Schlopy made it public for a reason. I'm guessing it had something to do with humbling Gus.
Nov 13 2015 12:04AM
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HenriksDreads
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THEDIRTYBUBBLESchlopy made it public for a reason. I'm guessing it had something to do with humbling Gus.


he could've humbled him by bringing it up 1 on 1. he didn't have to be like a pre teen girl and make an instagram post about it, all the while ass kissing him. that was such a fucking douche move of schlopy, i'm sorry.
Nov 13 2015 1:35AM
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Powdered_Donuts
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Blah blah blah what the fuck is this Entertainment Tonight?
Nov 13 2015 9:07AM
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HenriksDreads
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Powdered_DonutsBlah blah blah what the fuck is this Entertainment Tonight?


This is Newschoolers and lots of places haven't opened yet... So yes
Nov 13 2015 9:31AM
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theabortionator
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Why can't we all just be friends.

We live more on the internet than in real life these days. All our conversations a just a pile of text on some screen.

I feel like it's going to get to the point where nobody will say anything about anything anymore for fear of how it might look. It's all about image and that's understandable. People will jump on anything, protest anything etc.

We spend way to much time carving out this image to send out to everyone. I just wished there was less of that and more living.


YOLO BITCHESSSSSS$$SSS@@@%%%!!@%^&^%&%#$@#
Nov 13 2015 10:08AM
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onLINE
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Schlopy sounds jealous and butthurt. He should probably start learning some PR skills.
Nov 13 2015 10:31AM
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Breaking_Rad
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Gay people should have the same right to the 50+% divorce rate as straight people. I do get a bit of a chuckle when I see that a gay couple that "had been together for 17 years just got a divorce after one year of marriage."

Equality for all.
Nov 13 2015 10:42AM
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JakeBarrett
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I honestly see no problem with what Schlopy posted. He definitely gave him props for coming out and showed full support of it. All he said was that he didn't like the impression that Gus was using his coming out to get publicity. He never stated that Gus coming out was a bad thing, just the way he used it for his own personal gain. While that might not be true and it couldve gone without being said, Schlopy voiced his opinion and still made it clear that Gus is a homie and that won't change cause he came out.
Nov 13 2015 2:09PM
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faux_real
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Barry.McCockinerI honestly see no problem with what Schlopy posted. He definitely gave him props for coming out and showed full support of it. All he said was that he didn't like the impression that Gus was using his coming out to get publicity. He never stated that Gus coming out was a bad thing, just the way he used it for his own personal gain. While that might not be true and it couldve gone without being said, Schlopy voiced his opinion and still made it clear that Gus is a homie and that won't change cause he came out.


Three things. One, he trivialized coming out: "we all face struggles." Two, he laughs at Gus living int he closet: "we all knew...haha." Three, in his original post, he implied that being gay is similar to being a drug addict, which is classic hate speech against gays, up there with comparing homosexuality to bestiality.

I'm sure Schlopy regrets the hell out of that post now. He should renounce it and offer a full apology, not that weak shit he followed up with. The shot of him hugging Gus to me says, "look, I hugged a man, I'm not homophobic! See!?"
Nov 13 2015 2:21PM
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Chubz.
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dun.Cannot really. sorry i dont feel like getting into an agruement about this on a ski website


lol
Nov 13 2015 2:50PM
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cydwhit
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I will support anything you do and any lifestyle choice you make, so long as you're not intolerant! We just absolutely cannot have any intolerant attitudes here!



Wait....
Nov 13 2015 3:44PM
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WVskiing
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Now Gus is trying to make a big deal about this. Gay boy. STFU and go skiing and quit bitching about your feelings being hurt
Nov 13 2015 3:48PM
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Breaking_Rad
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cydwhitI will support anything you do and any lifestyle choice you make, so long as you're not intolerant! We just absolutely cannot have any intolerant attitudes here!



Wait....


https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/793878/The-Dutch
Nov 13 2015 3:56PM
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californiagrown
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cydwhitI will support anything you do and any lifestyle choice you make, so long as you're not intolerant! We just absolutely cannot have any intolerant attitudes here!



Wait....


Black people shouldn't marry whites, jews are the reason for the great recession, women belong in the kitchen, and gays are evil sinners.

All things I have a right to say, believe, and write. Doesn't make me any less of an asshole bigot. Doesn't mean I should be listened to or accepted.
Nov 13 2015 4:01PM
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cydwhit
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Breaking_Radhttps://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/793878/The-Dutch


californiagrownBlack people shouldn't marry whites, jews are the reason for the great recession, women belong in the kitchen, and gays are evil sinners.

All things I have a right to say, believe, and write. Doesn't make me any less of an asshole bigot. Doesn't mean I should be listened to or accepted.


Oh yeah, I'm all about not being an asshole bigot, and I think Alex's post was childish and lame. But I also think some of the responses in this thread (and in greater american culture) are pretty hilarious. You can't preach tolerance and then shout down anyone who disagrees with you.

Why is it ok to call someone a bigot but not another common insult that rhymes with that? Historical oppression? We're writing history now.... Use both of those words or neither, but at least be consistent.

Sure, I'm all about loving people and trying to help them reach their full potential but sensitivity and acceptance can be weaponized just as easily as ignorance and hatred, all that's happening is that the pendulum is swinging.

Does that make sense?

Or is my inner Idahoan showing?
Nov 13 2015 4:18PM
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cydwhit
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californiagrownBlack people shouldn't marry whites, jews are the reason for the great recession, women belong in the kitchen, and gays are evil sinners.

All things I have a right to say, believe, and write. Doesn't make me any less of an asshole bigot. Doesn't mean I should be listened to or accepted.


Also, just to stir the fire a little more, you preach acceptance of different races, ethnicities, and sexual orientations but you think that racists, sexists, and pro-traditional marriage christians should not be "listened to or accepted"

I'm all for not being racist, sexist, or homophobic (actual meaning of that word, not the current interpretations) but if you don't have some higher moral standard to refer to, you've got to either accept everyone or no one.
Nov 13 2015 4:30PM
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californiagrown
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cydwhitOh yeah, I'm all about not being an asshole bigot, and I think Alex's post was childish and lame. But I also think some of the responses in this thread (and in greater american culture) are pretty hilarious. You can't preach tolerance and then shout down anyone who disagrees with you.

Why is it ok to call someone a bigot but not another common insult that rhymes with that? Historical oppression? We're writing history now.... Use both of those words or neither, but at least be consistent.

Sure, I'm all about loving people and trying to help them reach their full potential but sensitivity and acceptance can be weaponized just as easily as ignorance and hatred, all that's happening is that the pendulum is swinging.

Does that make sense?

Or is my inner Idahoan showing?


An analogy I think fits, not in severity, mind you, is:

When you see a helpless old lady getting mugged should you call the police and hope they get there in time or physically stop the mugging using equal violence as the mugger?

I think it's totally fine to be intolerant of intolerance. The reaction of intolerance to someone else's vitriol or general intolerance is wholly justified in my mind. Kinda like how I do not condone violence, except when violence is used to stop unprovoked violence.

Gays, women, blacks, Latinos, nerds etc aren't provoking anyone. They should be treated and respected like anyone else- based upon the content of their character.
Nov 13 2015 4:31PM
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californiagrown
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cydwhitAlso, just to stir the fire a little more, you preach acceptance of different races, ethnicities, and sexual orientations but you think that racists, sexists, and pro-traditional marriage christians should not be "listened to or accepted"

I'm all for not being racist, sexist, or homophobic (actual meaning of that word, not the current interpretations) but if you don't have some higher moral standard to refer to, you've got to either accept everyone or no one.

Their intolerance is entirely unprovoked by ANY rational reasoning. Their intolerance hurts the innocent. My intolerance is a reaction to their harmful intolerance, of which they most certainly are guilty.

In otherwords, its unprovoked vs provoked. Harming vs protecting.
Nov 13 2015 4:39PM
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cydwhit
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californiagrownTheir intolerance is entirely unprovoked by ANY rational reasoning. Their intolerance hurts the innocent. My intolerance is a reaction to their harmful intolerance, of which they most certainly are guilty.

In otherwords, its unprovoked vs provoked. Harming vs protecting.




First, thanks for keeping it smart and civil!

My question is though: Who says? Who gets to decide?

"My intolerance is better than your intolerance because yours provoked me!"

The bigots you hate so much would say "your legalizing gay marriage provoked me!"

If intolerant people aren't provoked then why are they intolerant?

Basically my point here is that it's easy to appeal to some higher "but my rational thought justifies my actions" when that's exactly the same argument the bigots are making.

And why is protecting inherently better than harming?

Again, just playing a little bit of a devil's advocate because I think a lot of people just jump on the tolerance bandwagon without actually thinking it through.
Nov 13 2015 4:45PM
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californiagrown
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californiagrownTheir intolerance is entirely unprovoked by ANY rational reasoning. Their intolerance hurts the innocent. My intolerance is a reaction to their harmful intolerance, of which they most certainly are guilty.

In otherwords, its unprovoked vs provoked. Harming vs protecting.


People want guns to protect their home and family? They will agree that violence is wrong, but they are more than willing to use violence to protect their family.

Is that wrong?
Nov 13 2015 4:45PM
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californiagrown
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cydwhitFirst, thanks for keeping it smart and civil!

My question is though: Who says? Who gets to decide?

"My intolerance is better than your intolerance because yours provoked me!"

The bigots you hate so much would say "your legalizing gay marriage provoked me!"

If intolerant people aren't provoked then why are they intolerant?

Basically my point here is that it's easy to appeal to some higher "but my rational thought justifies my actions" when that's exactly the same argument the bigots are making.

And why is protecting inherently better than harming?

Again, just playing a little bit of a devil's advocate because I think a lot of people just jump on the tolerance bandwagon without actually thinking it through.


Why is protecting better than harming? Really? If you can't answer that, I can't help you.

That's a great question- "if intolerant people aren't provoked, why are they intolerant". Likely because people want to feel superior, and create an advantageous social and economic situation for themselves. One way to do this is shit on a minority population. When you have little ability to succeed on your own merits you must find a way to rise by lowering others.
Nov 13 2015 4:55PM
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cydwhit
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californiagrownWhy is protecting better than harming? Really? If you can't answer that, I can't help you.

That's a great question- "if intolerant people aren't provoked, why are they intolerant". Likely because people want to feel superior, and create an advantageous social and economic situation for themselves. One way to do this is shit on a minority population. When you have little ability to succeed on your own merits you must find a way to rise by lowering others.


Oh, haha, I know the answer to that question, I just want to hear yours....
Nov 13 2015 4:57PM
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CrotchKiller
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Holy fucking shit, why does anybody care about any of this? It's fucking ludicrous
Nov 13 2015 8:02PM
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casey_cope
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This thread does not belong in ski gabber anymore...
Nov 13 2015 10:06PM
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Kucher
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its one thing to be gay... but gus is going full blown bitch boy lol



cringe-worthy.
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