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New Messaging system Beta - testers needed

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Mr.Bishop
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Hey everyone,

We just launched into beta a new Messaging system. If you want to help test, jump on over to your account Settings page and Enable "Messaging Beta" down at the bottom.

Post up feedback here.
Jul 28 2015 11:51AM
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tomPietrowski
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That is cool actually. way easier to navigate messages and much easier to see where new messages are.
Jul 28 2015 12:00PM
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ndye
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tomPietrowskiThat is cool actually. way easier to navigate messages and much easier to see where new messages are.


I really dig it, looks good, much easier to navigate. This is tight
Jul 28 2015 12:19PM
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John18_6
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ohhh this is sick, it will be much easier to chat here. i don't know how complex it would be to design but something where there's a chat box on the bottom of the screen like facebook would be off the chain, that way people can chat without going to a separate window/tab
Jul 28 2015 12:25PM
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Mr.Bishop
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john18061806ohhh this is sick, it will be much easier to chat here. i don't know how complex it would be to design but something where there's a chat box on the bottom of the screen like facebook would be off the chain, that way people can chat without going to a separate window/tab


Much harder to do - baby steps. :)
Jul 28 2015 12:46PM
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ModMommy
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Very stoked this is launched to others! I've really been digging it, and think the mods covered most of the little kinks/inconvenient stuff in it.
Jul 28 2015 1:16PM
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John18_6
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Mr.BishopMuch harder to do - baby steps. :)


Just trying to be the guy who's teaching their kid how to ride a bike by yelling "do a backflip pussy"
Jul 28 2015 1:16PM
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.lencon
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Looks and works good, even on mobile. Haven't tried it normal yet tho
Jul 28 2015 1:51PM
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Mr.Bishop
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john18061806Just trying to be the guy who's teaching their kid how to ride a bike by yelling "do a backflip pussy"


Hah yeah believe me I'd like to do that, but we'd need a few more developers to really be able to combat the product Facebook puts out. :)

The step to a really awesome instant messenger system would be more like trying to teach a kid to ride a bike by throwing him into Travis Pastrana's playground and getting him to attempt the first quad backflip on a dirtbike.

.lenconLooks and works good, even on mobile. Haven't tried it normal yet tho


Yeah its designed to work really well on mobile.
Jul 28 2015 2:03PM
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John18_6
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Mr.BishopHah yeah believe me I'd like to do that, but we'd need a few more developers to really be able to combat the product Facebook puts out. :)

The step to a really awesome instant messenger system would be more like trying to teach a kid to ride a bike by throwing him into Travis Pastrana's playground and getting him to attempt the first quad backflip on a dirtbike.


I completely understand, you guys do an amazing job with this site!
Jul 28 2015 3:09PM
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.Hugo.
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I really liked when the user that sent the message showed up above the friends list. I also miss being able to click messages to preview the message without getting rid of the notification. I really like the new layout though
Jul 29 2015 8:22AM
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Mr.Bishop
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.Hugo.I really liked when the user that sent the message showed up above the friends list. I also miss being able to click messages to preview the message without getting rid of the notification. I really like the new layout though


See that little greyed out 'new' button to the right of each message?

Click that and it sets it back to unread.
Jul 30 2015 12:29PM
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Mr.Bishop
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Bump for move to SG to get a few more people testing.
Jul 30 2015 12:44PM
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.GUCCI.
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i really like it, but i notice that if you send a message on mobile it wont show up on there now...kinda makes it a bit hard when trying to b/s/t.
Jul 30 2015 2:57PM
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Mr.Bishop
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Roan.i really like it, but i notice that if you send a message on mobile it wont show up on there now...kinda makes it a bit hard when trying to b/s/t.


There's a sent messages folder at the top of the list, so everything you send is right there.
Jul 30 2015 3:03PM
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.GUCCI.
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Mr.BishopThere's a sent messages folder at the top of the list, so everything you send is right there.


oh shit! cool thanks!
Jul 30 2015 3:27PM
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Brule.
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This beta looks sick
Jul 30 2015 3:36PM
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.HERO
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me gusta
Jul 30 2015 3:37PM
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shin-bang
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dang. i like it
Jul 30 2015 3:40PM
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byubound
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Looks good. Any particular reason why newer messages go to the top? Seems like every other messaging software has new messages towards the bottom, and its whacking me out a little.
Jul 30 2015 4:14PM
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Mr.Bishop
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byuboundLooks good. Any particular reason why newer messages go to the top? Seems like every other messaging software has new messages towards the bottom, and its whacking me out a little.


I don't know about that - gmail, hangouts, snapchat, FB messenger - all have new messages at the top.

We looked at a lot of places to get inspiration.
Jul 30 2015 5:02PM
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byubound
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Mr.BishopI don't know about that - gmail, hangouts, snapchat, FB messenger - all have new messages at the top.

We looked at a lot of places to get inspiration.

My FB messenger, both on an android phone and pc, has the newest messages at the bottom. I don't use any of those services, but my sms is also new at bottom. So is WhatsApp. Its natural for us to read top to bottom, and I kinda feel like having new stuff at top interrupts the flow of reading if you are going through old messages. Certainly not a huge deal breaker though.
Jul 30 2015 5:15PM
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cozyco
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I rly like it. Clean design and easiert to navigate. Well done NS website ghosties!
Jul 30 2015 5:18PM
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Mr.Bishop
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byuboundMy FB messenger, both on an android phone and pc, has the newest messages at the bottom. I don't use any of those services, but my sms is also new at bottom. So is WhatsApp. Its natural for us to read top to bottom, and I kinda feel like having new stuff at top interrupts the flow of reading if you are going through old messages. Certainly not a huge deal breaker though.


Can you post some screen grabs? My iPhone messenger definitely puts new stuff at the top, and at least when I open up my messaging inbox on FB on my windows 10 machine its new at the top.

I'm somehow missing what you're saying - but please show me!
Jul 30 2015 6:52PM
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byubound
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Mr.BishopCan you post some screen grabs? My iPhone messenger definitely puts new stuff at the top, and at least when I open up my messaging inbox on FB on my windows 10 machine its new at the top.

I'm somehow missing what you're saying - but please show me!

Oh, I think what you are thinking is the order of conversations. (E.g. If I message garry at 5 pm and john at 3 pm garry shows up at the top of my conversations). I was talking about when you are actually in a conversation, the newest messages show up at the bottom of the screen. Maybe?
Here is messenger on my phone:


Vs. messages on here:

Not a big issue at all, and it might just be my OCD, but I feel like it's way more natural to read the way it is on messenger.
Jul 30 2015 7:28PM
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Burrrlapz
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Its dope dick
Jul 30 2015 8:11PM
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Mr.Bishop
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byuboundOh, I think what you are thinking is the order of conversations. (E.g. If I message garry at 5 pm and john at 3 pm garry shows up at the top of my conversations). I was talking about when you are actually in a conversation, the newest messages show up at the bottom of the screen. Maybe?
Here is messenger on my phone:


Vs. messages on here:

Not a big issue at all, and it might just be my OCD, but I feel like it's way more natural to read the way it is on messenger.


Ahhhhhhhhhh......

RIGHT.

of course, now it makes perfect sense. I think I'm used to using email where most of the time the newest email is at the top. We could look at switching the order if enough people think the reply box shoudl be at the bottom and then the newest messages in descending order with the newest one at the bottom.
Jul 30 2015 9:15PM
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byubound
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Mr.BishopAhhhhhhhhhh......

RIGHT.

of course, now it makes perfect sense. I think I'm used to using email where most of the time the newest email is at the top. We could look at switching the order if enough people think the reply box shoudl be at the bottom and then the newest messages in descending order with the newest one at the bottom.

Fair enough.
One vote for switching the order, haha
Jul 30 2015 9:23PM
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TheDrop
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Love the new message system, Only complaint is I wish the compose message box was at the bottom and the messages went from most recent at the bottom to oldest at the top, like an iphone message or pretty much any other messaging system ever
Aug 1 2015 2:14AM
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TheDrop
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lol just read the other replies and saw that was already said, well besides that i have no complaints, definitely a huge improvement guys!
Aug 1 2015 2:15AM
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Mr.Bishop
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byuboundFair enough.
One vote for switching the order, haha


TheDropLove the new message system, Only complaint is I wish the compose message box was at the bottom and the messages went from most recent at the bottom to oldest at the top, like an iphone message or pretty much any other messaging system ever


That's two... any more?

Anyone against this and prefers it at the top?
Aug 1 2015 11:52AM
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Mr.Bishop
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Bump for the move to NSG to pick up a few others to try it out.
Aug 1 2015 2:46PM
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KEVTRON
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I dig it. I believe it would be better with the newest reply/comment button on the bottom as well but in all honesty I dont think its that big of a deal if it would be a pain in the ass to change.
Aug 1 2015 2:58PM
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-Robert
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I've only tried it on mobile but I love it. I like being able to see all the previous messages. I do like the text box at the top so then you can scroll through the messages if you need to. And if it's at the top, you don't need to scroll to the bottom to send a message.
Aug 1 2015 4:47PM
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robbinJAHood
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ye yeeeee!! love it
Aug 1 2015 9:12PM
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S.J.W
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I've enabled it but I don't message anyone. So to any pink names out there

Aug 1 2015 11:25PM
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soulskier
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PM'd
Aug 2 2015 12:21AM
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.Hugo.
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Mr.BishopSee that little greyed out 'new' button to the right of each message?

Click that and it sets it back to unread.


This isnt working for me
Aug 3 2015 10:13AM
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soulskier
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Mr.BishopThat's two... any more?

Anyone against this and prefers it at the top?


Absolutely, yes
Aug 3 2015 10:23AM
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Mr.Bishop
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byuboundFair enough.
One vote for switching the order, haha


TheDropLove the new message system, Only complaint is I wish the compose message box was at the bottom and the messages went from most recent at the bottom to oldest at the top, like an iphone message or pretty much any other messaging system ever


I'm sorry guys, the change to put the box at the bottom is relatively difficult. Because of the way our header/footer work, we'd have to build an entirely new page.

So if its OK with you, we're going to roll this out with the box at the top and see how that goes.

If its a huge deal, we can re-visit this in the future!
Aug 4 2015 12:05PM
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byubound
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Mr.BishopI'm sorry guys, the change to put the box at the bottom is relatively difficult. Because of the way our header/footer work, we'd have to build an entirely new page.

So if its OK with you, we're going to roll this out with the box at the top and see how that goes.

If its a huge deal, we can re-visit this in the future!


Cool, not a big deal at all.
Aug 4 2015 12:21PM
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TheDrop
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Mr.Bishopif its OK with you, we're going to roll this out with the box at the top and see how that goes.

If its a huge deal, we can re-visit this in the future!




this is an OUTRAGE
JK i mean its not that big of a deal, its something that will probably be really not that big of a deal once you get used to it
Aug 4 2015 1:05PM
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Mr.Bishop
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FYI Everyone - this has been launched to all members of the site. If you notice anything wonky, post up here for any bugs you see.
Aug 7 2015 3:02PM
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theBearJew
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Digging the new system, only complaint, and I may have just missed it, is that it looks like on mobile you cant send a message from a users profile. You have to go to the message exchange? Was that deliberate? Id still like the ability to send a quick message without going into another link.
Aug 11 2015 11:47AM
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Mr.Bishop
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theBearJewDigging the new system, only complaint, and I may have just missed it, is that it looks like on mobile you cant send a message from a users profile. You have to go to the message exchange? Was that deliberate? Id still like the ability to send a quick message without going into another link.


The profiles are the last piece of the old system, which is being retired. So I'll see if its easy to add back but if not we'll have to re-do profiles before it can come back.
Aug 11 2015 2:57PM
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Big_Spence
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love it. rarely do i use messages anymore but this whole setup is much cleaner and i despised the precious pop up window.

my only suggestion: you should be able to visit a users profile from the chat conversation either by clicking the profile picture or their user name.
Aug 17 2015 1:05PM
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Kretzschmar
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So far, it's been really simple to use and a great improvement over the last rendition.

That being said, the only thing I would suggest to add, if possible, is the ability to group message. Right now its 1 on 1 or mass message. Being able to message just 2 or 3 members at a time would be awesome.
Aug 17 2015 2:17PM
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ModMommy
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KrotchSo far, it's been really simple to use and a great improvement over the last rendition.

That being said, the only thing I would suggest to add, if possible, is the ability to group message. Right now its 1 on 1 or mass message. Being able to message just 2 or 3 members at a time would be awesome.


This.
(Krotch, my Ipad says you the word "so" is misspelled Lol)
Aug 17 2015 3:02PM
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Mr.Bishop
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KrotchSo far, it's been really simple to use and a great improvement over the last rendition.

That being said, the only thing I would suggest to add, if possible, is the ability to group message. Right now its 1 on 1 or mass message. Being able to message just 2 or 3 members at a time would be awesome.


Its all built into it, the interface for sending / managing groups just isn't there yet.

Will come soon.
Aug 18 2015 5:50PM
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