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ABC/WashPo polls reveal that Americans with more education are less likely to support Trump's presidential candidacy. Most strikingly, the ABC/WashPo poll finds only 8 percent of college-degree-holding Republican voters plan to vote for Trump, compared to 32 percent of Republican voters without college degrees. Moreover, those with college degrees (56 percent) are about 6 points more likely to believe that Trump is wrong about immigration compared to those without college degrees (50 percent), the Fox poll finds.
_Fluffy_ABC/WashPo polls reveal that Americans with more education are less likely to support Trump's presidential candidacy. Most strikingly, the ABC/WashPo poll finds only 8 percent of college-degree-holding Republican voters plan to vote for Trump, compared to 32 percent of Republican voters without college degrees. Moreover, those with college degrees (56 percent) are about 6 points more likely to believe that Trump is wrong about immigration compared to those without college degrees (50 percent), the Fox poll finds.
It should come as no surprise as the less educated you are, the more likely you are to vote republican. Hate and ignorance festers in uneducated idiots. Hence why Trump is doing so well with the republican party...
S.J.WIt should come as no surprise as the less educated you are, the more likely you are to vote republican. Hate and ignorance festers in uneducated idiots. Hence why Trump is doing so well with the republican party...
And yet the outrage against Romney's 47% comment, because it insults democrats.
_Fluffy_ABC/WashPo polls reveal that Americans with more education are less likely to support Trump's presidential candidacy. Most strikingly, the ABC/WashPo poll finds only 8 percent of college-degree-holding Republican voters plan to vote for Trump, compared to 32 percent of Republican voters without college degrees. Moreover, those with college degrees (56 percent) are about 6 points more likely to believe that Trump is wrong about immigration compared to those without college degrees (50 percent), the Fox poll finds.
Wait so is it a Fox poll or an ABC/Washington Post poll? You cannot even get your copy-and-pasting right.
I hope everyone realizes the SKILL of balancing a budget is a basic skill that is necessary for anyone that is an adult.
The actual running the numbers of a budget like the government is not so basic, but that's why the president has a staff. You don't actually think the president of the USA is sitting at a desk late at night running budget numbers do you?
How much cash you have to try and balance that budget makes a big difference. Tax revenue plays a big role in this as well as many other factors. If you try to compare different presidents ability to balance a budget it is going to very, very, complicated.
That onenerdykid has the right idea. I think one of the most important qualities for a president is their ability to work with other people. The ability to get some stubborn, hard headed people together and some how get everyone on the same page.
The quality of being great at working with people and PRIORITIZING BALANCING A BUDGET will lead to success. There are lots of presidents that could have balanced the budget very easily, they just valued other things more.
steezerampageI hope everyone realizes the SKILL of balancing a budget is a basic skill that is necessary for anyone that is an adult.
The actual running the numbers of a budget like the government is not so basic, but that's why the president has a staff. You don't actually think the president of the USA is sitting at a desk late at night running budget numbers do you?
How much cash you have to try and balance that budget makes a big difference. Tax revenue plays a big role in this as well as many other factors. If you try to compare different presidents ability to balance a budget it is going to very, very, complicated.
That onenerdykid has the right idea. I think one of the most important qualities for a president is their ability to work with other people. The ability to get some stubborn, hard headed people together and some how get everyone on the same page.
The quality of being great at working with people and PRIORITIZING BALANCING A BUDGET will lead to success. There are lots of presidents that could have balanced the budget very easily, they just valued other things more.
Sorry, I forgot to say I do not think Trump will be good at working with other people in the role of President of the USA
nocturnalHow to file for bankruptcy 5 times, and how to spend his dad's money.
Donald Trump has never personally been bankrupt. He owns multiple companies and five have had to file for bankruptcy. I have yet to do enough research to find out if they were able to restructure and come out of bankruptcy. If the man is worth 4-10 billion dollars, his wins would clearly outweigh his losses, wouldn't you say?
Also, most of the airlines you ride have been bankrupt more than a few times. Trump's businesses also operate in a tough market segment. Furthermore, I hardly remember any of you hypocrites criticizing Obama for using taxpayer money to invest in a slew of corrupt "green energy" companies that all went bankrupt. I would say Obama has much more of losing record, he's approaching 8 trillion in the red.
I don't think Trump is the best candidate, but I cannot help but laugh at those who criticize him for whatever reason, yet wouldn't hesitate to vote for a corrupt snake like Hillary.
CampeadorDonald Trump has never personally been bankrupt. He owns multiple companies and five have had to file for bankruptcy. I have yet to do enough research to find out if they were able to restructure and come out of bankruptcy. If the man is worth 4-10 billion dollars, his wins would clearly outweigh his losses, wouldn't you say?
Also, most of the airlines you ride have been bankrupt more than a few times. Trump's businesses also operate in a tough market segment. Furthermore, I hardly remember any of you hypocrites criticizing Obama for using taxpayer money to invest in a slew of corrupt "green energy" companies that all went bankrupt. I would say Obama has much more of losing record, he's approaching 8 trillion in the red.
I don't think Trump is the best candidate, but I cannot help but laugh at those who criticize him for whatever reason, yet wouldn't hesitate to vote for a corrupt snake like Hillary.
You should probably look into how he made his real estate money
Trump is a corrupt business man just like the rest of them. The only difference is hes not afraid to admit it and even embrace it. It's nice to have candidates actually speaking their mind but that's not exactly a perfect reason to vote for someone.
_Fluffy_Trump is a corrupt business man just like the rest of them. The only difference is hes not afraid to admit it and even embrace it. It's nice to have candidates actually speaking their mind but that's not exactly a perfect reason to vote for someone.
Especially when their mind is full of nonsense and hatred. Speaking your mind is only good quality if you have good things on your mind. Flying off the handle with racist tirades based on illogical fallacies is not a good quality to have and certainly not a quality befitting a world leader.
At least Bernie is a candidate who does speak his mind and has positive ways to improve our society at the same time. If people are interested in a candidate who honestly speaks his mind, he is a much better choice than Trump.
onenerdykidEspecially when their mind is full of nonsense and hatred. Speaking your mind is only good quality if you have good things on your mind. Flying off the handle with racist tirades based on illogical fallacies is not a good quality to have and certainly not a quality befitting a world leader.
At least Bernie is a candidate who does speak his mind and has positive ways to improve our society at the same time. If people are interested in a candidate who honestly speaks his mind, he is a much better choice than Trump.
Looks like you did some spinning there. Trump is definitely being brutally honest (with no political correctness crap)... He is running his campaign completely with his own money; no special interest groups are puppeting him.
The few ideas that he has laid out in detail do sound pretty ambitious and borderline realistic, but at least you know what he is going to be fighting for, which is something I can respect.
I have become so numb to liberals calling conservatives haters, racists, bigots, etc... Do you actually believe Trump could be in the position he is in while being a racist? There is no way. Wanting a legit plan for immigration backed up by enforced rules is not racist in the least. And try telling Kate Steinle's family that Trump is wrong when he says that there are criminals coming up from Mexico.
S-S-KLooks like you did some spinning there. Trump is definitely being brutally honest (with no political correctness crap)... He is running his campaign completely with his own money; no special interest groups are puppeting him.
The few ideas that he has laid out in detail do sound pretty ambitious and borderline realistic, but at least you know what he is going to be fighting for, which is something I can respect.
I have become so numb to liberals calling conservatives haters, racists, bigots, etc... Do you actually believe Trump could be in the position he is in while being a racist? There is no way. Wanting a legit plan for immigration backed up by enforced rules is not racist in the least. And try telling Kate Steinle's family that Trump is wrong when he says that there are criminals coming up from Mexico.
Trump isn't being brutally honest. Trump is being brutally dishonest by spitting out false remarks about Mexico. And I will tell Trump and anyone else who agrees with them that they are wrong.
And don't even bother try googling a peer reviewed study that finds a link between violence and immigration. BECAUSE THERE IS NONE. NOT ONE. BECAUSE IT DOESN'T FUCKING EXIST.
And regarding deporting all illegal immigrants. Well considering that you're republican and the whole republican line is fiscal responsibility. Deporting all illegals would take 20 years and cost around 400-600 billion dollars. And America would actually decline in growth as GDP drops by 1.6 trillion. And these estimates are on the low side as it does not factor in the cost for man hours to make this happen.
And to other points of your quote. Could Trump be in the position he is now whilst actually being a racist? I'm not exactly sure how you define racism (it's probably the wrong definition) but Trump is being insanely racist. And thanks to Trumps racism, he is leading the republican polls.
Trump is funding his own campaign? No fucking shit, give me a 200 million inheritance, millions of government bail out money, corrupt bank ruptcy laws and I will become just as rich as Donald Trump. Anyone would. When you have so much money like he did, it's fucking impossible to lose it all.
And It's laughable to think that you've become so desensitized to liberals calling you a racist. How much racist shit do you say for the word to have no affect on you. But considering that being called racist has no affect on you, maybe other words will. I usually avoid insulting people in discussions of ideals of this website and in general. But holy mother fucker of your mums cunt you are a dumb cunt. How many times did your dads dick hit your brain whilst giving him head did he take for you to be so dumb? I could understand if you said you didn't like immigrants, I wouldn't agree with it but I wouldn't call you wrong. BUT IN THIS CASE YOU ARE SO FUCKING WRONG. Everything you, Trump or any other republican spits out hatred about immigrants bringing crime, raping your sister, taking your job, devaluing the economy is so fucking wrong. So before quoting me again either admit you are wrong and have been misled by the right wing media and by the republican party or kill yourself, because there is no cure for how stupid you are.
S.J.WAnd regarding deporting all illegal immigrants. Well considering that you're republican and the whole republican line is fiscal responsibility. Deporting all illegals would take 20 years and cost around 400-600 billion dollars. And America would actually decline in growth as GDP drops by 1.6 trillion. And these estimates are on the low side as it does not factor in the cost for man hours to make this happen.
Your sources are weak and irrelevant, they include legal immigration, which should not be included. Crime amongst illegal immigrants is significant, I don't need a bullshit left-wing report to make the "conservative" case.
Also, it's cute watching you try to argue economic policy, your analysis is based off of dishonest Krugman-like analysis. Unfortunately, your sociology major has prepared you very poorly to argue economic policy. Your only ability is to use the typical left-wing arsenal of words that you believe give you some supposed moral superiority (racist, bigot, -phobe).
You are a loser and a disgrace, and you will always be a loser and a disgrace. Go back to complaining about "systemic racism" on Twitter (or whatever the flavor of the month is right now), it's truly where you belong, along with all the other social justice losers.
No one takes you seriously.
Even though I question Trump's sincerity, I cannot help but enjoy how much he gets under the skin of the type of people that I cannot stand. If he wins I will want front-row seats to watching all of your heads explode.
S-S-KLooks like you did some spinning there. Trump is definitely being brutally honest (with no political correctness crap)... He is running his campaign completely with his own money; no special interest groups are puppeting him.
The few ideas that he has laid out in detail do sound pretty ambitious and borderline realistic, but at least you know what he is going to be fighting for, which is something I can respect.
I have become so numb to liberals calling conservatives haters, racists, bigots, etc... Do you actually believe Trump could be in the position he is in while being a racist? There is no way. Wanting a legit plan for immigration backed up by enforced rules is not racist in the least. And try telling Kate Steinle's family that Trump is wrong when he says that there are criminals coming up from Mexico.
The end of your first paragraph and your second paragraph also accurately describe Bernie as well. Concerning Trump, being opposed to illegal immigration is not in itself a racist position, but how Trump has handled it and how he has referred to the majority of them as "rapists" is what I was referring to. He's absolutely ridiculous at times.
I have a long response to someone in the current last page of the Sander's thread about how of course there are illegal immigrants who are bad people. The same goes for natural born citizens. Too judge the many in regards to a few is the same argument that Conservatives fall back on when talking about gun control: guns don't kill people, bad people kill people. Immigration is similar in that all of these people aren't the problem, only the bad ones are. If you want to ban all illegal immigrants from coming into the country because a few are committing crimes, then be prepared to handle gun control in the same way. Logical consistency is a good thing and something quite lacking here.
That same consistency is a key trait that few politicians possess and a trait that at least Bernie has proven to possess over the years. Trump has changed his mind on every key position in the last few years to win the popular emotional vote.
CampeadorYou are a loser and a disgrace, and you will always be a loser and a disgrace. Go back to complaining about "systemic racism" on Twitter (or whatever the flavor of the month is right now), it's truly where you belong, along with all the other social justice losers.
No one takes you seriously.
Even though I question Trump's sincerity, I cannot help but enjoy how much he gets under the skin of the type of people that I cannot stand.
dude that's what everyone thinks about You! Your subconscious is literally revealing itself. you are an idiot for being a trump supporter and an asshole As well.
S.J.WI beg to differ. The current Australian treasurer Joe Hockey was like Trump except not as rich and all that shit. And under him being treasurer of Australia the budget has blown out by 47 billion dollars over 4 years under the Abbot government.
Being a buisness man does not equate to knowing how to ballance a budget. Bill Clinton wasn't a buisness man but he managed to ballance the budget.
The Abbott government has only been in power for two years today...
CampeadorYour sources are weak and irrelevant, they include legal immigration, which should not be included. Crime amongst illegal immigrants is significant, I don't need a bullshit left-wing report to make the "conservative" case.
Also, it's cute watching you try to argue economic policy, your analysis is based off of dishonest Krugman-like analysis. Unfortunately, your sociology major has prepared you very poorly to argue economic policy. Your only ability is to use the typical left-wing arsenal of words that you believe give you some supposed moral superiority (racist, bigot, -phobe).
You are a loser and a disgrace, and you will always be a loser and a disgrace. Go back to complaining about "systemic racism" on Twitter (or whatever the flavor of the month is right now), it's truly where you belong, along with all the other social justice losers.
No one takes you seriously.
Even though I question Trump's sincerity, I cannot help but enjoy how much he gets under the skin of the type of people that I cannot stand. If he wins I will want front-row seats to watching all of your heads explode.
Holy fuck I didn't know studies done by Federal Reserve bank of Chicago or the American Immigration council were "weak" and "irrelevant". It's almost like you refuse to accept facts. I'm not linking a CNN article, or a New York Times article. And I've looked at these studies are peer reviewed by 98 people (chicago report) and 16 people reviewed the american immigration council one and I couldn't find a single person disagreeing with them.
"crime amongst illegals is significant", well according to facts that is wrong. And like I've said you can't make the case that it is high among illegals because there isn't a single report out there that links crime to illegals. It's almost like illegals who come to America are determined to make a better life for themselves. Crazy theory I know.
I piss off alot of people on this site. Because everyone has different opinions on shit. But at the end of the day I think most people on this site respect one another because everyone seems to be able argue a point pretty well and see the other person's side. But notice how you're literally the only person arguing about immigration? It's because the facts are in, crime is lower in legal and illegal immigrants. And this isn't an opinion, its a fucking fact. Do you argue with your teacher when she states that 2+2=4 and then you were like well it's my opinion that it's 5 even though you're a dumb cunt and is wrong?
And I'm just going to leave with this, next time you quote me, or nerdy or anyone else on this site. Back up your points with facts. It makes what you're saying a whole lot easier to reason with and see where you're coming from.
S.J.WAnd It's laughable to think that you've become so desensitized to liberals calling you a racist. How much racist shit do you say for the word to have no affect on you. But considering that being called racist has no affect on you, maybe other words will. I usually avoid insulting people in discussions of ideals of this website and in general. But holy mother fucker of your mums cunt you are a dumb cunt. How many times did your dads dick hit your brain whilst giving him head did he take for you to be so dumb? I could understand if you said you didn't like immigrants, I wouldn't agree with it but I wouldn't call you wrong. BUT IN THIS CASE YOU ARE SO FUCKING WRONG. Everything you, Trump or any other republican spits out hatred about immigrants bringing crime, raping your sister, taking your job, devaluing the economy is so fucking wrong. So before quoting me again either admit you are wrong and have been misled by the right wing media and by the republican party or kill yourself, because there is no cure for how stupid you are.
Ok this is exactly the point I was trying to make. I actually never get called a racist, but you went ahead in calling me one, as well as other insults on top of it. If you read my original post I say when "liberals call conservatives racist". It's not all liberals that do this, but you seem to be one of them. Am I racist because I support conservative values? If that's the case I think this argument is done. I don't entertain the viewpoints of real racists for too long, and I wouldn't expect you to either.
I would be fired instantly if I was a racist. I work for a company that has customers all across the globe and naturally people of all colors and races. If Trump was "insanely racist" HE WOULD HAVE NO BUISNESS. What do you call all of his customers then... they are just okay with him being a raging racist, I don't think so.
This is the hating/name-calling that I think 5-10 years ago people bought into, now I think people are waking up and growing old of it. You say that crime amongst illegals is insignificant well that's good... but we still have murders that are completely preventable (Kate Steinle). Crime amongst illegals shouldn't be something that we are just okay with, however small the numbers may be. It should be something we try to ELIMINATE.
What would you want your government to be saying:
-only X amount of people were killed last year, we are satisfied with that
-or, what can we do to make X go to zero
S-S-KOk this is exactly the point I was trying to make. I actually never get called a racist, but you went ahead in calling me one, as well as other insults on top of it. If you read my original post I say when "liberals call conservatives racist". It's not all liberals that do this, but you seem to be one of them. Am I racist because I support conservative values? If that's the case I think this argument is done. I don't entertain the viewpoints of real racists for too long, and I wouldn't expect you to either.
I would be fired instantly if I was a racist. I work for a company that has customers all across the globe and naturally people of all colors and races. If Trump was "insanely racist" HE WOULD HAVE NO BUISNESS. What do you call all of his customers then... they are just okay with him being a raging racist, I don't think so.
This is the hating/name-calling that I think 5-10 years ago people bought into, now I think people are waking up and growing old of it. You say that crime amongst illegals is insignificant well that's good... but we still have murders that are completely preventable (Kate Steinle). Crime amongst illegals shouldn't be something that we are just okay with, however small the numbers may be. It should be something we try to ELIMINATE.
What would you want your government to be saying:
-only X amount of people were killed last year, we are satisfied with that
-or, what can we do to make X go to zero
Well first off he still gets bussiness regardless if he's rascist because many others have similar views And a good sum of his money was inherited anyways. Also sjw isn't saying that people dying is insignificant, he's saying that the conservative ideal that crime resides within certain groups more than others is flawed and can't be used in an argument for imigration. You can't say "we need to deport Mexicans because there murderers" when the large portion do not commit crime.
S-S-KOk this is exactly the point I was trying to make. I actually never get called a racist, but you went ahead in calling me one, as well as other insults on top of it. If you read my original post I say when "liberals call conservatives racist". It's not all liberals that do this, but you seem to be one of them. Am I racist because I support conservative values? If that's the case I think this argument is done. I don't entertain the viewpoints of real racists for too long, and I wouldn't expect you to either.
I would be fired instantly if I was a racist. I work for a company that has customers all across the globe and naturally people of all colors and races. If Trump was "insanely racist" HE WOULD HAVE NO BUISNESS. What do you call all of his customers then... they are just okay with him being a raging racist, I don't think so.
This is the hating/name-calling that I think 5-10 years ago people bought into, now I think people are waking up and growing old of it. You say that crime amongst illegals is insignificant well that's good... but we still have murders that are completely preventable (Kate Steinle). Crime amongst illegals shouldn't be something that we are just okay with, however small the numbers may be. It should be something we try to ELIMINATE.
What would you want your government to be saying:
-only X amount of people were killed last year, we are satisfied with that
-or, what can we do to make X go to zero
Actually if you read correctly, I said how much racist shit do you have to say in order for the word to have no affect on you. But I digress.
And just google trump saying racist shit, sexist shit or offensive shit. In the world of multi million dollar businesses no one gives a fuck if you're offensive or say racist shit. Look at how people treach each other on wall street. If I ever got a job on wall street I could walk in call my boss a cunt and as long as I made him/her more money they don't give a fuck. Money talks.
We shouldn't be okay with any crime. I'm not saying illegals are perfect people who won't commit crime. I'm saying that the general public's opinion on illegals has been swayed by misinformation and fear mongering rather than presenting facts.
And I agree with you you, there are crimes that can be prevented. Like that of Kate. But we could literally take any race of people, legal or illegal and pick a news story to persuade public opinion.
Blacks- Murder of Christopher Lane by a bored teenager.
Whites- Dylan Roof
Hispanic- murder of Kate by an illegal.
Asian-Jennifer Pan
And the list could continue for days.
S.J.WTrump isn't being brutally honest. Trump is being brutally dishonest by spitting out false remarks about Mexico. And I will tell Trump and anyone else who agrees with them that they are wrong.
And don't even bother try googling a peer reviewed study that finds a link between violence and immigration. BECAUSE THERE IS NONE. NOT ONE. BECAUSE IT DOESN'T FUCKING EXIST.
And regarding deporting all illegal immigrants. Well considering that you're republican and the whole republican line is fiscal responsibility. Deporting all illegals would take 20 years and cost around 400-600 billion dollars. And America would actually decline in growth as GDP drops by 1.6 trillion. And these estimates are on the low side as it does not factor in the cost for man hours to make this happen.
And to other points of your quote. Could Trump be in the position he is now whilst actually being a racist? I'm not exactly sure how you define racism (it's probably the wrong definition) but Trump is being insanely racist. And thanks to Trumps racism, he is leading the republican polls.
Trump is funding his own campaign? No fucking shit, give me a 200 million inheritance, millions of government bail out money, corrupt bank ruptcy laws and I will become just as rich as Donald Trump. Anyone would. When you have so much money like he did, it's fucking impossible to lose it all.
And It's laughable to think that you've become so desensitized to liberals calling you a racist. How much racist shit do you say for the word to have no affect on you. But considering that being called racist has no affect on you, maybe other words will. I usually avoid insulting people in discussions of ideals of this website and in general. But holy mother fucker of your mums cunt you are a dumb cunt. How many times did your dads dick hit your brain whilst giving him head did he take for you to be so dumb? I could understand if you said you didn't like immigrants, I wouldn't agree with it but I wouldn't call you wrong. BUT IN THIS CASE YOU ARE SO FUCKING WRONG. Everything you, Trump or any other republican spits out hatred about immigrants bringing crime, raping your sister, taking your job, devaluing the economy is so fucking wrong. So before quoting me again either admit you are wrong and have been misled by the right wing media and by the republican party or kill yourself, because there is no cure for how stupid you are.
S-S-KYou say that crime amongst illegals is insignificant well that's good... but we still have murders that are completely preventable (Kate Steinle). Crime amongst illegals shouldn't be something that we are just okay with, however small the numbers may be. It should be something we try to ELIMINATE.
What would you want your government to be saying:
-only X amount of people were killed last year, we are satisfied with that
-or, what can we do to make X go to zero
To steal onenerdykid's argument: so how do you feel about gun control? The arguments against immigration and gun control are logically inconsistent.
S.J.WLook at how people treach each other on wall street. If I ever got a job on wall street I could walk in call my boss a cunt and as long as I made him/her more money they don't give a fuck. Money talks.
No but I asked my math and economic teachers how the world of finance worked and they said it was pretty damn close to wolf of wallstreet. (minus fucking hookers at work)
SFBwhoa bro did u watch a wolf on wallstreet???
"wolf on wallstreet", you're so smart dude. Those two brain cells must have worked over time to remember the name of the movie.
S.J.WNo but I asked my math and economic teachers how the world of finance worked and they said it was pretty damn close to wolf of wallstreet. (minus fucking hookers at work)
S.J.Wmy math teacher was the head economist for channel 7 news and other major banks in Australia. Wouldn't exactly call him an idiot
He's clearly exaggerating. Finance is surprisingly boring. It involves sitting at your desk for 16+ hours a day plugging numbers into excel, battling with printers, dealing with inane requests from MDs, fantasizing what you'll spend your bonus on and talking shit on newschoolers.
--ski--He's clearly exaggerating. Finance is surprisingly boring. It involves sitting at your desk for 16+ hours a day plugging numbers into excel, battling with printers, dealing with inane requests from MDs, fantasizing what you'll spend your bonus on and talking shit on newschoolers.
I don't think he was. Sure some finance is boring, and other finance is fucking crazy ride. All depends on which pill you took. The red or the blue.
S.J.WI don't think he was. Sure some finance is boring, and other finance is fucking crazy ride. All depends on which pill you took. The red or the blue.
No it's all pretty mundane. Sure, some traders are crazy, as in mentally unstable, but their harmless.
mirozTo steal onenerdykid's argument: so how do you feel about gun control? The arguments against immigration and gun control are logically inconsistent.
There may be some parallels between the two topics, but it is still apples to oranges. If "Kate's Law" would have been a signed law there would have been no possible way Francisco Sanchez could have murdered anyone, because he would have been locked up. For gun control you can have the highest restrictions signed into law and you will still have shootings.
It isn't as straightforward as Law A will prevent B from happening with gun control. With illegal aliens that commit crimes, it is for the most part that straightforward...
I don't want to get into a gun control debate in this Trump thread, you probably know where I stand
S-S-KThere may be some parallels between the two topics, but it is still apples to oranges. If "Kate's Law" would have been a signed law there would have been no possible way Francisco Sanchez could have murdered anyone, because he would have been locked up. For gun control you can have the highest restrictions signed into law and you will still have shootings.
It isn't as straightforward as Law A will prevent B from happening with gun control. With illegal aliens that commit crimes, it is for the most part that straightforward...
I don't want to get into a gun control debate in this Trump thread, you probably know where I stand
What Sanchez did was pretty fucked up. But you're willing to spend around 30k to house, feed, clothe per year. But you oppose all social measures to allow them to make a better life for themselves???
S.J.WHoly fuck I didn't know studies done by Federal Reserve bank of Chicago or the American Immigration council were "weak" and "irrelevant". It's almost like you refuse to accept facts. I'm not linking a CNN article, or a New York Times article. And I've looked at these studies are peer reviewed by 98 people (chicago report) and 16 people reviewed the american immigration council one and I couldn't find a single person disagreeing with them.
"crime amongst illegals is significant", well according to facts that is wrong. And like I've said you can't make the case that it is high among illegals because there isn't a single report out there that links crime to illegals. It's almost like illegals who come to America are determined to make a better life for themselves. Crazy theory I know.
I piss off alot of people on this site. Because everyone has different opinions on shit. But at the end of the day I think most people on this site respect one another because everyone seems to be able argue a point pretty well and see the other person's side. But notice how you're literally the only person arguing about immigration? It's because the facts are in, crime is lower in legal and illegal immigrants. And this isn't an opinion, its a fucking fact. Do you argue with your teacher when she states that 2+2=4 and then you were like well it's my opinion that it's 5 even though you're a dumb cunt and is wrong?
And I'm just going to leave with this, next time you quote me, or nerdy or anyone else on this site. Back up your points with facts. It makes what you're saying a whole lot easier to reason with and see where you're coming from.
S.J.WNo but I asked my math and economic teachers how the world of finance worked and they said it was pretty damn close to wolf of wallstreet. (minus fucking hookers at work)
"wolf on wallstreet", you're so smart dude. Those two brain cells must have worked over time to remember the name of the movie.
Yes your sources are irrelevant in relation to the argument you are trying to make. Analyzing crime by legal immigrants is entirely irrelevant to the analysis of crime by illegal immigrants.
You are weak-minded and are swayed by emotion, hence all the bleeding-heart bullshit.
Welfare use:
"Households headed by immigrants from Central America and Mexico (73 percent)"
"In 2012, 76 percent of households headed by an immigrant who had not graduated high school used one or more welfare programs"
All of your opinions are the typical, brainwashed liberal drivel. Regurgitating verbatim what your Marxist instructors say make you neither educated or intelligent.
"But I asked my Math and Economics teachers!" Thank you for giving away that you are still in high school.
CampeadorYes your sources are irrelevant in relation to the argument you are trying to make. Analyzing crime by legal immigrants is entirely irrelevant to the analysis of crime by illegal immigrants.
You are weak-minded and are swayed by emotion, hence all the bleeding-heart bullshit.
Welfare use:
"Households headed by immigrants from Central America and Mexico (73 percent)"
"In 2012, 76 percent of households headed by an immigrant who had not graduated high school used one or more welfare programs"
All of your opinions are the typical, brainwashed liberal drivel. Regurgitating verbatim what your Marxist instructors say make you neither educated or intelligent.
"But I asked my Math and Economics teachers!" Thank you for giving away that you are still in high school.
