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Climate Change skeptics

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ndye
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Do you guys out there run into a lot of climate change skeptics on a day to day basis? How do you handle that if they engage you?

Is there room for reason, or is it a new religion at this point for some?

Also climate change skeptics out there:

What is it that makes you skeptical?
Jun 2 2015 2:47PM
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deleted5
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if you don't believe in climate change then you refuse to believe in scientific proof and therefore there's no use arguing about it. there's as much proof for climate change as there is for cigarettes causing harm to human.
Jun 2 2015 2:48PM
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corona
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ndyeWhat is it that makes you skeptical?


I'm skeptical because climate is always changing so scientists are jumping on this opportunity to publish studies linking this to humans with whatever straws they can to essentially create a whole field of study on anthropogenic climate change which, because of their fear mongering, means they're able to get funding for further projects which they normally would not get.
Jun 2 2015 4:04PM
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theabortionator
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Oh look, it's this thread again.


Get some new material OP
Jun 2 2015 4:05PM
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ndye
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theabortionatorOh look, it's this thread again.


Get some new material OP


Is there such thing as new material on the internet anymore?
Jun 2 2015 4:15PM
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_____alfredo____
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http://mikehulme.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Hulme-Carbon-Yearbook.pdf

read this book op
Jun 2 2015 4:27PM
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jsnow
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VinnieFI'm skeptical because climate is always changing so scientists are jumping on this opportunity to publish studies linking this to humans with whatever straws they can to essentially create a whole field of study on anthropogenic climate change which, because of their fear mongering, means they're able to get funding for further projects which they normally would not get.


For real fuck those so called scientist and the data they collect about all that nasty shit that goes in the air and water. They are just in it for the money and the million dollar labs. All that pollution we put in the air isnt harming any thing at all.
Jun 2 2015 6:33PM
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theabortionator
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skiforce1For real fuck those so called scientist and the data they collect about all that nasty shit that goes in the air and water. They are just in it for the money and the million dollar labs. All that pollution we put in the air isnt harming any thing at all.


Since when did we care about polluting. Unless it's c02 it doesn't matter. Dump garbage in the streams, cut down the trees, just don't put out any c02 ever. Or buy some carbon condolences and it doesn't matter what the hell you do because you're green enough to through a cool bumper sticker on your SUV.
Jun 2 2015 7:01PM
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HamFaceGirl
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Lol climate change is real
Anyone who thinks it's fake is just in denial.
Sad thing is too, even if we cut all carbon emissions off 100% today, the earth's temp would continue to rise, and not begin to adjust itself for more than 100 years.
So tough shit eh?
Jun 2 2015 7:04PM
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las.
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VinnieFI'm skeptical because climate is always changing so scientists are jumping on this opportunity to publish studies linking this to humans with whatever straws they can to essentially create a whole field of study on anthropogenic climate change which, because of their fear mongering, means they're able to get funding for further projects which they normally would not get.


You think showing unarguable proof of what humans have done to this earth and its atmosphere is fear-mongering?
Jun 2 2015 7:39PM
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lcoopman
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I think that humans contribute a little to the cause. Looking at patterns throughout history we see that the weather temputure go up and down. Carbon dioxide in our atmosphere is also not as big of a deal as many think it is. Water Vaper makes up 90% of our atmosphere.
I'm not saying that exuast fumes or any carbon dioxide is good, I just think that it doesn't have the impact that many people think it does.
Jun 2 2015 7:53PM
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corona
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las.You think showing unarguable proof of what humans have done to this earth and its atmosphere is fear-mongering?


but how is it unarguable proof when it's written by those who have financial interest in climate change being real?
Jun 2 2015 8:02PM
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SFB
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ive never met anyone who actually didnt think human activites were changing the climate.
Jun 2 2015 8:05PM
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deleted5
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VinnieFbut how is it unarguable proof when it's written by those who have financial interest in climate change being real?


yeah I'm sure the massive holes we put in the ozone layer has nothing to do with it. You're really on par right now with people who believe the earth is 6000 years old and people who think Noah's Ark really happened. the polar ice caps are melting and we have done at this point irreversible damage to the environment it doesn't matter White that it's true feel free to take a trip up to Antartica sometime.
Jun 2 2015 8:05PM
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corona
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nocturnalyeah I'm sure the massive holes we put in the ozone layer has nothing to do with it. You're really on par right now with people who believe the earth is 6000 years old and people who think Noah's Ark really happened. the polar ice caps are melting and we have done at this point irreversible damage to the environment it doesn't matter White that it's true feel free to take a trip up to Antartica sometime.


dude, let's not even get into that. the fact that widespread fear mongering of religions has caused the vast majority of people to refute proof of Noah's Ark is really sickening. People are still finding irrefutable proof of it happening every day. read this article for instance.. it just sucks the media are puppets of the fear mongers:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-creationist-discovers-rare-fish-fossils-in-basement-dig-1.3091266
Jun 2 2015 8:10PM
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HamFaceGirl
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Seeing these replies make me cringe
If you're going to be going around saying "oh yeah ya know I really feel carbon dioxide doesn't do much" at least look up how carbon dioxide interacts with the outgoing infrared radiation, and you would realize that carbon dioxide is terrible, and acts like the all the other greenhouse gasses.
The earth is changing at several orders of magnitude faster than it ever has before. If you want to say that is "just natural" then you are an idiot
Jun 2 2015 8:11PM
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las.
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VinnieFbut how is it unarguable proof when it's written by those who have financial interest in climate change being real?


Regardless of whether nearly the entire scientific community supposedly has hidden agendas when it comes to climate science (which is just absurd and completely untrue), opinions and agendas do not and cannot change hard facts. The overwhelming scientific consensus, based on hard, verifiable evidence, is that man-made climate change is real, and it is happening - there is no debate. If you choose to reject that, then you are delusional
Jun 2 2015 9:03PM
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Spagett+
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Jun 2 2015 9:10PM
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Spagett+
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VinnieFthe fact that widespread fear mongering of religions has caused the vast majority of people to refute proof of Noah's Ark is really sickening.



Wait is this a troll? Are you saying you think Noah's arc happened?
Jun 2 2015 9:16PM
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corona
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Spagett+

Wait is this a troll? Are you saying you think Noah's arc happened?


yea I went full retard with that one. I had nibbles up to there.
Jun 2 2015 9:24PM
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JAHpow
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nocturnalthe polar ice caps are melting and we have done at this point irreversible damage to the environment it doesn't matter White that it's true feel free to take a trip up to Antartica sometime.




Global sea ice is literally the same amount since the cooling period that ended in 1979. Yeah it was low for like six years but now it's back to "normal" (going by 1979 standards). Also the amount of ice in 1979 was supposedly more than the amount at the end of the Little Ice Age about 100 years ago.

Also I would advise a trip up to the Arctic rather than Antartica.
Jun 2 2015 9:32PM
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las.
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VinnieFyea I went full retard with that one. I had nibbles up to there.


Jun 2 2015 9:59PM
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.frenchy
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Spagett+


Wow so funni xD

that was sarcasm, in case you were too stupid to realize.
Jun 2 2015 10:27PM
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corona
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las.



I don't blame you for thinking I was being serious. There are some really really dumb people who have figured out how to use the internet.
Jun 2 2015 10:28PM
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Spagett+
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.frenchyWow so funni xD

that was sarcasm, in case you were too stupid to realize.


Frenchy I think you are the dumbest member on NS.


But you are to stupid to realize it.
Jun 2 2015 10:32PM
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Lonely
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I find people who deny it also tell me that evolution is fake and that there is more evidence of Jesus existing than Julius Caesar...
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Jun 2 2015 10:36PM
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theabortionator
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LonelyI find people who deny it also tell me that evolution is fake and that there is more evidence of Jesus existing than Julius Caesar...
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Jesus is the reason for the season
Jun 2 2015 10:39PM
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.frenchy
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Spagett+Frenchy I think you are the dumbest member on NS.


But you are to stupid to realize it.


awh are you mad I didn't like your 9/11 joke? Grow up kid
Jun 2 2015 10:42PM
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Lonely
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Spagett+Frenchy I think you are the dumbest member on NS.


But you are to stupid to realize it.


.frenchyawh are you mad I didn't like your 9/11 joke? Grow up kid


And so it begins
Jun 2 2015 10:43PM
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S.J.W
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.frenchyawh are you mad I didn't like your 9/11 joke? Grow up kid



Jun 2 2015 10:47PM
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.frenchy
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Jun 2 2015 10:52PM
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deleted5
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JAHpow


Global sea ice is literally the same amount since the cooling period that ended in 1979. Yeah it was low for like six years but now it's back to "normal" (going by 1979 standards). Also the amount of ice in 1979 was supposedly more than the amount at the end of the Little Ice Age about 100 years ago.

Also I would advise a trip up to the Arctic rather than Antartica.


Sea ice..........
Jun 2 2015 11:05PM
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JAHpow
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nocturnalSea ice..........


is what makes up the polar ice caps
Jun 2 2015 11:21PM
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.CJ.
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So we go from climate change to the assassination of Bin Laden...
Jun 2 2015 11:24PM
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deleted5
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JAHpowis what makes up the polar ice caps


Great question Antarctic land ice is the ice which has accumulated over thousands of years on the Antarctica landmass itself through snowfall. This land ice therefore is actually stored ocean water that once fell as precipitation. Sea ice in Antarctica is quite different as it is ice which forms in salt water primarily during the winter months. When land ice melts and flows into the oceans global sea levels rise on average; when sea ice melts sea levels do not change measurably.
Jun 2 2015 11:39PM
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theabortionator
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Snowboarders
Gay People
Black People


I'm just trying to think up more topics since this thread seems like a shape shifting shit storm thread of doom.
Jun 2 2015 11:47PM
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Spagett+
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.frenchyawh are you mad I didn't like your 9/11 joke? Grow up kid


Lol the irony. Frenchy telling someone to grow up. Frenchy I know you like coming on NS because you feel like you have some weird importance on here and it gives you a feeling of belonging that you crave. But I think you might be a little too old for internet forums.
Jun 3 2015 12:10AM
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dingus
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Keep it up guys I have to do a speech on this tomorrow, is okay if I quote you guys? Word for word?
Jun 3 2015 12:12AM
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r._ed
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Amongst all the shite in this thread some good points have been made. I think this article is pretty good, you only have to look at the first graph to see that although yes co2 levels have risen and fallen throughout history, they are currently at unseen levels. That is proof in itself that no matter what the effect, there is an effect caused by humans.

http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
Jun 3 2015 12:13AM
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.frenchy
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Spagett+Lol the irony. Frenchy telling someone to grow up. Frenchy I know you like coming on NS because you feel like you have some weird importance on here and it gives you a feeling of belonging that you crave. But I think you might be a little too old for internet forums.


I'm a little old for internet forums? wut m9

1. You obviously don't know how old I am... Hahahahaha

2. That's just a stupid thing to say, what, only kids can go on NS? Lol whatta dipshitttt
Jun 3 2015 12:15AM
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Spagett+
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.frenchyI'm a little old for internet forums? wut m9

1. You obviously don't know how old I am... Hahahahaha

2. That's just a stupid thing to say, what, only kids can go on NS? Lol whatta dipshitttt


Let me rephrase then.

Frenchy you need to grow up
Jun 3 2015 12:20AM
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.Hugo.
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LonelyI find people who deny it also tell me that evolution is fake and that there is more evidence of Jesus existing than Julius Caesar...
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there is evidence that jesus existed. What there isnt evidence of is the stories and if he had "powers".
Jun 3 2015 8:02AM
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Lonely
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.Hugo.there is evidence that jesus existed. What there isnt evidence of is the stories and if he had "powers".


Not arguing that. I'm talking about the dipshits who say climate change isn't real, that the Roman Empire didn't exist, god is real because you can't prove that he's not, vaccines give kids Down's syndrome etc. etc.
Jun 3 2015 9:18AM
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PacificRimJob
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This summer is about to be hyper political. Prepare for dead horses to be beaten with authority.
Jun 3 2015 9:25AM
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ndye
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.Hugo.there is evidence that jesus existed. What there isnt evidence of is the stories and if he had "powers".


Imagine what a pretty good magician in that time could have gotten people to do
Jun 3 2015 10:50AM
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.Hugo.
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ndyeImagine what a pretty good magician in that time could have gotten people to do


He could have actually ruled the whole damn world haha
Jun 3 2015 11:01AM
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deleted5
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.Hugo.there is evidence that jesus existed. What there isnt evidence of is the stories and if he had "powers".


Actually there is zero proof that Jesus existed its all second hand accounts from people saying he lived, and there's an 18 year gap out of his life where he didn't come back until he was crucified. There are many objects that claim to be his but all have been disproven.
Jun 3 2015 11:38AM
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And when will we finally talk about the fact jet fuel can't melt steel beams??
Jun 3 2015 11:52AM
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deleted5
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~~~~~~~~And when will we finally talk about the fact jet fuel can't melt steel beams??


jet fuel can't melt steel beams but it can 100% structurally damage it to make it collapse.
Jun 3 2015 12:07PM
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Lonely
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nocturnalActually there is zero proof that Jesus existed its all second hand accounts from people saying he lived, and there's an 18 year gap out of his life where he didn't come back until he was crucified. There are many objects that claim to be his but all have been disproven.


Uh uh! I saw a movie about a kid that went to heaven and the bible said he was so he is! He was a magical white man with flowing hair and a beard and you can't prove he's not real evolution is fake and so is climate change!!!!
Jun 3 2015 12:10PM
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.Hugo.
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nocturnalActually there is zero proof that Jesus existed its all second hand accounts from people saying he lived, and there's an 18 year gap out of his life where he didn't come back until he was crucified. There are many objects that claim to be his but all have been disproven.


The vast majority if scholars acknowledge that he was a real person. Say whatever you want but he existed. Thats all im saying on this, its way off the thread topic and youre one of the most stubbirn and thick skulled members on here.
LonelyUh uh! I saw a movie about a kid that went to heaven and the bible said he was so he is! He was a magical white man with flowing hair and a beard and you can't prove he's not real evolution is fake and so is climate change!!!!


Im not even religious, like at all. Ive never once been to church and never even so much as picked up a bible.
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