Manspreading - An arrestable offense.

DeebieSkeebiesIf it is a real thing, cops should feel ashamed cuffing/writing tickets to people for this.

Meanwhile, rapes/sexual assault, murder, and other somewhat violent crimes continue to occur because the tall guy communting to work is taking up too space.

To serve and protect!

nocturnalDing ding femanists think this is an issue that's actually worth going after, just like how they trying to ban the word bossy. I never hear them talk about female genital mutilation or small girls kidnapped and sold into sex slavery, no no this is the issue they pick.

-benedettoOn a NYC subway, one simply does not make eye contact or spark up a conversation with a stranger. I didn't write the rules, I just follow them.

nocturnalDing ding femanists think this is an issue that's actually worth going after, just like how they trying to ban the word bossy. I never hear them talk about female genital mutilation or small girls kidnapped and sold into sex slavery, no no this is the issue they pick.

S.J.WThe feminists you see on tumblr or facebook may not get all up in arms over sex slavery, but they are out there.

http://feminism.eserver.org/gender/sex-work/trafficking-of-women.txt

http://www.feminist.org/global/fgm.html

There are better sites other than tumblr to actually learn about feminism. Maybe if you actually learned about the movement and the woman behind it other than what you see on your MRA's facebook site then your opinion would probably change.

nocturnalNot clicking and don't care the main issues you "girls" bring up today, is third trimester abortions and a pay gap that doesn't actually exist.

S.J.Wso you admit that you don't know anything about feminism and all your education comes from posts you see on facebook belittling them? Yeah seems about right

nocturnalactually the opposite I know there's no need for third wave feminism and the only people who support it are morons like you and dingo who don't know what they're talking about.

S.J.Wwhy we still need feminism.
No paid paternity in the united states.

Government bodies who consist mainly of men trying to dictate what a woman can/should do with her body. On average in OECD government are 4 men to 1 woman. And 20 men to one woman with regards to being CEO.

Being assertive and independent makes you a leader if you're a man and if you're a woman it makes you bossy and bitchy.

There is a large bias towards men that encourages them to pursue science and discourage woman to do the same. Which leads them to being under represented in STEM fields.

The fact that a mans razor blade is tax exempt but a woman's tampons and pads aren't?

The fact that society still asks what was she wearing? Is rape culture, the fact that when a rapist is convicted people say "well his life is ruined" instead of "he ruined her life" is rape culture. The fact that one in five woman will be raped in their life time is rape culture. Rape jokes that are seen as "funny" is rape culture.

I could also list the work feminism has done for LGBTQ community which have very little rights. Has any MRA done work for the LGBTQ community?

nocturnalthe fact that you copied and pasted that twice on this site shows you have no idea what you're talking about.

S.J.WI copied and pasted because you're not worth retyping the exact same argument...

nocturnalyou realize you're proving my point the issue you want to tackle is a $0.20 tax on tampons there's real problems going on in the world right now. I've already argued dingo about these other issues but he deleted the threads, and banned me after he lost. I don't feel like having this argument again.

cddlswthsqrrlsHow the fuck does this get turned into a feminist debate? This shit isn't a representation of feminism at all. It's miserable people bitching and complaining about other people instead of simply asking to move over or better yet, getting up and moving themselves.

The most basic description of feminism is that its the movement for equality. If you think anything on tumblr is about equality you're fucking retarded. Those people aren't feminists. They're arrogant women who think they're superior to men.

I feel like 90% of people against feminism are against the "feminism" they see on tumblr and Twitter. I can't stand that shit but if you actually know what feminism stands for, then you probably wouldn't be so against it.

cddlswthsqrrlsHow the fuck does this get turned into a feminist debate? This shit isn't a representation of feminism at all. It's miserable people bitching and complaining about other people instead of simply asking to move over or better yet, getting up and moving themselves.

The most basic description of feminism is that its the movement for equality. If you think anything on tumblr is about equality you're fucking retarded. Those people aren't feminists. They're arrogant women who think they're superior to men.

I feel like 90% of people against feminism are against the "feminism" they see on tumblr and Twitter. I can't stand that shit but if you actually know what feminism stands for, then you probably wouldn't be so against it.

S.J.WLGBTQ community which have very little rights.

cddlswthsqrrlsHow the fuck does this get turned into a feminist debate? This shit isn't a representation of feminism at all. It's miserable people bitching and complaining about other people instead of simply asking to move over or better yet, getting up and moving themselves.

The most basic description of feminism is that its the movement for equality. If you think anything on tumblr is about equality you're fucking retarded. Those people aren't feminists. They're arrogant women who think they're superior to men.

I feel like 90% of people against feminism are against the "feminism" they see on tumblr and Twitter. I can't stand that shit but if you actually know what feminism stands for, then you probably wouldn't be so against it.

nocturnalhttp://www.vice.com/read/swedish-feminists-are-so-bored-theyre-telling-men-how-to-sit-on-the-bus

californiagrownAs a man on a crowded bus/subway why the fuck are you sitting? You should be standing and letting the women and old folks sit. Its common courtesy.

And yes, I have lived in a big city and commuted by public transit to work everyday. People these days suck.

byubound"I feel that 'man-hating' is an honourable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them."-editor of Ms. magazine.
Equality is great, but do not try to say that anti-male feminism is confined to tumblr and twitter.

VinnieFbut dude, giving up your seat for a woman or holding the door for a woman and other acts of kindness are actually considered sexist. true story.

cddlswthsqrrlsThat is seriously so fucked up. You can't even consider that feminism though, can you? Women who think they are superior to men and should be treated as such, that is not feminism. They may identify as feminists but that's really not feminism at all. I don't know what that is tbh but whoever sides with that is delusional and is so out of touch with reality.

Man hating? Wtf. How can you expect men to respect you if you support movements like man hating? Ps men, I love you and I think this is stupid.

VinnieFyou live in Canada. what rights are the LGBT community lacking?

The only group in Canada that have a different set of rights than anyone else are the Natives, who have extra hunting/trapping and land and tax rights etc etc. (maybe some of them aren't considered rights)

Everyone else has the EXACT same rights. There is zero discrimination in the eyes of the law here (except in the social republic of Quebec which likes to stomp on peoples' language and religious rights and freedoms)

nocturnalI have met level-headed feminist before and I know they do exist and I actually do agree with them on a lot of issues. however they are not oppressed because they have to pay 20 cents more for tampons and they get paid less in the workplace because vagina and men say lol pay them less. There are ways to go about fixing these issues for instance giving women the same educational opportunities and workplace experience and free day care for their children so they have the same opportunity to work continuously. however you can't even deny that a huge majority of feminists say the are oppressed because people with penises hate them so they get paid less for equal work. No women don't do equal work because the majority of them can't work continuously if you fix that issue and they're able to work continuously like a man can. They will make the same amount and in a lot of cases more than their male counterpart. however I never hear anybody arguing or trying to change those issues they just want people to throw more money at salaries while changing nothing. Saying waaa im a woman and all men hate me. Is very anti productive to their own cause.

cddlswthsqrrlsYeah I definitely see what your saying and I completely agree. Don't just raise women's pay because they are women, but allowing them to have resources so that they can have an "equal" experience sounds pretty damn good to me.

Any woman who thinks all men hate her and are oppressing her for the sole fact that she's a woman is probably too stupid to have any kind of opinion that matters. No offense but anyone like that is just plain wrong.

cddlswthsqrrlsThat is seriously so fucked up. You can't even consider that feminism though, can you? Women who think they are superior to men and should be treated as such, that is not feminism. They may identify as feminists but that's really not feminism at all. I don't know what that is tbh but whoever sides with that is delusional and is so out of touch with reality.

Man hating? Wtf. How can you expect men to respect you if you support movements like man hating? Ps men, I love you and I think this is stupid.

DeebieSkeebiesIs it still that bad? Like 1970's/80's crack epidemic bad? Never been to NYC, but id imagine its just like any other large city. Rough areas, and rough people you dont look at.

nocturnalI have met level-headed feminist before and I know they do exist and I actually do agree with them on a lot of issues. however they are not oppressed because they have to pay 20 cents more for tampons and they get paid less in the workplace because vagina and men say lol pay them less. There are ways to go about fixing these issues for instance giving women the same educational opportunities and workplace experience and free day care for their children so they have the same opportunity to work continuously. however you can't even deny that a huge majority of feminists say the are oppressed because people with penises hate them so they get paid less for equal work. No women don't do equal work because the majority of them can't work continuously if you fix that issue and they're able to work continuously like a man can. They will make the same amount and in a lot of cases more than their male counterpart. however I never hear anybody arguing or trying to change those issues they just want people to throw more money at salaries while changing nothing. Saying waaa im a woman and all men hate me. Is very anti productive to their own cause.

DeebieSkeebiesIs it still that bad? Like 1970's/80's crack epidemic bad? Never been to NYC, but id imagine its just like any other large city. Rough areas, and rough people you dont look at.

S.J.WWell marriage equality for one, many states in the US don't have marriage equality as well as Australia. Which leads to a bunch of rights that married couples have, like family leave, the next of kin, they can't get family health cover, inheritance, insurance, etc, etc.

And as for trans, just using the bathroom they desire without being looked at weirdly or ticketed. In Dallas a woman was ticketed for using a female restroom at hospital. As well as 20% of trans woman are still in male prisons and there is still debate on what prison a trans person should go to.

As well as rights, it's about how society views the LGBTQ community, look at Caitlyn Jenner. I have seen countless posts about how "he's just confused" or "he needs gods help" or the most common one "He's just doing this for attention". It's like how people use to view the black community as less and sometimes still do, the exact same thing is happening with the LGBTQ community. In the eye of the law, it's incredibly hard to find certain rights that they don't have, but if you look at the wider picture of things you'll see the injustices against them.

S.J.Wthere is still debate on what prison a trans person should go to.

VinnieFYou keep using examples from outside Canada. I specified Canada since that's where we both live. There are absolutely no differences in rights between those who identify as LGBT and those that don't.

S.J.W"I have met level-headed feminist before and I know they do exist and I actually do agree with them on a lot of issues." Guess what, whether you like it not, you just described yourself as a feminist.

nocturnalAt what point did I say I'm for inequality? I said I disagree with a massive amount of people who call themselves feminists and try to fix issues that are an actual issues, as an example your posts. Notice how I just gave an example of how to fix a woman's issue.

nocturnalAt what point did I say I'm for inequality? I said I disagree with a massive amount of people who call themselves feminists and try to fix issues that are an actual issues, as an example your posts. Notice how I just gave an example of how to fix a woman's issue.

S.J.WWait, so you disagree with people who are trying to fix issues? " I disagree with a massive amount of people who call themselves feminists and try to fix issues that are an actual issues".

And you clearly give off the agenda that you're against feminism. When in reality you just described yourself as one. I remember when the majority of my social awareness came from the posts I saw on tumblr...

nocturnalagain trivial issues such as paying 20 cents more for tampons isn't an issue go tackle female genital mutilation.