SANDERS 2016

coolflash8yup, i'll campaign for him like a mofo

Chupa_ChupsIf you can convince me as to why I should vote for him over flocka, then he will have my vote.

DlCKhe already has a dance named after him.

https://youtu.be/-MKhyM1aBrI

S.J.WThe presidential race will come down to Hilary and Bush who are both fucksticks and people will only vote for them because of their names.

cobra_commanderhahahahahahahaha

no

S.J.Wcurious as to why you don't like Bernie?

cobra_commanderHe is a self declared socialist? Nothing like believing in a system that has led hundreds of millions of people to starvation...

Socialism fails, it always has, it always will. It fails to account for greed - a force of nature - and thus it always fails to greed. Capitalism not only acknowledges the existence of greed, it harnesses the power of greed to bring about public good.


Yes, student loan debt is a problem, but Mr Sanders solution would only perpetuate the problem. The availability of government backed student loans is the reason college tuition has skyrocketed. It is the same principle that caused housing prices to skyrocket in the 90s and early 2000s.

among other places I disagree with him.

Mr. Sanders is not an idiot, but he is a fool.

Caleb.EI think your a fool.

China
Denmark
Finland
Netherlands
Canada
Sweden
Norway
Ireland
New Zealand
Belgium



All of these are technically a socialist are are all some of the most successfully countries in the world.....ALL BETTER THAN AMERICA. Please tell me how these countries are all prospering to certain degree and we are failing?

Caleb.EI think your a fool.

China
Denmark
Finland
Netherlands
Canada
Sweden
Norway
Ireland
New Zealand
Belgium



All of these are technically a socialist are are all some of the most successfully countries in the world.....ALL BETTER THAN AMERICA. Please tell me how these countries are all prospering to certain degree and we are failing?

cobra_commanderSo, several hundred million people in China are starving, it has one of the worst human rights records on the planet and is one of the few places in the world where people still disappear, and you bring that up as your first example. Good job fuck head, smack your self in the back of the head. Go hump john lennon's dead body.

Ireland - didn't they just get their ass bailed out? Oh yeah, they did. How is unemployment been? Smack yourself again ya moron.

Canada, and New Zealand are hardly socialist.

The rest hardly make a combined blip on the global economy, and most while left of the United States are still a far cry from "a place for everyone and everyone in their place."

To end: if they are all so fucking fantastic, why is there positive net migration from all of those countries to the United States? Oh, that is right, there is more opportunity here for people who are smart and willing to push themselves.

Smack yo self

S.J.WAnd they have lower migration rates because they have harsher migration laws compared to the US. Socialism won't work in America because of the rich are too selfish and no one wants to pay higher taxes.

cobra_commanderSo, several hundred million people in China are starving, it has one of the worst human rights records on the planet and is one of the few places in the world where people still disappear, and you bring that up as your first example. Good job fuck head, smack your self in the back of the head. Go hump john lennon's dead body.

Ireland - didn't they just get their ass bailed out? Oh yeah, they did. How is unemployment been? Smack yourself again ya moron.

Canada, and New Zealand are hardly socialist.

The rest hardly make a combined blip on the global economy, and most while left of the United States are still a far cry from "a place for everyone and everyone in their place."

To end: if they are all so fucking fantastic, why is there positive net migration from all of those countries to the United States? Oh, that is right, there is more opportunity here for people who are smart and willing to push themselves.

Smack yo self

Caleb.EWell china literally owns the United states, so their doing some thing right there.Please tell me what global economy has to do with any thing?Your only goal in life to get paid and snort coke of hookers tits? nice life man.


Please tell me who would you vote for? Hillary? Who has no political stance that all ready isnt represented in every other democratic or republican candidate or prospect? Paul? who yes i agree with most of his stances but i believe between the two sanders is the pic.

cobra_commanderSocialism fails, it always has, it always will. It fails to account for greed - a force of nature - and thus it always fails to greed. Capitalism not only acknowledges the existence of greed, it harnesses the power of greed to bring about public good.

cobra_commanderYou missed the whole immigration comment. My point was that there are more people from the countries you mentioned moving to the United States than from the United States to those Countries.

US Companies are full of foreign nationals who gave up working in the countries you mentioned to come work in the United States.

Socialism won't work in the United States because it won't work anywhere... Socialism implies government ownership of the market... look it up.

theabortionatorNot sure why this is getting downvoted so quickly but this is very true.

cobra_commanderSo, several hundred million people in China are starving, it has one of the worst human rights records on the planet and is one of the few places in the world where people still disappear, and you bring that up as your first example. Good job fuck head, smack your self in the back of the head. Go hump john lennon's dead body.

Ireland - didn't they just get their ass bailed out? Oh yeah, they did. How is unemployment been? Smack yourself again ya moron.

Canada, and New Zealand are hardly socialist.

The rest hardly make a combined blip on the global economy, and most while left of the United States are still a far cry from "a place for everyone and everyone in their place."

To end: if they are all so fucking fantastic, why is there positive net migration from all of those countries to the United States? Oh, that is right, there is more opportunity here for people who are smart and willing to push themselves.

Smack yo self

S.J.WI know what socialism is, don't condescend me. However over years it's moved from government ownership to more political issues like wealth inequality and the government controlling sectors like health which in reality are better than a free market. And more people move to America than leaving America because of a few reasons. America accepts basically anyone, while other countries like Finland and Denmark don't accept you unless you have an in demand skill. The right loves to throw around socialist like it will be the down fall of America. America spends more of their GDP on health care than Norway does. Bernie won't take away your free market, or turn America into a communist shit hole. No one would allow that, nor he is that extreme as a socialist

cobra_commanderI'm also not limiting myself to those running as Democrats...
YMMV.

cobra_commanderHypothetical question for you:
Where would the current state of national and international healthcare be if the United States had adopted a single payer healthcare system in the 1950s?

Would we have the same level of treatments currently avalible?

Other countries spend very little on healthcare due to paying for almost zero medical advancement. The vast majority of medical advancement in the last 60 odd years have been made under privatized healthcare.

Avalibliity of healthcare would be more universal, but it would likely be at a lower quality than the middle 80% currently have access to.

icculus.He is the only honest candidate who truly cares. I want a president who cares and who wants change. He does not put up with the bullshit you will see other candidates throwing. He has a much bigger chance of winning than you might think. I will be voting for him and you all better get your fucking heads straight and vote for him too. This is our chance to see some positive change in America, you all better not fuck this up.

theabortionatorPretty sure I quoted this but whatever

"Yes, student loan debt is a problem, but Mr Sanders solution would only perpetuate the problem. The availability of government backed student loans is the reason college tuition has skyrocketed. It is the same principle that caused housing prices to skyrocket in the 90s and early 2000s. "


Not sure how i ended up quoting the socialism thing

I need a nap

Caleb.ENeither do i.... i was completely set so vote for Paul when it was just him and Hilary.

FunkadelicYou do realize that Paul and Sanders are polar opposites and would take the country in completely different directions.

Caleb.EAbsolutely I do. I will vote for the person who I believe will do the most for our country in a way that I feel is best. I don't vote along fucking worthless and meaning less party lines.

FunkadelicI'm not at all suggesting you vote along party lines. More just curious what you think makes a candidate best for our country. For me if a candidate doesn't exist that fits my economic criteria I just don't vote. Since, economically speaking, these two are polar opposites I'm just wondering what you think makes them both worth voting for since they would take the country in complete opposite directions, which to me means one may be successful and one would probably fuck everything up. I know for me one is a maybe and the other is a fuck no based purely on his economic stance. I'm still on the fence if I'll end up voting in this election.

Caleb.EHers my two sense i would rather have a president who is capable, and wanting to change the make up of our country. When you look at Hilary the only thing she stands for an promotes is blue line democrats bull shit of legalization and gay marage( not saying the topics are bullshit, but as a main political campaign it is.).... which if any one would look every single presidential candidate supports.... so a vote for Hillary is a vote for might as well be a vote for nothing.

I like Paul's governmental cuts( jot so much his double talk when it comes to a couple branches) and I enjoy his view on states rights.

If you really compare Bernie to Paul there are alot of similarities on what they want to do, but each have a different way of achieving it , some time drasticly different.

FunkadelicThanks that actually clears things up. I hope I didn't come across as too abrasive I was genuinely curious. For me I fall somewhere in between the two of them, probably closer to Paul. But I do respect the nonconformist attitude of Bernie and to a lesser extend Paul. We need more politicians like that whether they're liberal or conservative.

theabortionatorhe has no chance of winning. 2 party life. And a ton of people that might have voted for him will vote for one of the front runners and play the lesser of two evils game.

.complexcobra_commander consistantly making valid and good points, you guys are all getting him good with the -k! that'll teach his greedy, capitalistic conservative ass!!

cobra_commander*sigh* You really are a lost cause aren't you?


Impact on the global economy is critical to continued US success. If it was not for the US economy over the last five years the entire world would still be in a recession.

China does not own the United States in any sense. It owns a lot of the US debt, sweet good for them. various banks own some of my debt, does not mean they own me. I am borrowing from them at rates ranging from 1.5-2.9%, I am making on average 5% on the money I am borrowing from them. Much is true with the US and its debt...

I have not made up my mind who I will vote for for president. I won't make that decision until the primary, or some time closer when all the people who will be running have declared. I'd encourage all Americans to do likewise.
I'm also not limiting myself to those running as Democrats...
YMMV.

cobra_commanderCuba is another shinning example.

Soviet Russia did so well for its people too, especially those that starved to death or got a trip to the gulag.

cobra_commanderHe is a self declared socialist? Nothing like believing in a system that has led hundreds of millions of people to starvation...

Socialism fails, it always has, it always will. It fails to account for greed - a force of nature - and thus it always fails to greed. Capitalism not only acknowledges the existence of greed, it harnesses the power of greed to bring about public good.