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ozzywrongwhistler is not the best mountain in the world.. nor is jackson hole.. these a tiny ski areas in comparison to the big euro resorts..
1)Kranspolyana Russia
2) St Anton Russia
3)Les Arcs France
4) 3 Valleys France
5) Val Disere France
6) Verbier Switzerland
7) Engleburg switzerland
8) Basenko bulgaria
9)whistler BC
10)Revelstoke..
Also lots of underground mountains in Europe ive never skied.. IE.. Algana Italy, La Grave... So much shit out there
Neither does skiable acreage alone stand for superior quality compared to NA resorts nor are Alagna or La Grave 'underground' mountains. Most of the EU mega resorts' terrain is flat and boring and tailored towards beginner to intermediate skiers, partiular the French ones. A place like Jackson Hole easily outstrips most if not all Euro resorts when it comes down to challenging on and off piste runs.
What makes the EU resorts interesting are - aside from Italy - the non-stringent off piste policies however snow conditions are less predictable and often worse, dumps are usually less frequent than for example in North America.
All that said my personal favorite lift served mountain is the Pointe Helbronner above Courmayeur in Italy for it's variety of steep and challenging off piste terrain with up to 7500 ft sustained vertical.
HacksterNeither does skiable acreage alone stand for superior quality compared to NA resorts nor are Alagna or La Grave 'underground' mountains. Most of the EU mega resorts' terrain is flat and boring and tailored towards beginner to intermediate skiers, partiular the French ones. A place like Jackson Hole easily outstrips most if not all Euro resorts when it comes down to challenging on and off piste runs.
What makes the EU resorts interesting are - aside from Italy - the non-stringent off piste policies however snow conditions are less predictable and often worse, dumps are usually less frequent than for example in North America.
All that said my personal favorite lift served mountain is the Pointe Helbronner above Courmayeur in Italy for it's variety of steep and challenging off piste terrain with up to 7500 ft sustained vertical.
If you think most of the Euro mega resorts are flat and boring you must be smoking a lot of crack... Algana is undergrouns.. as for Courmayeur I have never skied there.. next winter..multiple film trips are planned for Italy for sure.
HacksterNeither does skiable acreage alone stand for superior quality compared to NA resorts nor are Alagna or La Grave 'underground' mountains. Most of the EU mega resorts' terrain is flat and boring and tailored towards beginner to intermediate skiers, partiular the French ones. A place like Jackson Hole easily outstrips most if not all Euro resorts when it comes down to challenging on and off piste runs.
What makes the EU resorts interesting are - aside from Italy - the non-stringent off piste policies however snow conditions are less predictable and often worse, dumps are usually less frequent than for example in North America.
All that said my personal favorite lift served mountain is the Pointe Helbronner above Courmayeur in Italy for it's variety of steep and challenging off piste terrain with up to 7500 ft sustained vertical.
BTW if you think Jackson hole.. is better than a resort like Verbier.. you are retarded..
Les Arcs is 15 x the size of Jackson.. so is the 3 valleys.. so is Verbier.. So is Zinal, so is Engleburg ,so is Gsstad so is St Anton.. Ect. Ect. the amount of terrain accessible of these Euro mega resorts is restarted.. Come to Val Torrens on a pow day and I will show you what I am talking about..
ozzywrongBTW if you think Jackson hole.. is better than a resort like Verbier.. you are retarded..
Les Arcs is 15 x the size of Jackson.. so is the 3 valleys.. so is Verbier.. So is Zinal, so is Engleburg ,so is Gsstad so is St Anton.. Ect. Ect. the amount of terrain accessible of these Euro mega resorts is restarted.. Come to Val Torrens on a pow day and I will show you what I am talking about..
or three days after a pow day, cus there's about a million stashes.
ozzywrongIf you think most of the Euro mega resorts are flat and boring you must be smoking a lot of crack... Algana is undergrouns.. as for Courmayeur I have never skied there.. next winter..multiple film trips are planned for Italy for sure.
Please sharpen your reading capabilities or quit posting while stoned. MOST of their - lift system supported - terrain is definitely tailored towards intermediates no matter what stories you try to make up. I got to ski pretty much all in the meantime, and most of them more than just once.
As far as Alagna goes the times the Monte Rosa area was a kept secret are LONG gone. Some small micro resorts particulary in Austria and Switzerland with hidden terrain/stashed rather fit the bill you try to describe.
To clarify: we are not talking AT only access here.
ozzywrongBTW if you think Jackson hole.. is better than a resort like Verbier.. you are retarded..
Les Arcs is 15 x the size of Jackson.. so is the 3 valleys.. so is Verbier.. So is Zinal, so is Engleburg ,so is Gsstad so is St Anton.. Ect. Ect. the amount of terrain accessible of these Euro mega resorts is restarted.. Come to Val Torrens on a pow day and I will show you what I am talking about..
Why the hate? Sorry you hate Jackson hole so much but it's a pretty sick place. Great vibes, great terrain, and some serious rippers.
Size really isnt everything. If we're talking places with 200 vertical then maybe not but when you're comparing bigger spots it really isn't. 4,100 vertical, and some epic in bounds and backcountry terrain is nothing to hate on imo.
Maybe you're right, maybe you aren't but regardless there's no need to hate on some of the best places out there for stupid reasons. You sir are jaded.
ozzywrongwhistler is not the best mountain in the world.. nor is jackson hole.. these a tiny ski areas in comparison to the big euro resorts..
1)Kranspolyana Russia
2) St Anton Russia
3)Les Arcs France
4) 3 Valleys France
5) Val Disere France
6) Verbier Switzerland
7) Engleburg switzerland
8) Basenko bulgaria
9)whistler BC
10)Revelstoke..
Also lots of underground mountains in Europe ive never skied.. IE.. Algana Italy, La Grave... So much shit out there
Yep, Euro resorts can be huge. I ride mostly at 3valleys and it's literally 8 resorts all super well connected, with as much sick off piste as there are pistes.
La grave is total fire when it comes to bc. Not huge in a european point of view though.
Verbier is crazy too, plus the majority of skiers there off peak season are really good.
Id go with 3valleys because i know it best, with it's mere 200 lifts and 750km of piste, yet I can go to every single resort in one day. Biggest skiable domain on earth, with every type of skiing you can imagine, 4 big parks, probably the best place to ski by quite a bit.
ozzywrongIf you think most of the Euro mega resorts are flat and boring you must be smoking a lot of crack... Algana is undergrouns.. as for Courmayeur I have never skied there.. next winter..multiple film trips are planned for Italy for sure.
i have been skiing in courmayeur my whole life. this year i tried jackson hole and only very few runs were as good as the variety you can find in italy
Your personal favorite mountain is your personal favorite mountain. Despite me living in the Alps and skiing some seriously insane mountains where one run can take 2 hours / 15km to finish, my personal favorite is still back home: Smuggler's Notch. I have too many experiences there that made me love skiing that no mountain, no matter how huge or expansive, will ever compete with.
On the other hand, I have to give it to Euroland for offering a completely insanely huge skiing experience. There simply is nothing like it back home in North America. Whistler comes very close but, Europe is just on another level and if anyone here ever has the chance to ski in the Alps they really should fully embrace the opportunity.
ozzywrongwhistler is not the best mountain in the world.. nor is jackson hole.. these a tiny ski areas in comparison to the big euro resorts..
1)Kranspolyana Russia
2) St Anton Russia
3)Les Arcs France
4) 3 Valleys France
5) Val Disere France
6) Verbier Switzerland
7) Engleburg switzerland
8) Basenko bulgaria
9)whistler BC
10)Revelstoke..
Also lots of underground mountains in Europe ive never skied.. IE.. Algana Italy, La Grave... So much shit out there
Id go with 3valleys because i know it best, with it's mere 200 lifts and 750km of piste, yet I can go to every single resort in one day. Biggest skiable domain on earth, with every type of skiing you can imagine, 4 big parks, probably the best place to ski by quite a bit.[/QUOTE]
Why do they call 3valleys the biggest on earth, when Dolmiti Superski in Italya is like twice the size, with 450 lifts and 1200km of piste.
Lord_ByronAnyone who thinks any NA skiing is the best in the world is very very wrong.
Ever heard of Alaska? I think some pros may disagree with your statement...
Also who are you to say what is the best in the world? Much of Europe is above treeline. If I enjoy skiing trees the most then there are certainly places in NA that compete and outshine Europe
rossiskier93Ever heard of Alaska? I think some pros may disagree with your statement...
Also who are you to say what is the best in the world? Much of Europe is above treeline. If I enjoy skiing trees the most then there are certainly places in NA that compete and outshine Europe
first of all, its lift serviced terrain. If you want to just go off of any terrain including heli access, then BC or AK is up there. Probably not better than what you can find in Sochi, or Kamchatka, or Japan.
And trees are also not even close. On top of the French, Swiss and Italian, high alpine super ski areas there are a shit ton of treed resorsts. The Pyrenees and Austria offer better lift accessed tree skiing by acreage, snowfall, and vertical.
