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SkierFromOhio
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I live in Ohio and my hill closed April 1st. I noticed on IG that park city is closing this weekend but they just got new snow. Why do resorts out west close when they have a decent amount of snow?
Apr 15 2015 6:57PM
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roddy116
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because park city I'm guessing costs like 200 times as much per day as a resort in ohio. and if there is crappy snow out west people bitch about it and go mountain biking so theres no point in having a giant money pit for only the hardest of the hadcore skiers.
Apr 15 2015 7:04PM
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airplaneface
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What he said, also OP what part of Ohio are you from?
Apr 15 2015 7:07PM
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SkierFromOhio
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Left_BrothersWhat he said, also OP what part of Ohio are you from?


I ski BMBW
Apr 15 2015 7:10PM
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eheath
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You're high AF if you think park city has a decent amount of snow haha. Until today, it was ribbons and the areas between the ribbons of snow are 5 inches to dirt. We don't have any snow, we're lucky they stayed open this long, there are like 4 of 18 lifts open and like 10 runs, were fucked.
Apr 15 2015 7:17PM
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SkierFromOhio
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eheathYou're high AF if you think park city has a decent amount of snow haha. Until today, it was ribbons and the areas between the ribbons of snow are 5 inches to dirt. We don't have any snow, we're lucky they stayed open this long, there are like 4 of 18 lifts open and like 10 runs, were fucked.

A decent amount is a flexible term. Especially where you live. To people who live out west it might not be a lot but snow is snow. At least here in Ohio hills stay open basically until there is nothing
Apr 15 2015 7:27PM
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eheath
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nico.ostranderA decent amount is a flexible term. Especially where you live. To people who live out west it might not be a lot but snow is snow. At least here in Ohio hills stay open basically until there is nothing


Well, most resorts on the west close with skiable conditions.

Resorts don't really make money after march, they stay open for the locals. Resorts like Snowbird stay open until you can't ski anymore and they've stayed open until july. Snowbird is the only resort in utah to do this and they CAN do it because they own the land their resort is located on. Most of these resorts in the cottonwoods operate on national forest, so they have permits until a certain time.

Park city could stay open longer, but they won't basically because they don't give a shit. Maybe vail will try to compete with snowbird and do an abasin type resort that opens early and closes late, they own all of the land pc operates on so its definitely doable...
Apr 15 2015 7:35PM
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FBGM
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eheathYou're high AF if you think park city has a decent amount of snow haha. Until today, it was ribbons and the areas between the ribbons of snow are 5 inches to dirt. We don't have any snow, we're lucky they stayed open this long, there are like 4 of 18 lifts open and like 10 runs, were fucked.


^^^ it's been a fucking slushfest for weeks now, today was dope we got a good amount of snow but it'll be gone tomorrow. nothing is open anyway
Apr 15 2015 7:38PM
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SkierFromOhio
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eheathWell, most resorts on the west close with skiable conditions.

Resorts don't really make money after march, they stay open for the locals. Resorts like Snowbird stay open until you can't ski anymore and they've stayed open until july. Snowbird is the only resort in utah to do this and they CAN do it because they own the land their resort is located on. Most of these resorts in the cottonwoods operate on national forest, so they have permits until a certain time.

Park city could stay open longer, but they won't basically because they don't give a shit. Maybe vail will try to compete with snowbird and do an abasin type resort that opens early and closes late, they own all of the land pc operates on so its definitely doable...

I see your point on the resorts not making money. I fell like if resorts hold more events in the late season it will bring in more revenue. Also if they close part of the mountain there would be less to run.
Apr 15 2015 7:39PM
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eheath
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nico.ostranderI see your point on the resorts not making money. I fell like if resorts hold more events in the late season it will bring in more revenue. Also if they close part of the mountain there would be less to run.


Yeah, no one wants to ski in april except for pass holders, thats just the facts of the industry. And closing half the lifts saves money but not nearly enough to justify staying open as long as they can, shit is expensive man.
Apr 15 2015 7:41PM
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VD.
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You've got to remember mountain resorts make most of their profits from amenities not from lift tickets, and the kind of people who go skiing in April aren't going to be making full use of said overpriced amenities.
Apr 15 2015 8:41PM
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WI_skier
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This happens in the midwest as well, many of the mountains close eve when they have a pretty decent amount of snow because they aren't getting enough profit. However, some mountains like trollhaugen or granite peak stay open much later because they get a lot of people coming.
Apr 15 2015 10:05PM
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Nikolaus
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in colorado the forest service sometimes forces them to close early, when they could be staying open weeks later. a basin's on private land which is why they can stay open so late.
Apr 15 2015 10:20PM
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Klaus
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even with lots of snow towards the end of the season (not this year) people just stop buying day passes and stop going
Apr 15 2015 11:20PM
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Ian_Fitz
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$$$ thats why. if your having ski withdrawal come camp out at tyrol basin for the spring jam this weekend. its only probably a 6 hour car ride.
Apr 15 2015 11:55PM
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jd_1260
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The mountain I ski at, whitewater in bc, had almost the most amount of snow they had all season when they closed. They just lose money after the tourists are gone. No money made off season passes because if you close earlier you don't have to pay money back or anything. Still great hiking though!
Apr 16 2015 12:49AM
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J_Berg
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Just weighing in. I was in pc for spring break in the end of March and unless you were skiing pArk it was not worth your time. Jupiter was open for 10 minutes and that was about the best it got. Groomers were shit and you tweaked about rocks/dirt n such. Up in the canyons was still good. I had a Hella good day at Alta (check my video) and Brighton as well. But the spring crowd is mostly locals. And as the tourists leaves so does t be big money. Everyone skiing this late in the season is on a season pass
Apr 16 2015 11:13AM
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MLJ
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iskiPC1997Just weighing in. I was in pc for spring break in the end of March and unless you were skiing pArk it was not worth your time. Jupiter was open for 10 minutes and that was about the best it got. Groomers were shit and you tweaked about rocks/dirt n such. Up in the canyons was still good. I had a Hella good day at Alta (check my video) and Brighton as well. But the spring crowd is mostly locals. And as the tourists leaves so does t be big money. Everyone skiing this late in the season is on a season pass


Dude, the point is that this is some of the best time to get in hot laps through the park. Personally, its probably my favourite time to ski in general, because the snow pack is much more stable up high for touring and the slush is really soft to fall on in the park. Its a perfect combo, and up high there is usually more than enough snow around now still. PS my home mountain closes in a couple weeks still (end of april) but I'm already back home :'(
Apr 16 2015 12:57PM
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J_Berg
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MLJDude, the point is that this is some of the best time to get in hot laps through the park. Personally, its probably my favourite time to ski in general, because the snow pack is much more stable up high for touring and the slush is really soft to fall on in the park. Its a perfect combo, and up high there is usually more than enough snow around now still. PS my home mountain closes in a couple weeks still (end of april) but I'm already back home :'(


Oh dude I know! That's all I did at pc and loved it. Slarving around thru t be park and dickin around in the slushy pipe is the best. I'm just saying if you're looking for anything more save your money!
Apr 16 2015 6:52PM
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LightSyde
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My hill closed mid March. #MichiganProbz
Apr 16 2015 7:00PM
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TrickyDick470
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Me in a few weeks

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Apr 16 2015 10:17PM
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The.Fish
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Nico, i ski bmbw. I dont even know why they stayed open after the 15th of march. I realize that they opened up on new years day but there was nobody there on winter carnival day on the 21st. Its all about business. I dont think party in the park will even happen this year. When peak resorts own us, the resort goes from caring about the athletes to caring about the $$$. Josh boyd is a douche. I bet next year we will open back up as early as possible because Josh won't want his daddy to fire him.
Apr 17 2015 1:56PM
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Brule.
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Mount Jore closes Sunday. :(
Apr 17 2015 5:22PM
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RICK_ROSS
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we just got dumped on in colorado, keystone closed last weekend, breck and copper close this weekend, winter park next weekend, loveland sometime in may, and abay in june.
Apr 17 2015 5:41PM
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SFBv420.0
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eheathPark city could stay open longer, but they won't basically because they don't give a shit. Maybe vail will try to compete with snowbird and do an abasin type resort that opens early and closes late, they own all of the land pc operates on so its definitely doable...


pcmr is sittinging on 2' of base
5 lifts
and has 15 of 100 sum runs open
they couldn't stay open if they wanted
1st post then
smoke crack
Apr 17 2015 7:07PM
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eheath
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eheathYou're high AF if you think park city has a decent amount of snow haha. Until today, it was ribbons and the areas between the ribbons of snow are 5 inches to dirt. We don't have any snow, we're lucky they stayed open this long, there are like 4 of 18 lifts open and like 10 runs, were fucked.


SFBv420.0pcmr is sittinging on 2' of base
5 lifts
and has 15 of 100 sum runs open
they couldn't stay open if they wanted
1st post then
smoke crack


I could say the same thing to you, you didn't read my first post :)

The post you quote I was speaking generally, like past years they could've stayed open longer, but I said in that first post, were lucky we made it to closing day this year.
Apr 17 2015 7:15PM
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RICK_ROSS
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eheathI could say the same thing to you, you didn't read my first post :)

The post you quote I was speaking generally, like past years they could've stayed open longer, but I said in that first post, were lucky we made it to closing day this year.


i dont know how utah operates, but its my understanding that a bay can open so early and stay open so late because X amount of their terrane is owned by vail, and not the government.
Apr 17 2015 7:17PM
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GayWolf420
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I think some of it is a financial decision. Its not that wise to keep the lifts spinning with minimal terrain just so locals go can make a few runs. No one is flying out here anymore to ski/spend money in the hotels, lodges, shops, etc. Not to mention, staffing is an issue too. theres no reason to have a full crew this late in the year when the crowds are light, so there aren't that many people there to run the lifts anymore for the season.



I could be talking out my ass, but there really isn't that much money to be made this late in the year. No one is flying out here to drop thousands to ski april slush anymore, so its just a lot more wise to pull the plug after a certain date and get ready for summer operations.
Apr 17 2015 8:14PM
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danbrown
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PC closing day is the best day of the year!!!
Apr 17 2015 8:44PM
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JohnLocke
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Sunday River and sugarloaf should be open well into May.
Apr 18 2015 9:50AM
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