Reclaim Australia

while i dont completely agree with these rallies, im not completely against them. people come to our country, get upset at the way we're doing things and cry racism when we dont want them to change it. shariah law is completely fucking barbaric

also those two photos i posted were taken from protests in sydney maybe last year or the year before.

OCCUPY ULURU! (and piss off all the aborigines while you're at it)

Australia couldn't be farther away from me. Out of sight: out of mind.

who cares? just a bunch of criminals who live there anyways

lol OP shut the fuck up, Australians do 1 thing right and you get all butt hurt about it?

ooook

.frenchylol OP shut the fuck up, Australians do 1 thing right and you get all butt hurt about it?

ooook

knew I'd see your backwards small minded racist name here.

Here is why the Reclaim Australia rallies are complete bullshit. The rallies were organised by the National Republican Guard. A heavily racist right wing, neo nazi political party whose ideologies are on par with Hitler and other fascist dictators. Sherman Burges who calls himself "the Great Australian Patriot" has shared views how he would like to gas all Muslims and aboriginal people are scum and if he could he would kill all aboriginals. You know aboriginals, the true owners of Australia?

The fear of a Muslim take over and sharia law are completely irrational. Muslims take up two percent of the Australian population. There are more Buddhists in Australia than Muslims. Muslims who are radicalized make up about 0.00001 % of the population. They have no meaningful political influence. The WCA has a larger influence and is more likely to take over Australia than Muslims are. All the fear mongering among Muslim is propaganda imposed by Isis and the Martin Siege.

The uneducated racists have created myths to dehumanize Muslims. Like that they cut of the clitoris of young girls. When in reality that only happens in North Africa. It is a North African problem, not a Muslim problem. And the problem only occurred after the scramble for Africa.

You probably also think all Muslims support Isis and other terror attacks. That is also complete bullshit. No Muslim mosque was willing to give Martin Place terrorist a proper Muslim burial.

Reclaim Australia is worried about introducing Sharia Law. Which is completely impossible. Australia is a secular country and no religious law will adequately influence either the Senate or the House of reps.

The people who are also attending the Reclaim Australia rallies also support the foreclosure of Aboriginal communities. Aboriginals are becoming refuges in their country. So Reclaim Australia isn't about Reclaiming Australia, it's about White Australia and racists being unable to accept multiculturalism as a part of way of life within Australia.

UglyboyReclaim Australia is worried about introducing Sharia Law. Which is completely impossible. Australia is a secular country and no religious law will adequately influence either the Senate or the House of reps.

You do realize that when people talk about fearing sharia law they don't mean shariah practices penetrating their local governments. They're talking about a band of deranged extremists running through the streets chopping off people's heads regardless of the current status of the country or religious laws in practice.
I'm not disagreeing with your whole argument, I'm just stating that it seems like you have a bit of an oversimplified view of why people are freaked out by even a small population of extremists.
Even if they're a small group operating within a rather large society, it is still scary for people to be unsure if they're going to be the target of a demonstration to show that we should "fear the prophet."

Once again, not really arguing any sort of opinion here, just reflecting on why people get scared when they notice even a small movement, like you said, even 0.000001% or whatever.

Uglyboyknew I'd see your backwards small minded racist name here.

Here is why the Reclaim Australia rallies are complete bullshit. The rallies were organised by the National Republican Guard. A heavily racist right wing, neo nazi political party whose ideologies are on par with Hitler and other fascist dictators. Sherman Burges who calls himself "the Great Australian Patriot" has shared views how he would like to gas all Muslims and aboriginal people are scum and if he could he would kill all aboriginals. You know aboriginals, the true owners of Australia?

The fear of a Muslim take over and sharia law are completely irrational. Muslims take up two percent of the Australian population. There are more Buddhists in Australia than Muslims. Muslims who are radicalized make up about 0.00001 % of the population. They have no meaningful political influence. The WCA has a larger influence and is more likely to take over Australia than Muslims are. All the fear mongering among Muslim is propaganda imposed by Isis and the Martin Siege.

The uneducated racists have created myths to dehumanize Muslims. Like that they cut of the clitoris of young girls. When in reality that only happens in North Africa. It is a North African problem, not a Muslim problem. And the problem only occurred after the scramble for Africa.

You probably also think all Muslims support Isis and other terror attacks. That is also complete bullshit. No Muslim mosque was willing to give Martin Place terrorist a proper Muslim burial.

Reclaim Australia is worried about introducing Sharia Law. Which is completely impossible. Australia is a secular country and no religious law will adequately influence either the Senate or the House of reps.

The people who are also attending the Reclaim Australia rallies also support the foreclosure of Aboriginal communities. Aboriginals are becoming refuges in their country. So Reclaim Australia isn't about Reclaiming Australia, it's about White Australia and racists being unable to accept multiculturalism as a part of way of life within Australia.

too long didnt read lol fuck you

islam is the religion of peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

funk~You do realize that when people talk about fearing sharia law they don't mean shariah practices penetrating their local governments. They're talking about a band of deranged extremists running through the streets chopping off people's heads regardless of the current status of the country or religious laws in practice.
I'm not disagreeing with your whole argument, I'm just stating that it seems like you have a bit of an oversimplified view of why people are freaked out by even a small population of extremists.
Even if they're a small group operating within a rather large society, it is still scary for people to be unsure if they're going to be the target of a demonstration to show that we should "fear the prophet."

Once again, not really arguing any sort of opinion here, just reflecting on why people get scared when they notice even a small movement, like you said, even 0.000001% or whatever.

Sharia law is the law and legal system of Islam. Those who wish to use sharia law to justify beheadings aren't Muslim. Just like the KKK wasn't Christian. They're nit picking passages to justify their extremist intentions.

.frenchytoo long didnt read lol fuck you

islam is the religion of peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Classic frenchy. Can't argue any point so just patronizes instead. You're the best kind of human being aren't you.

fuck off we're full.

.frenchytoo long didnt read lol fuck you

islam is the religion of peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You know there was a time where Christians killed without mercy as well, it was the Crusades, maybe you heard of them. Every major religion has blood on its hands, stop being ignorant. oh wait...thats not possible for you.

op

.frenchytoo long didnt read lol fuck you

islam is the religion of peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you're a bogan

But according to you op, Australia and its people are better than America and Canada?

cant we all agree that there are a lot of shitty people out there and we could really use a an extremely virulent pandemic right about now?

I love getting quoted with butt hurt responses :)))


thats what makes me log in every day :)))

.frenchyI love getting quoted with butt hurt responses :)))


thats what makes me log in every day :)))

where's the butthurt? I dont see it!

It sounds more like you log on because you enjoy being a toilet, you know, always constantly getting shit on.

Granite_Statewhere's the butthurt? I dont see it!

It sounds more like you log on because you enjoy being a toilet, you know, always constantly getting shit on.

i believe there is butthurt in this here post.

californiagrowni believe there is butthurt in this here post.

Is there? I still can't see it. I shit on frenchy in every thread, nothing new here buddy.

Granite_StateIs there? I still can't see it. I shit on frenchy in every thread, nothing new here buddy.

yea because ur a dick!!! :^(

man OP australia which is way better and more proggressive than other countries accoding to you finally seems to be taking a step in the right direction.

Granite_StateIs there? I still can't see it. I shit on frenchy in every thread, nothing new here buddy.

Do you take medication for that chronic pain in your butt? acupuncture? TM on a rubber doughnut? Its gotta be tough dealing with that kinda hurt on a daily basis.

sorry mate but radical muslims are 0.00000001%

there are millions around the world. anyone who wants shariah law is radical and a danger to society. so thats all of saudi arabia for starters. did you know theyve beheaded more people this year than all of isis? they beheaded someone for being a witch..

France. A new, widely-covered poll shows that a full 16% of French people have positive attitudes toward ISIS. That includes 27% of French between the ages of 18-24. Anne-Elizabeth Moutet of Newsweek wrote, "This is the ideology of young French Muslims from immigrant backgrounds...these are the same people who torch synagogues."
Britain. In 2006, a poll for the Sunday Telegraph found that 40% of British Muslims wanted shariah law in the United Kingdom, and that 20% backed the 7/7 bombers. Another poll from that year showed that 45% of British Muslims said that 9/11 was an American/Israeli conspiracy; that poll showed that one-quarter of British Muslims believed that the 7/7 bombings were justified.

Palestinian Areas. A poll in 2011 showed that 32% of Palestinians supported the brutal murder of five Israeli family members, including a three-month-old baby. In 2009, a poll showed that 78% of Palestinians had positive or mixed feelings about Osama Bin Laden. A 2013 poll showed 40% of Palestinians supporting suicide bombings and attacks against civilians. 89% favored sharia law. Currently, 89% of Palestinians support terror attacks on Israel.

Pakistan. After the killing of Osama Bin Laden, the Gilani Foundation did a poll of Pakistanis and found that 51% of them grieved for the terrorist mastermind, with 44% of them stating that he was a martyr. In 2009, 26% of Pakistanis approved of attacks on US troops in Iraq. That number was 29% for troops in Afghanistan. Overall, 76% of Pakistanis wanted strict shariah law in every Islamic country.

Morocco. A 2009 poll showed that 68% of Moroccans approved of terrorist attacks on US troops in Iraq; 61% backed attacks on American troops in Afghanistan as of 2006. 76% said they wanted strict sharia law in every Islamic country.

Jordan. 72% of Jordanians backed terror attacks against US troops in Iraq as of 2009. In 2010, the terrorist group Hezbollah had a 55% approval rating; Hamas had a 60% approval rating.

Indonesia: In 2009, a poll demonstrated that 26% of Indonesians approved of attacks on US troops in Iraq; 22% backed attacks on American troops in Afghanistan. 65% said they agreed with Al Qaeda on pushing US troops out of the Middle East. 49% said they supported strict sharia law in every Islamic country. 70% of Indonesians blamed 9/11 on the United States, Israel, someone else, or didn't know. Just 30% said Al Qaeda was responsible.

Egypt. As of 2009, 87% of Egyptians said they agreed with the goals of Al Qaeda in forcing the US to withdraw forces from the Middle East. 65% said they wanted strict sharia law in every Islamic country. As of that same date, 69% of Egyptians said they had either positive or mixed feelings about Osama Bin Laden. In 2010, 95% of Egyptians said it was good that Islam is playing a major role in politics.

United States. A 2013 poll from Pew showed that 13% of American Muslims said that violence against civilians is often, sometimes or rarely justified to defend Islam. A 2011 poll from Pew showed that 21 percent of Muslims are concerned about extremism among Muslim Americans. 19 percent of American Muslims as of 2011 said they were either favorable toward Al Qaeda or didn't know.

In short, tens of millions of Muslims all over the world sympathize with the goals or tactics of terrorist groups – or both. That support is stronger outside the West, but it is present even in the West. Islamist extremism is not a passing or fading phenomenon – it is shockingly consistent over time. And the West's attempts to brush off the ideology of fanaticism has been an overwhelming failure.

californiagrownDo you take medication for that chronic pain in your butt? acupuncture? TM on a rubber doughnut? Its gotta be tough dealing with that kinda hurt on a daily basis.

The only pain in my ass is when your mom decides to give me a surprise prostate exam during sex. She's a real wild one Ill tell ya, but im sure you already knew that.

Granite_StateThe only pain in my ass is when your mom decides to give me a surprise prostate exam during sex. She's a real wild one Ill tell ya, but im sure you already knew that.

Youre resorting to tired "yo momma" jokes now? Common man! At least be witty with your shit talking. Get on my level!

californiagrownYoure resorting to tired "yo momma" jokes now? Common man! At least be witty with your shit talking. Get on my level!

I mean I thought it was pretty clever. Could have always said "yo girl". Plus yo mamma jokes are a classic. Im not getting enough credit here

pow_pow~sorry mate but radical muslims are 0.00000001%

arent*

pow_pow~arent*

sources or it didnt happen.

californiagrownsources or it didnt happen.

show me the sources for this 0.000001% claim.

No,

See, you need to prove your point. i have no point. I am open to ideas and arguments. You are the one trying to convince me.



Otherwise i could argue that 97% of aliens dont believe in humans, and you would have no proof to say otherwise. But i guess you like that logic, huh?

I feel like this kind of shit is bullshit a lot of the time. Just trying to get people all riled up. Honestly wouldn't be surprised if a good chunk of it is staged.

Sure, there are plenty of people that take religion far too seriously, but Idk with some of this stuff.

Media hype city.

Just tired of how I'm supposed to be terrified of these people or those people.

I like Australia

Halal meat is less clean, and causes more animal suffering. So fuck that, if you want to eat halal, then be a vegetarian.

californiagrownNo,

See, you need to prove your point. i have no point. I am open to ideas and arguments. You are the one trying to convince me.



Otherwise i could argue that 97% of aliens dont believe in humans, and you would have no proof to say otherwise. But i guess you like that logic, huh?

i responded to the initial claim of 0.00001%

the onus of proof is on the first person to claim something. they have to source what they say. like you said.

pow_pow~i responded to the initial claim of 0.00001%

the onus of proof is on the first person to claim something. they have to source what they say. like you said.

Actually you'll find the onus of proof is on the one who makes the most assumptions (Occam's razor). This was you, since until you supply us sources for all your 'polls' they are nothing short of fictitious, so to believe you we must assume that you are correct.

That's a lot of assuming.

*DUMBCAN*Actually you'll find the onus of proof is on the one who makes the most assumptions (Occam's razor). This was you, since until you supply us sources for all your 'polls' they are nothing short of fictitious, so to believe you we must assume that you are correct.

That's a lot of assuming.

okay then mate here are the sources for every single sentence i made.

france - http://www.newsweek.com/16-french-citizens-support-isis-poll-finds-266795

britain - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/many-british-muslims-put-islam-first/

palestine - http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4053251,00.html

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf

http://www.pewforum.org/files/2013/04/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/poll-89-percent-of-palestinians-support-terror-attacks-on-israel/

pakistan - http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf

morrocco - http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf

jordan - http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf

http://www.pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/

indonesia - http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf

egypt - http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf

usa - http://www.pewforum.org/files/2013/04/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf

http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/muslim-americans-no-signs-of-growth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/


you happy now mate?

I don't know about you, but I wouldn't trust any fucking numbers coming out of the muslim world today... I'm critical enough of numbers coming from massively secular and western nations...


That said, Islam isn't the problem. Colonization and it's after-effects are far more of the issue here. People will always use religion as a justification to control devout people and do shitty things to those who disobey...

I mean, just look at the bullshit that we encounter with jagaloon radical christians who want to kill or discriminate against Gay people, or Buddhist sects who think women shouldn't be able to work unless that money goes to their husband... or south american Catholic nations who have banned all forms of Abortion and severely limited contraception in the name of religion and control.. (fuck you Chile..)


Fuck, just look at the Jonestown koolaid mass-suicide shitfest. One toxic thing lead to an actually physically toxic thing... Just like how Toxic ideas amongst some followers of islam leads to death by lead or conventional explosive.

"Islam isn't the problem, religion is the problem."

-Wayne Gretzky

erikK"Islam isn't the problem, religion is the problem."

-Wayne Gretzky

you're not funny.

UglyboySharia law is the law and legal system of Islam. Those who wish to use sharia law to justify beheadings aren't Muslim. Just like the KKK wasn't Christian. They're nit picking passages to justify their extremist intentions.

saudi arabia is under shariah law, theyve beheaded more people this year than isis has ever. im pretty sure they beheaded someone this year for witchcraft.

You know what is worse? The Socialists, the greatest advocates of the right to Free Speech are trying to shut off the speech of those with opposing views. They took what was intended to be a peaceful protest into a violent brawl which ended in some of the socialists burning the Australian Flag. Granted it is an inflammatory topic and they weren't the only ones being violent, they still knowingly staged the 'anti racism protest' to insight violence.

I'm not saying I agree wither either side, although I do believe Sharia Law if implemented in Australia would be a bad thing. But I find it rather hypocritical for the Socialist Alternatives to shut down the speech of others.

B.AussieYou know what is worse? The Socialists, the greatest advocates of the right to Free Speech are trying to shut off the speech of those with opposing views. They took what was intended to be a peaceful protest into a violent brawl which ended in some of the socialists burning the Australian Flag. Granted it is an inflammatory topic and they weren't the only ones being violent, they still knowingly staged the 'anti racism protest' to insight violence.

I'm not saying I agree wither either side, although I do believe Sharia Law if implemented in Australia would be a bad thing. But I find it rather hypocritical for the Socialist Alternatives to shut down the speech of others.

well put. very stupid of police to allow them to be that close.

it will be interesting to see where australia is in the next 50 years. with many muslim migrants coming to our shores from the problems in the middle east coupled with muslim birth rates that are significantly higher than anglo saxon australians.

so within the next 50-100 years it is very likely we will see an islamic political party.

.frenchytoo long didnt read lol fuck you

islam is the religion of peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hilarious seeing people who claim they are religious shit on other religions for being silly. Look in the mirror and at the history of your claimed team. LMFAO.

erikK"Islam isn't the problem, religion is the problem."

-Wayne Gretzky

This.

pow_pow~well put. very stupid of police to allow them to be that close.

it will be interesting to see where australia is in the next 50 years. with many muslim migrants coming to our shores from the problems in the middle east coupled with muslim birth rates that are significantly higher than anglo saxon australians.

so within the next 50-100 years it is very likely we will see an islamic political party.

An islamic political party that will be in power? like of the country? I doubt it... 50-100 years is a period of time that can change a LOT of things. With the rate that theological practice is diminishing, the world could be mostly non-theistic within that time

DingoSeanAn islamic political party that will be in power? like of the country? I doubt it... 50-100 years is a period of time that can change a LOT of things. With the rate that theological practice is diminishing, the world could be mostly non-theistic within that time

i never said in power.

also why did you delete the meninism thread?

-benedettoHilarious seeing people who claim they are religious shit on other religions for being silly. Look in the mirror and at the history of your claimed team. LMFAO.

Yeah dude, you're right, I just claim i'm religious over the internet to look cool? Hahahaha you fucking loser

frenchy strikes again!

ginfrenchy strikes again!

frenchy straight up sucks at newschoolers and being a person