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How are marker griffons?

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parkskier5
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Just bought a new pair of Line Chronic's for next years season, and i need to get some bindings for them. I was wondering how griffons are. I'm not really that hard on my bindings so i doubt i would ever break them if thats even an issue.
Apr 2 2015 5:37PM
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filipoio
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I had Griffons on my old skis, and after two seasons both of the toe/front pieces were incredibly lose. I've got the Jesters now, and if you can afford them, buy them.
Apr 4 2015 2:31AM
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-InfamousMax-
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Griffons are fine, a friend of me have them on his Ar7 and he never had problems with em!
Apr 4 2015 2:45AM
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VD.
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They're alright, although there are certainly better 12DIN bindings out there, namely the Salomon STH2 13, the Rossignol FKS 120, the Rossignol Axial 2 120 and the Rossignol Axial 3 120.

Although if you are set on Griffons, try and find a pair from 2011 or before, the older models have more metal in them.
Apr 4 2015 8:06AM
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Flyingnugget
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VD.They're alright, although there are certainly better 12DIN bindings out there, namely the Salomon STH2 13, the Rossignol FKS 120, the Rossignol Axial 2 120 and the Rossignol Axial 3 120.

Although if you are set on Griffons, try and find a pair from 2011 or before, the older models have more metal in them.


The sth2 wtr13 is a 13 din binding, and is in a whole different league than the other bindings you mentioned.

My experience with griffons was that the toe piece basically fell apart. Griffons are crap if you want to charge hard. My STH2 WTR13s on the other hand are super beast, and still feel like new after 60 days on them.
Apr 5 2015 8:01AM
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cdip
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No no no no no.



I had marker griffons at the start of the year. I later switched to rossignol fks and they are so much better! So nice and comfy to slip into but yet they are so strong. The pivot saves you from so many things on bad falls.

tldr: had griffons and fks, fks rules supreme.
Apr 5 2015 6:05PM
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VD.
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FlyingnuggetThe sth2 wtr13 is a 13 din binding, and is in a whole different league than the other bindings you mentioned.

My experience with griffons was that the toe piece basically fell apart. Griffons are crap if you want to charge hard. My STH2 WTR13s on the other hand are super beast, and still feel like new after 60 days on them.


STH2 13 is very much in the same league as all of those other bindings I mentioned. Yes, you it has a higher DIN range by one point, but to be honest if you're skiing on 13, I'd question why you're not on something burlier. You may have found it more durable but that doesn't put it in a different league of suitability. The Rossignol Axial2/3 120 is just a suitable as the Salomon STH2 13 for a level III/III+ skier weighing between 150ish lbs and 175/180lbs.
Apr 5 2015 7:08PM
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tdollo
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ive been on griffons for 3 years and they're still in good condition. never had anything wrong them
Apr 5 2015 7:17PM
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Flyingnugget
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VD.STH2 13 is very much in the same league as all of those other bindings I mentioned. Yes, you it has a higher DIN range by one point, but to be honest if you're skiing on 13, I'd question why you're not on something burlier. You may have found it more durable but that doesn't put it in a different league of suitability. The Rossignol Axial2/3 120 is just a suitable as the Salomon STH2 13 for a level III/III+ skier weighing between 150ish lbs and 175/180lbs.


Have you ridden or even held the Axial2 120? I have used them. They felt flexy, and I could snap in without pushing the heal piece down; they're a lower price point binding. Not really something I would trust or recommend for other hard chargers, lol.
Apr 6 2015 3:17PM
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VD.
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FlyingnuggetHave you ridden or even held the Axial2 120? I have used them. They felt flexy, and I could snap in without pushing the heal piece down; they're a lower price point binding. Not really something I would trust or recommend for other hard chargers, lol.


Yeh, I've spent upwards of 65+ days on them in BC and the Alps and skied everything on them from backcountry touring (I rammed BCA Trekkers in them) to park. The toe is same Dual Action III toe piece used on the FKS140, and the heel piece is the same PX heel piece used on the PX15 race binding, and features the longest elastic travel on the market (25mm). As far as 12 DIN bindings go, they're pretty solid... lol
Apr 6 2015 4:13PM
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E.Sinka
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I had mine for quite a while had no problems... but im switching to jesters now because they are much more durable
Apr 6 2015 4:25PM
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skithetrees22
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I've shattered two griffon heel pieces this year which has me seriously questioning their durability. I'll be getting rid of these next season and upgrading to some FKSs.
Apr 6 2015 5:10PM
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ghosthop
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I think they are a pain to step into and like the way they ski the least compared to other bindings at their pricepoint. maybe. But you know, opinions on the internet
Apr 7 2015 1:53AM
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x.murphy
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I've have the 2015 griffons and they're a solid binding. The durablity of them is great not one problem. Reading these other replies about the look pivots and fks and every one saying that they're better but the thing is that they're a bitch to fix if you brake any part of them. Mu friend has broke his pivots 5+ times this season and he said he isn't getting them again.
Apr 7 2015 10:51AM
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parkskier5
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I barely weigh 130 lbs, so i dont think i need jesters. Like i said, ive never broke any bindings before, so i must not be super hard on them, so i think griffon's will be alright for me.
Apr 7 2015 8:52PM
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rballs_
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parkskier5I barely weigh 130 lbs, so i dont think i need jesters. Like i said, ive never broke any bindings before, so i must not be super hard on them, so i think griffon's will be alright for me.

So you make a thread requesting advice and then completely disregard all advice given to you?
Apr 7 2015 9:20PM
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schusson
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Ive been riding griffons for 4 years, both generations and on park and powder skis. i have yet to have a legitimate problem with them. The only thing that has happened was a brake exploding under my foot but those can be replaced quite easily. I competed in east coast freeride comps, charging on hardpack and bulletproof bumps. they have held up pretty strongly
Apr 7 2015 10:34PM
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NHSkier125
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parkskier5Just bought a new pair of Line Chronic's for next years season, and i need to get some bindings for them. I was wondering how griffons are. I'm not really that hard on my bindings so i doubt i would ever break them if thats even an issue.


I like those, and fks
Apr 8 2015 9:16PM
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That_One_Dude
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Rode a pair of griffons pretty hard for two years on a pair of t-halls a couple seasons back. The toe pieces got very loose and had alot of play in them when I was done with the skis. I also snapped one of the heels at the part that holds the pivot and latches onto the track. That was from under rotating on a medium sized jump. When I had them I didn't have performance issues, just durability.

My next bindings were sth 14 drivers and I will be replacing those with a set of sth2's from Salomon as well

TLDR: Not a bad binding, has some durability issues and I have been happy with the switch to Salomon's Driver bindings.
Apr 8 2015 9:49PM
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elcornholio
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I am currently using the jester pro's and usually have my dins set between 9 and 13. Uf the toe was getting loose on them, it is from you boots wearing down and you can tighten your bindings with a hex wrench. Not really sure how the Jesters compare, but I definitely suggest going for them if they're in your budget.
Apr 10 2015 9:16AM
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last_tango
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VD.Rossignol Axial 3 120.

Highest elastic travel on the market. Out beats the fks/pivot now. I'm waiting for a 15 din to not be mandatory put on race plates.

BUT there is nothing that has the feel of a fks/pivot. You can feel the heel in the fks where with other binders create a bit of a dead spot.
Apr 10 2015 11:18AM
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parkskier5
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Would it be a bad idea if i bought the jester pros and set my din at 8? Theyre an 8-18 din binding so i would be at the bare minimum of the din setting. I'm 130 lbs and i know im more in the weight range of griffons, but i want the durability of the jester pros.
Apr 11 2015 10:32PM
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PowPirate
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parkskier5Would it be a bad idea if i bought the jester pros and set my din at 8? Theyre an 8-18 din binding so i would be at the bare minimum of the din setting. I'm 130 lbs and i know im more in the weight range of griffons, but i want the durability of the jester pros.


honestly. i would just get the griffons. i ride them and have had no problems. if your not going to put your dins on 10+ theres not much point. you never want to be on the bottom din settings anyway as it doesn't engage the spring as much.
Apr 11 2015 11:16PM
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parkskier5
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PowPiratehonestly. i would just get the griffons. i ride them and have had no problems. if your not going to put your dins on 10+ theres not much point. you never want to be on the bottom din settings anyway as it doesn't engage the spring as much.


Ok, thanks!
Apr 12 2015 11:49AM
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supersquid
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filipoioI had Griffons on my old skis, and after two seasons both of the toe/front pieces were incredibly lose. I've got the Jesters now, and if you can afford them, buy them.


wouldnt the jesters be a little overkill if hes not that hard on his bindings

also OP height and weight would be helpful
Apr 12 2015 4:24PM
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That_One_Dude
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elcornholioI am currently using the jester pro's and usually have my dins set between 9 and 13. Uf the toe was getting loose on them, it is from you boots wearing down and you can tighten your bindings with a hex wrench. Not really sure how the Jesters compare, but I definitely suggest going for them if they're in your budget.


I did not mean my boot toes were loose in the binding. I meant that I could actually wiggle the binding toes back and forth on my skis with my hand when no boots were in them, which also resulted in toe slop, but not from warn out boot soles.
Apr 15 2015 12:47AM
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elcornholio
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That_One_kidI did not mean my boot toes were loose in the binding. I meant that I could actually wiggle the binding toes back and forth on my skis with my hand when no boots were in them, which also resulted in toe slop, but not from warn out boot soles.


That seems to be a problem with how they're mounted, not the binding itself.
Apr 15 2015 8:34AM
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That_One_Dude
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elcornholioThat seems to be a problem with how they're mounted, not the binding itself.


The base of the toe piece is still securely mounted, I guess it's hard to explain without pics but it had play around the pin where the upper part of the toe meets the actual plate that is screwed in. They are still decent bindings I just had some problems and moved to something burlier.
Apr 15 2015 12:28PM
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sammy_JJ
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Griffons are probably the best binding on the market for your $$ especially when on a budget. (there are better bindings e.g. Pivots/FKS).
I would say that one of the greatest strengths of the griffon is that is one of the least finiky bindings out there.
(everyone has their personal preferences) For me the griffon is the #1 when building a setup on a budget.
Apr 16 2015 2:58PM
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Zurg
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Amazing
Apr 26 2015 6:45PM
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Thawg
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Griffons would be totally fine for you. You're not heavy enough to wreck them. If you weigh more than 180 and ski like you do you could have problems, or if you weigh more than 160 and ski really hard, then you could have the potential to break them. I weigh 165-170, ski pretty hard, and have not had any problems with them.
I have broken only one pair of bindings, and they were rossignol axial2 120. The heel plate snapped during a crash. The Griffons definitely felt and feel much more durable and stable than the axial2s did.
Apr 28 2015 11:12AM
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soupcan
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Honestly you should be fine with griffons everybody is on the fks train because they are a great binding just like the sth 13 but they are generally close to $100 more in most local shops, Atleast where I live they are. At 130 lbs I doubt you will ski a din higher then 10 and are less then 17 years old so you don't blow all your parents money on a binding that is more then you need.
Apr 29 2015 10:09PM
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