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VD.They're alright, although there are certainly better 12DIN bindings out there, namely the Salomon STH2 13, the Rossignol FKS 120, the Rossignol Axial 2 120 and the Rossignol Axial 3 120.
Although if you are set on Griffons, try and find a pair from 2011 or before, the older models have more metal in them.
FlyingnuggetThe sth2 wtr13 is a 13 din binding, and is in a whole different league than the other bindings you mentioned.
My experience with griffons was that the toe piece basically fell apart. Griffons are crap if you want to charge hard. My STH2 WTR13s on the other hand are super beast, and still feel like new after 60 days on them.
VD.STH2 13 is very much in the same league as all of those other bindings I mentioned. Yes, you it has a higher DIN range by one point, but to be honest if you're skiing on 13, I'd question why you're not on something burlier. You may have found it more durable but that doesn't put it in a different league of suitability. The Rossignol Axial2/3 120 is just a suitable as the Salomon STH2 13 for a level III/III+ skier weighing between 150ish lbs and 175/180lbs.
FlyingnuggetHave you ridden or even held the Axial2 120? I have used them. They felt flexy, and I could snap in without pushing the heal piece down; they're a lower price point binding. Not really something I would trust or recommend for other hard chargers, lol.
parkskier5I barely weigh 130 lbs, so i dont think i need jesters. Like i said, ive never broke any bindings before, so i must not be super hard on them, so i think griffon's will be alright for me.
parkskier5Just bought a new pair of Line Chronic's for next years season, and i need to get some bindings for them. I was wondering how griffons are. I'm not really that hard on my bindings so i doubt i would ever break them if thats even an issue.
VD.Rossignol Axial 3 120.
parkskier5Would it be a bad idea if i bought the jester pros and set my din at 8? Theyre an 8-18 din binding so i would be at the bare minimum of the din setting. I'm 130 lbs and i know im more in the weight range of griffons, but i want the durability of the jester pros.
PowPiratehonestly. i would just get the griffons. i ride them and have had no problems. if your not going to put your dins on 10+ theres not much point. you never want to be on the bottom din settings anyway as it doesn't engage the spring as much.
filipoioI had Griffons on my old skis, and after two seasons both of the toe/front pieces were incredibly lose. I've got the Jesters now, and if you can afford them, buy them.
elcornholioI am currently using the jester pro's and usually have my dins set between 9 and 13. Uf the toe was getting loose on them, it is from you boots wearing down and you can tighten your bindings with a hex wrench. Not really sure how the Jesters compare, but I definitely suggest going for them if they're in your budget.
That_One_kidI did not mean my boot toes were loose in the binding. I meant that I could actually wiggle the binding toes back and forth on my skis with my hand when no boots were in them, which also resulted in toe slop, but not from warn out boot soles.
elcornholioThat seems to be a problem with how they're mounted, not the binding itself.