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Brainstorm: how to create a hypothetical park ski that doesn't lose its edge
There has to be a way to solve this problem. I love the whole "all mountain park ski" category, because after a day or 2 on rails, there is no such thing. Once your edges are gone you will not be having fun on the rest of the mountain.
Even full on park skis come sharpened out of the box just to get destroyed. Do they even need an edge in a traditional sense? Is there a way to do it differently?
I just think its weird that there is a somewhat vestigial part of my park ski that maybe shouldn't be there at all.
1 pair park skis.
1 pair all mountain.
1 pair deep pow.
youll love yourself for getting a nice 3 ski quiv.
Just upped it from 1 to 2 so its a work in progress. Problem is now I am stuck with a busted all mountain park ski... when i need a dedicated park ski to really make it worthwhile.
But it sounds like it can be done. I think Tom is right in that the biggest issue comes down to manufacturing cost, as most ski companies are sourcing from the same handful of metal manufacturers. But I think you can work with traditional materials and make it work. Armada was thinking of a slot in system where the whole sidewall came out, it was nothing too complex. Durability will go down a bit sure, but its now easy to fix.
rozboonI think under the base for the internal part, but have the edge part maybe ~10mm wide so it's really strong and resists cracking.
i dont think going wider would be the way to go really. Being replaceable and not part of the rest of the ski it does not really matter if they crack ect. It would be better to have a regular sized edge which would maintain a natural flex in my opinion.
Ummmm Ninthward found the solution to this a while ago, with removable base plates in their game changer ski, but everyone ignores them so yeah... but here it is, it's a dope idea and looks like it'd work really well. But they're companies basically in the dumps so I don't think you'll be seeing skis like these again in a while or ever.
Changing the Game” Simply put, we want to change the game. This is the first of many designs to come. The purpose is longevity on skis vs damage from objects other than snow. We know skiers will want to ride objects, whether it be in the park or in the city Ninthward feels it is not the skis that choose what is to be skied but the skier. We want skiers to let go of the fear of ski destruction and ride what they choose. Ninthward will keep designing to this degree. We have produced two models with this belief in mind. The Home Wrecker and the Game Changer. The Home Wrecker is an edgeless ski, it is produced without a steel edge. The ski is designed for urban attempts only. It can be skied in a lift accessible park but we recommend at slow speeds only. The Home Wrecker is made for low speed urban assaults. Whether than be a 30ft wall ride, gaps to flat, or even stomping it out on pavement the Home Wrecker’s base is designed to take it. Ninthward will continue with this version and versions of the Home Wrecker to continually strive to produce the best urban ski possible. The Game Changer, is a novel concept, this is not a grind plate or a replace able edge ski, we just consider it to be a ski that has a plastic base. The game Changer is designed to last larger than a normal ski, it is designed to be abused on features, and once the plastic part of the base is skied away, bolt on a new one. If you are a park feature junkie this ski will be the choice for you, we will make the plastic base insert in a edged form if you want some bite on hard snow, or you can choose the rounded insert that provides a catch free surface.
will_powderSee but that's stupid. I want to hit the entire mountain everyday I go up. My pow skis are just as likely to be in the park as my park skis.
tomPietrowskiYep if you wanted to go bolt on that would be the way to go.
I think possibly a slide in section would work better though. Imagine if you could get replacement sections of edge which you could slot in each side underfoot. You could have pre rounded edges and sharp edges so it would be possible to have one ski for both carving and rails. The hard part would be to build an interface between edge section and core. It would have to be strong enough to stay in place when hooking up on rails but be easily remiveable when swapping edges. Not sure how it could work really but it would be cool I always thought.
wouldn't this lead to core rot though? i mean switching edges could potentially wear a bit and after a while you wouldn't have a perfect fit leading to water and snow getting past the edges and into the ski
