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Save M855 -Form Letter-

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Mr.Sloth
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http://www.savem855.com/

The ATF as well as some politicians in Congress are attempting to ban m855 ammunition, claiming that it puts "law enforcement in danger." Not only is this bullshit (Most rifle ammunition can penetrate body armor, not just m855, as they claim), but it is a blatant infringement of basic 2nd ammendment rights. "Green tip" ammunition is used for a variety of purposes and even the suggestion that it should be banned is ridiculous.

*deep breath* end rant. If you even remotely care PLEASE fill out this form letter and send it to your representatives and the ATF.

Thank you!
http://www.savem855.com/
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Feb 25 2015 12:21PM
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.frenchy
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ugh, I agree with you 200% but i'm feeling too lazy to click those links right now. my threads for later so I can whatever you said to do :^)


fuck obama and his libtard army
Feb 25 2015 12:22PM
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Mr.Sloth
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.frenchyugh, I agree with you 200% but i'm feeling too lazy to click those links right now. my threads for later so I can whatever you said to do :^)


fuck obama and his libtard army


It's super easy. Just fill out a couple lines and hit "send fax."
Feb 25 2015 12:24PM
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Mr.Sloth
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I also want to stress this isn't some bullshit White House Petition. This is a form letter, the idea is to flood the ATF with faxes until they yield >:)
Feb 25 2015 12:27PM
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.frenchy
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LOL sent, literally takes 5 seconds people
Feb 25 2015 12:29PM
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deleted5
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you have the right to bear arms. How is banning a specialized kind of ammunition, an in infringement on your second Amendment?
Feb 25 2015 12:29PM
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.frenchy
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zzzskizzzyou have the right to bear arms. How is banning a specialized kind of ammunition, an in infringement on your second Amendment?


^ HERE COMES THE LIBTARD LOL ^


Why do you care what ammo I can/cannot use? I want to have the best ammunition out there, it's not up to the government to tell me what ammo I can or can't use. Fuck you.
Feb 25 2015 12:31PM
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Mr.Sloth
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zzzskizzzyou have the right to bear arms. How is banning a specialized kind of ammunition, an in infringement on your second Amendment?


m855 isn't specialized. It's an incredibly common form of ammunition. Banning it would make ammunition prices skyrocket -> It would be much harder for me to purchase AR ammunition -> infringing the 2nd amendment.

Also, why even ban this ammunition? I don't know about you, but I don't like the idea of banning the production/sale of something, no, ANYTHING, for no reason.
Feb 25 2015 12:36PM
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steezysteeze
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I'm a really left wing guy but I think banning guns is fucking stupid. Why let some lunatics take away from the freedom of others to do as they please and enjoy their hobby. I would fill that out but I'm Canadian, just wanted to say how I feels.
Feb 25 2015 1:04PM
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no_steeze
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I feel like if you're shooting cops with an assault rifle it doesn't matter what kind of ammo you use
Feb 25 2015 1:09PM
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uvatrog
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done and done, this whole thing is bullshit, m855 isnt even armor piercing completely overstepping thier bounds
Feb 25 2015 1:32PM
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Steezy_IN_KC
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I gladly clicked send my fax. Thanks for the heads up.
Feb 25 2015 2:20PM
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uvatrog
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no_steezeI feel like if you're shooting cops with an assault rifle it doesn't matter what kind of ammo you use

it really doesnt, really any 5.56 will pierce soft body armro which is what cops wear.
Feb 25 2015 2:46PM
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deleted5
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Mr.Slothm855 isn't specialized. It's an incredibly common form of ammunition. Banning it would make ammunition prices skyrocket -> It would be much harder for me to purchase AR ammunition -> infringing the 2nd amendment.

Also, why even ban this ammunition? I don't know about you, but I don't like the idea of banning the production/sale of something, no, ANYTHING, for no reason.

Gun enthusiasts don't know the 2nd amendment. If it's such an infringement have the Supreme Court overturn it. O wait you can't because its within the government's power to ban a kind of ammunition. Now if it's fair or unfair to gun owners that's a different argument.
Feb 26 2015 12:41PM
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arnie_grape
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who cares what ammunition you have?
it still goes bang and kills things which is what you hillbilly retards are so drawn to right?
Feb 26 2015 12:57PM
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Steezy_Peazy
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.frenchyfuck obama and his libtard army


I like you because of this one post.
Feb 26 2015 2:32PM
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JGWI
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cabdriverwho cares what ammunition you have?
it still goes bang and kills things which is what you hillbilly retards are so drawn to right?


Well then.
Feb 26 2015 2:38PM
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Steezy_Peazy
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AAAAND.... Done.

I love how the same people who want to ban any and all guns want to decriminalize drugs...
Feb 26 2015 2:38PM
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Hughes
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Steezy_PeazyAAAAND.... Done.

I love how the same people who want to ban any and all guns want to decriminalize drugs...


The drugs people want to decriminalize aren`t fucking lethal. guns are pointless and silly.

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Feb 26 2015 2:55PM
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987321654hgfd
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cabdriverwho cares what ammunition you have?
it still goes bang and kills things which is what you hillbilly retards are so drawn to right?


m855 makes up a huge portion of 556/223 ammo sales. If it was banned, prices for 556/223 would go up and there would be another shortage as people scramble to get it.

Hughesguns are pointless and silly.

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Calling them silly is your opinion, calling them pointless is wrong.
Feb 26 2015 3:01PM
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Steezy_Peazy
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HughesThe drugs people want to decriminalize aren`t fucking lethal. guns are pointless and silly.

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Drugs serve no purpose other than to get you high... while many people think this is great, it's ultimately trivial
Guns are used to protect people and property, kill food, and to discourage a government from attempting to take power.
Feb 26 2015 3:17PM
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987321654hgfd
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Steezy_PeazyDrugs serve no purpose other than to get you high...


No.
Feb 26 2015 3:18PM
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Steezy_Peazy
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CirilloNo.


What is the purpose of drugs, then? Your glaucoma doesn't count, that's a prescription. Recreational drugs serve no purpose other than to get high or feed an addiction.
Feb 26 2015 3:28PM
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-benedetto
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Steezy_PeazyWhat is the purpose of drugs, then? Your glaucoma doesn't count, that's a prescription. Recreational drugs serve no purpose other than to get high or feed an addiction.


I'll forgive your ignorance. Google how MDMA can help ptsd and about marijuana helping with cancer. And that's just the tip of the iceberg..
Feb 26 2015 3:52PM
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yungcigsmoker
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Can someone please explain to me why you need an assault rifle? I understand owning any gun but an assault rifle. Why do you actually need one?
Feb 26 2015 4:27PM
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Hughes
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Steezy_PeazyDrugs serve no purpose other than to get you high... while many people think this is great, it's ultimately trivial
Guns are used to protect people and property, kill food, and to discourage a government from attempting to take power.


To discourage a government to take power? fucking really? do you really believe thats a valid argument?
Feb 26 2015 4:34PM
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steezysteeze
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MTNSCan someone please explain to me why you need an assault rifle? I understand owning any gun but an assault rifle. Why do you actually need one?


Because it's your hobby and why not. Can't the government trust it's people to do as they please if they do not harm others?
Feb 26 2015 5:18PM
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987321654hgfd
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MTNSCan someone please explain to me why you need an assault rifle? I understand owning any gun but an assault rifle. Why do you actually need one?


An assault rifle is a select fire weapon. That means is can be fired either semi or full automatic. 99% of people cannot buy an assault rife.
Feb 26 2015 5:24PM
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deleted5
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Steezy_PeazyDrugs serve no purpose other than to get you high... while many people think this is great, it's ultimately trivial
Guns are used to protect people and property, kill food, and to discourage a government from attempting to take power.


that depends weed which I actually don't like but I don't care that other people do it. I don't think it's nearly as bad as people consuming alcohol as for cocaine crystal meth and heroin no I don't think that should be legalized.

now please tell me how many guns in America are used to kill other people. What is it like 35 people a day die From gun violence in America.

lastly the government already controls you, and rips your rights away. You have no freedom to privacy. The government can basically detain you if they suspect you're a terrorist without any proof, forever. and let's not even get into the corruption on the two parties that control the entire country. There's like three main families in the entire nation That Run for president. your rights to own a gun are so trivial to the government taking over, and controlling you it doesn't matter. what's your pathetic little assault weapons, or rifle compared to the military.
Feb 26 2015 5:30PM
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987321654hgfd
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^ Vast majority of gun violence is committed with handguns. No handguns that I'm aware of (besides AR pistols which defeats the whole purpose of a concealable handgun) fire 5.56mm ammunition.
Feb 26 2015 5:37PM
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cobra_commander
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Its a silly round anyway...

I shoot 55gr M193 for plinking, and 77gr SMK for social work. Both are better at making bodies go cold than the inaccurate and ineffective 62gr M855. All have no problem shredding through soft armor. M855 and Mk262 mod1 both go through single steel plates pretty well (old school body armor), but neither are that effective against current level III and IV plates.

yawn. I still did it though. That way idiots will continue to buy the M855 not the M193 and XM193.
Feb 26 2015 5:41PM
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Steezy_Peazy
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HughesTo discourage a government to take power? fucking really? do you really believe thats a valid argument?


Yes fucking really. That is the genesis of the 2nd amendment.
Feb 26 2015 11:12PM
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.frenchy
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MTNSCan someone please explain to me why you need an assault rifle? I understand owning any gun but an assault rifle. Why do you actually need one?


Because they're fun to shoot you dumbass, or hunt boar with, competition, self defense, etc...


Why does someone need a fancy sports car?
Feb 26 2015 11:19PM
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cobra_commander
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MTNSCan someone please explain to me why you need an assault rifle? I understand owning any gun but an assault rifle. Why do you actually need one?


Two points:

1) as mentioned, an Assault Rifle is a magazine fed select fire weapon. Very few people own one. The M16A4 is the current US issued Assault rifle. The M4A1 is an assault carbine, but often considered an assault rifle. Both are capable of select fire (hold the trigger down and more than one round is cycled. An AR15 is neither. However, the anti-gun movement has made up the phrase 'assault weapon' to describe anything that looks kinda like an assault rifle, regardless of functionality.

2) because I am a free American, and I want to. That is all the reason I need.
Feb 26 2015 11:38PM
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notspoicey
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Kinda unrelated but I hate when people want to ban guns because they "kill people". They don't. The person that pulls the trigger is the one who kills. A gun doesn't do anything until someone touches it because that is the intention. The gun itself doesn't do anything.
Feb 27 2015 12:03AM
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kim_jong_ill
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Fucking americans and their guns
Feb 27 2015 12:08AM
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deleted5
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ginKinda unrelated but I hate when people want to ban guns because they "kill people". They don't. The person that pulls the trigger is the one who kills. A gun doesn't do anything until someone touches it because that is the intention. The gun itself doesn't do anything.


and the reason for global warming is the melting ice caps, and the reason for divorce is marriage.
Feb 27 2015 12:52AM
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.frenchy
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kim_jong_illFucking americans and their guns


Go beat off to moose porn you dumb canuck.
Feb 27 2015 12:53AM
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toastyteenagers
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I've never heard of that caliber, what is it used in?
Feb 27 2015 1:12AM
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yungcigsmoker
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.frenchyself defense


LOL.

Really? For self defense? Where do you live? Afghanistan? I assure you that a beretta will suffice for defending yourself.
Feb 27 2015 7:51AM
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steezysteeze
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zzzskizzzand the reason for global warming is the melting ice caps, and the reason for divorce is marriage.


The way I see it that argument is pro gun.
Feb 27 2015 7:57AM
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Steezy_Peazy
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MTNSLOL.

Really? For self defense? Where do you live? Afghanistan? I assure you that a beretta will suffice for defending yourself.


My uncle lives in an upperclass neighborhood, and was the victim of a home invasion by a junkie with a 12 gauge. The AR sent the guy running. STFU.
Feb 27 2015 8:58AM
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987321654hgfd
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toastyteenagersI've never heard of that caliber, what is it used in?


It's used in the highly regarded pen-15

Feb 27 2015 9:18AM
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deleted5
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steezysteezeThe way I see it that argument is pro gun.


Shockingly it went over your head, if there was no global warming the ice caps wouldn't be melting. and if there was no marriage there wouldn't be divorce. just like if you made it hard for a crazy person to get a gun less people would die from guns? look at every other country that have a stricter regulation of firearms.
Feb 27 2015 12:58PM
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.frenchy
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MTNSLOL.

Really? For self defense? Where do you live? Afghanistan? I assure you that a beretta will suffice for defending yourself.


I'd love to use an assault rifle for self defense, if there's a group of attackers in my house I'd have a fuckin field day! :)
Feb 27 2015 1:29PM
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El_Barto.
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MTNSLOL.

Really? For self defense? Where do you live? Afghanistan? I assure you that a beretta will suffice for defending yourself.


shut up
Feb 27 2015 2:31PM
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uvatrog
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MTNSCan someone please explain to me why you need an assault rifle? I understand owning any gun but an assault rifle. Why do you actually need one?

they are fun to shoot for one, and to defend myself and those i love with adequate firepower for whatever sitaution may arise.
Feb 27 2015 4:14PM
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uvatrog
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toastyteenagersI've never heard of that caliber, what is it used in?

5.56 is the caliber ar-15s are chamered for and m16s, and m4s.
Feb 27 2015 4:15PM
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itsbenyo
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zzzskizzzShockingly it went over your head, if there was no global warming the ice caps wouldn't be melting. and if there was no marriage there wouldn't be divorce. just like if you made it hard for a crazy person to get a gun less people would die from guns? look at every other country that have a stricter regulation of firearms.


have you heard of the black market? criminals will always find a way to get their hands on something deadly. whether that be a firearm, sword, baseball bat or anything else that can be used to bring harm.

as my grandfather said, "laws are like locks. they keep out the good people but the bad ones will just break the lock and go in any ways."
Feb 27 2015 6:34PM
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deleted5
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itsbenyohave you heard of the black market? criminals will always find a way to get their hands on something deadly. whether that be a firearm, sword, baseball bat or anything else that can be used to bring harm.

as my grandfather said, "laws are like locks. they keep out the good people but the bad ones will just break the lock and go in any ways."


there's a huge difference between criminals and kids who shoot up schools. you are a moron if you think stricter gun regulations won't effect the murder rates with guns. what happened to Australia after they had stricter gun regulations? all their mass shooting stopped that was 14 years ago.
Feb 27 2015 6:53PM
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cobra_commander
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zzzskizzzShockingly it went over your head, if there was no global warming the ice caps wouldn't be melting. and if there was no marriage there wouldn't be divorce. just like if you made it hard for a crazy person to get a gun less people would die from guns? look at every other country that have a stricter regulation of firearms.


We actively target people who posses, use, distribute and produce crack cocaine. Yet it still only takes about 30 minutes of concerted effort to obtain it.

Violent crime goes up when guns are removed from the population.
The evidence that removing guns has an affect on homoicde is almost nonexistent. When comparing before and after for each country it is shown to have little to no affect.
Feb 27 2015 8:22PM
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