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Gaper losing his mind at Bridger

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DockEllis
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I guess this guy didn't have any avy gear and wasn't allowed to ride Schlasmans (clearly states you need it on the map as well as everywhere else) and proceeded to lose his mind and demand his money back, apparently at 3pm after skiing all day. What a dick head, funny video though.

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/746727/Guy-freaks-out-at-Bridger-Bowl-because-he-doesn--39-t-have-a-transceiver-to-ski-Schlasmans-lift-
Jan 5 2015 2:01PM
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KENDOZER
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Dude would pry stroke out if he knew about Vail's prices going up.
Jan 12 2015 12:34PM
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ski4fun420
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Talk about someone who needs some anger management classes!! This video needs to go viral.
Jan 12 2015 3:01PM
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ski4fun420Talk about someone who needs some anger management classes!! This video needs to go viral.


I think it has....
Jan 12 2015 3:54PM
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dispatchQ_main
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does he not have a point? Does it say you can't ski that lift without a transciever?
Jan 12 2015 4:15PM
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californiagrown
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Bogezdoes he not have a point? Does it say you can't ski that lift without a transciever?


It says it everywhere. In fact it says it on the nice yellow right by his head in the video amongst many, many other places

Not to mention he finally got around to complaint at 3pm haha
Jan 12 2015 4:28PM
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Daph
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RubberSouli need closure on this. anyone know what ended up happening?

why would that woman even bother talking to him? that shit's above her pay grade, if i were her i wouldve called in a manager the moment he started getting pissed

also that mtn looks amazing damn. and only 50 bucks for a ticket sheesh


the old dude who talked to him at the end is the mountain manager
Jan 12 2015 5:19PM
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caucasian_chad
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No. And they don't need to.

Montana Code Annotated 23-2-736. Duties of skier.

(2) A skier:

(d) shall obey all posted or other warnings and instructions of the ski area operator; and
(e) shall read the ski area trail map and must be aware of its contents.

The guy in the video violated (d) by skiing past the sign saying you need a beacon in Slushmans without reading it, and violated (e) by not reading the trail map, which clearly states that a beacon is required.

Big Couloir and North Summit Snowfield at Big Sky also require avy gear.
Jan 12 2015 10:40PM
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caucasian_chad
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DockEllisThe ridge is in bounds, avy controlled, and patrolled. Honestly, I think BB requires it mostly to keep gapers off the ridge because there is some hairy terrain they would inevitably get stuck in.


I think this is the real reason. Someone who doesn't know what they're doing could easily die back there.
Jan 12 2015 10:45PM
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caucasian_chad
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That's Montana state law not a skier's code you dingleberry. By law, he should have been aware of the information printed on the trail map BEFORE going up the lifts. The giant reflective yellow sign above the guy's head also states the requirement. That's above and beyond what the law requires. Do you think resorts should have to give everyone their money back if a lift ends up being on wind hold all day too? if a consumer chooses to not research or ignore readily available information, that's the consumer's fault, not the business's. The business should not be required to spoon feed that information to every single fucking customer. It's not like Bridger is trying to hide anything from people.
Jan 13 2015 12:27AM
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k-rob
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RubberSoulwhy would that woman even bother talking to him? that shit's above her pay grade, if i were her i wouldve called in a manager the moment he started getting pissed


that`s one hell of an assumption about her position and wages buddy, she did say she was the one in charge
Jan 13 2015 12:57AM
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SpookyCat
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k-robthat`s one hell of an assumption about her position and wages buddy, she did say she was the one in charge


yeah man, she musta been making like 10.50 an hour...
Jan 13 2015 1:19AM
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ghosthop
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There are super obvious signs all the way to the lift stating you need a transceiver to ski this terrain, and its very obviously highlighted on the trail map

the dude is a knob fur sure and the transceiver rule helps keep people like him off of that lift, the terrain it accesses is serious to say the least.

oh and, you heard wrong, tickets are really $152. Plus you have to hike for your lines at bridger, so plebeian, tram4lyfe, everyone knows the real gnargnar is up the street at big sky. But really, just don't go to montana its cold and windy and grey.
Jan 13 2015 1:26AM
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SpookyCat
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ghosthopoh and, you heard wrong, tickets are really $152. Plus you have to hike for your lines at bridger, so plebeian, tram4lyfe, everyone knows the real gnargnar is up the street at big sky. But really, just don't go to montana its cold and windy and grey.


No they're actually not. My friend was just there 2 weeks ago and it wasn't more than $55... not to mention they rented a cabin at the base of the resort for cheaper than a yurt in most places.
Jan 13 2015 2:20AM
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ghosthop
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JenniferGarnerNo they're actually not. My friend was just there 2 weeks ago and it wasn't more than $55... not to mention they rented a cabin at the base of the resort for cheaper than a yurt in most places.


sarcasm meter is broken
Jan 13 2015 2:46AM
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RubberSoul
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doesn't that sort of serve the point though? this is a very dangerous activity in certain locations, which is why these rules have to be in place. if they let people in without the right gear, as soon as a guy like this got hurt it'd probably be the resort's fault in his mind

and telling every single customer that? that's really not reasonable logistically. if you know enough about skiing to ski that stuff, then you shouldn't be so surprised that they require gear for it

plus, look at the trail map. the message is hard to miss

http://bridgerbowl.com/mountain-and-town/ski-area-trail-map

k-robthat`s one hell of an assumption about her position and wages buddy, she did say she was the one in charge


are you really trying to paint what i said as derogatory? "above my paygrade" is an expression that means it's not your place to deal with something. i didn't hear her say she was in charge (and someone else also replied to me that the dude at the end was a manager approaching the guy

my point was that the person sitting in the window isn't the one who makes policy or whose responsibility it is to explain it to irate customers. that wasn't anything to do with the person herself. take a fucking lap dude
Jan 13 2015 10:16AM
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SpookyCat
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ghosthopsarcasm meter is broken


I don't have a meter for sarcasm so how can it be broken? What are you talking about?
Jan 13 2015 10:25AM
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J.D.
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I dunno, man. What this essentially is like is like saying "you didn't tell me that this car you sold me doesn't operate under the ocean".

Like, you'd have to be an absolute moron and not understand the very basic concept that your purchase of a lift ticket is subject to you obeying the rules of the mountain - most of which have to do with safety. You pay $X to use the lifts and ski the terrain all within the conditions the mountain imposes - and can impose at any time, unilaterally.

If they close a part of the hill because it's being avy controlled, do they need to tell you that at the ticket booth? No. Are they required to tell you that one of the chairlifts is out of service because of high winds, or because they're repairing it? No. How about park passes; when dad and kids from South Dakota come out on vacation, does the ticket seller say, "here are your day passes! Now, just so you know, if you want to use the terrain park you need to purchase a park pass." Well, most places with park passes sure don't do that.

Basically I think you're wrong.
Jan 13 2015 11:35AM
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scratchproteen
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SourSteezledamn this mountain looks so dope!

and that guy needs to smoke a fucking bowl of iboga and chill the fuck out



I suggest going to ski it! From MN here and we've gone on trips out west since 08. Went to Bridger for 3 days in 09 and hit it perfect on day one received 23 inches of fresh. Enjoyed it so much we went back next year.

Still to this day Bridger has been my number 1 day in the mountains which includes trips to CO, WY, and UT.



Any Bridger locals in the thread that can confirm the business of Bridger? I've heard from buddies who now live out there that it has gained a lot more popularity.
Jan 13 2015 12:58PM
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ghosthop
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scratchproteenAny Bridger locals in the thread that can confirm the business of Bridger? I've heard from buddies who now live out there that it has gained a lot more popularity.


part of bridger's appeal is that it is a 20 minute drive from a college town. Bozeman as a whole is steadily growing, the college is on an expansion kick and accepting pretty much anyone out of state to fund all its new development, and the town is a super popular place for young families to move to raise their children in an outdoor paradise. All of this means more people in town to ski Bridger. I don't know numbers for this year, but since they put in Schlasman's there has been a steady uptick in season passes sold.

big sky's purchase of moonlight didn't help things either, big sky bumped up prices across the board at moonlight to push people to buy the biggest skiing in america passes (which it isn't with pc/canyons connected) so a lot of families that would have gone on vacation to moonlight are now coming to bridger

to any nser's thinking of visiting, drop me a pm, I don't know the ridge like some of the 20 year locals but I would be happy to show you around
Jan 13 2015 1:31PM
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ModMommy
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scratchproteenAny Bridger locals in the thread that can confirm the business of Bridger? I've heard from buddies who now live out there that it has gained a lot more popularity.


I've only been out here for two years, but I've held a Bridger pass during that time. It's becoming a lot more popular, can get skied out pretty fast with its proximity to Bozeman. The price of passes went up a bit this year, but that was expected as they compete with Big Sky. It's a pretty fun mountain. Majority of it is left natural, meaning there are lots of moguls to be found, pillow lines, and plenty of things to tranny. The ridge is the most appealing part of the mountain imo. Super friendly mountian, families and college students can ev found there on weekends, or even taking a college class in skiing. It tends to get more snow than Big Sky, as the Bridger Effect is a real thing.
Bridger is pretty tight.
Jan 13 2015 2:03PM
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dmski
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wow... what. a. loser.
Jan 13 2015 3:59PM
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k-rob
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RubberSoulare you really trying to paint what i said as derogatory? "above my paygrade" is an expression that means it's not your place to deal with something. i didn't hear her say she was in charge (and someone else also replied to me that the dude at the end was a manager approaching the guy

my point was that the person sitting in the window isn't the one who makes policy or whose responsibility it is to explain it to irate customers. that wasn't anything to do with the person herself. take a fucking lap dude


naw man, all i said is it was a bold assumption, you`re the one who needs a chill pill.
Jan 13 2015 11:54PM
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RubberSoul
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k-robnaw man, all i said is it was a bold assumption, you`re the one who needs a chill pill.


nothing said about a chill pill-- take a lap means take a break from participating cause youre not making any sense. why don't you understand common expressions?

it's a bold assumption that the ticket window lady doesnt make policy? go get your feelings hurt somewhere else
Jan 14 2015 10:19AM
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youngloaf
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I hate this man.
Jan 14 2015 10:35AM
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k-rob
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RubberSoulnothing said about a chill pill-- take a lap means take a break from participating cause youre not making any sense. why don't you understand common expressions?

it's a bold assumption that the ticket window lady doesnt make policy? go get your feelings hurt somewhere else


you`re the one who got offended, and is again ignoring the fact that she said she was in charge.
Jan 14 2015 12:32PM
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GayWolf420
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all this bridger talk makes me want to go up there and ski this ridge. shit looks like too much fun.
Jan 14 2015 12:48PM
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ModMommy
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DeebieSkeebiesall this bridger talk makes me want to go up there and ski this ridge. shit looks like too much fun.


I've got a couch you can crash on, and ways for a free ticket. Bridger is fun.
Jan 14 2015 10:09PM
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californiagrown
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There actually isn't anything inbounds in Idaho that's all that great. The BC is sick, but the lift served leaves quite a bit to be desired.
Jan 14 2015 10:30PM
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SpookyCat
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"The guy is a fucking knob for sure but if you've ever worked customer service you'd know that any business needs to clearly outline the limitations of their product to avoid"

Really? It sounded like you were making a statement (aka placing blame) about Bridger Bowl's business practices which sounds like you're backing up this complete and utter douche bag. No where is it written that you cannot ride up the lifts with shit-covered pants but its reasonable to think its not allowed.

At least in this case, it was stated everywhere else but the ticket window of what the requirements are of riding this lift.
Jan 15 2015 2:50AM
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GayWolf420
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Probably just to get the hot head out of their hair. Hope the ticket people/managers were adement and didnt buckle to this shitbird.
Jan 15 2015 11:41AM
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DockEllis
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DeebieSkeebiesProbably just to get the hot head out of their hair. Hope the ticket people/managers were adement and didnt buckle to this shitbird.


I have not heard for sure whether or not BB refunded him, but I'm almost positive the didn't. Mostly because his ridiculous tirade was going on at 3pm, an hour before they close. And the lift he was bitching about closes at 2:30 if I'm not mistaken.
Jan 15 2015 1:38PM
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GayWolf420
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DockEllisI have not heard for sure whether or not BB refunded him, but I'm almost positive the didn't. Mostly because his ridiculous tirade was going on at 3pm, an hour before they close. And the lift he was bitching about closes at 2:30 if I'm not mistaken.


we can only hope. still kinda funny this cheap-o tried getting a refund after a full day of skiing. what an ass.
Jan 15 2015 6:15PM
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arnie_grape
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so fuck him. if he can't read the massive signs and warnings he doesn't deserve shit.

I don't get the US mentality of "im a customer I can do whatever the fuck I want cause I'm paying for it".
Jan 15 2015 7:51PM
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Youngfeiler
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What a fuckin tron. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Jan 15 2015 9:43PM
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SpookyCat
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cabdriverso fuck him. if he can't read the massive signs and warnings he doesn't deserve shit.

I don't get the US mentality of "im a customer I can do whatever the fuck I want cause I'm paying for it".



Because Americans tend to have this attitude that if you as a business don't treat adults like infants by holding their hands through everything that requires a sliver of research or independent thought, then its your fault. Its not theirs for blindly going to a resort, going straight to the ticket window and purchasing a lift ticket without bothering to even look at a trail map or the resort's website... even though its common knowledge that most west coast resorts have terrain that you shouldn't/cannot access without a beacon.

ElGato's responses only reinforces this zero personal accountability idea and is a reason why you see so many warning signs on everything and everywhere. Its pathetic and unnecessary. No wonder America is such a joke to the rest of the world.
Jan 16 2015 9:22AM
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malonius_funk
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man, bridger totally boned this guy. what a bunch of bull. i wouldn't suggest anyone come to bridger to ski. there's no snow and the ridge sucks. stay away.
Jan 16 2015 10:39AM
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RubberSoul
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no comment on the rest of this but do your homework, that was NOT a frivolous lawsuit at all

go read up on it and stop spreading misinformation because you are a victim of PR when you regurgitate nonsense like that

there are plenty of frivolous lawsuits but that was absolutely not one of them
Jan 16 2015 3:46PM
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californiagrown
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RubberSoulno comment on the rest of this but do your homework, that was NOT a frivolous lawsuit at all

go read up on it and stop spreading misinformation because you are a victim of PR when you regurgitate nonsense like that

there are plenty of frivolous lawsuits but that was absolutely not one of them


Did she spill her own coffee? Was she awarded more than double the cost of her medical bills?
Jan 16 2015 6:14PM
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SpookyCat
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RubberSoulno comment on the rest of this but do your homework, that was NOT a frivolous lawsuit at all

go read up on it and stop spreading misinformation because you are a victim of PR when you regurgitate nonsense like that

there are plenty of frivolous lawsuits but that was absolutely not one of them


Actually that one was legit. The lawsuit wasn't over her spilling her coffee, it was over the fact that the coffee was so hot she suffered serious burns from it. Her skin practically melted.
Jan 16 2015 10:45PM
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Powstagram
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JenniferGarnerActually that one was legit. The lawsuit wasn't over her spilling her coffee, it was over the fact that the coffee was so hot she suffered serious burns from it. Her skin practically melted.


If you want frivolous look at that case where that woman sued because she put her dog into the microwave to dry it. Then she sued cause there wasn't a warning against putting pets in the microwave like what in the living fuck
Jan 17 2015 8:56AM
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RubberSoul
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californiagrownDid she spill her own coffee? Was she awarded more than double the cost of her medical bills?


yeah she spilled it, but the coffee was insanely hot for logistical reasons on mcd's behalf and burned the HELL out of her (look up her injuries it's brutal, 3rd degree burns all over her lower half/crotch, tons of skin grafts necessary, permanent disfigurement).

she sued for ~20,000, to cover her medical expenses plus anticipated ones/loss of income, and mcd's offered $800. she lawyered up, tried a bunch of mediations and settlements which mcd's ignored or refused, and then they went to trial, where they found her 20% responsible and mcd's 80%, and awarded her like 200k in compensatory and 2 or 3 mil in punitive, but that latter number went way down afterward thru a settlement (don't know the details of that one, and the actual amount was never diclosed)

that's just from memory and there are obv lots more details involved but i hope that answers your question

i just hate that people parrot that like it was the typical american sue happy culture at work. she asked for a reasonable amount, mcd's said no, and they got spanked in court
Jan 19 2015 1:44PM
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Casey
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RubberSoulyeah she spilled it, but the coffee was insanely hot for logistical reasons on mcd's behalf and burned the HELL out of her (look up her injuries it's brutal, 3rd degree burns all over her lower half/crotch, tons of skin grafts necessary, permanent disfigurement).

she sued for ~20,000, to cover her medical expenses plus anticipated ones/loss of income, and mcd's offered $800. she lawyered up, tried a bunch of mediations and settlements which mcd's ignored or refused, and then they went to trial, where they found her 20% responsible and mcd's 80%, and awarded her like 200k in compensatory and 2 or 3 mil in punitive, but that latter number went way down afterward thru a settlement (don't know the details of that one, and the actual amount was never diclosed)

that's just from memory and there are obv lots more details involved but i hope that answers your question

i just hate that people parrot that like it was the typical american sue happy culture at work. she asked for a reasonable amount, mcd's said no, and they got spanked in court


Yeah I'm pretty sure she wasn't driving either. I vaguely remember some documentary about all the BS and misinformation surrounding that lawsuit. I think McDonalds lawyers tried to smear her or something.
Jan 19 2015 3:57PM
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howlongcanausern
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^^^ the documentary is called Hot Coffee and is very interesting. highly recommend.

that old lady was so sweet, too :(
Jan 19 2015 4:59PM
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