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What is a switch lip?

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Slush
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Alright, SORRY FOR BEING A MASSIVE NEWB, but how does a switch lip look?

I used to think you come up switch, and bring the tails up and over the rail (hence, I thought that's how all lipslides worked), but after watching a recent skate video, they said switch lip was going switch and having the nose end come around over the rail. I'm all confused.
Dec 17 2014 8:15PM
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shepux
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It's when the nose comes over i'm pretty sure
Dec 17 2014 8:21PM
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BWalmer
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Tails over is just tails over. Switch lip is tips over. Think of a normal lip slide, you have to get the tails of your skis over the rail, meaning it's harder than normal on because you have to jump higher and could catch your tails on entry. Switch lip would be doing the same thing backwards, only in this case the nose of your skis are your "tails" because they're the furthest thing away from a rail.

Think about it in skateboarding terms (since that's where the name came from), if you do a lipslide you ollie over the rail to boardslide, if you're going switch it's exactly the same only the front foot is now in back. Same with skis, it's about the motion, not the direction.
Dec 17 2014 8:26PM
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Slush
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BWalmerTails over is just tails over. Switch lip is tips over. Think of a normal lip slide, you have to get the tails of your skis over the rail, meaning it's harder than normal on because you have to jump higher and could catch your tails on entry. Switch lip would be doing the same thing backwards, only in this case the nose of your skis are your "tails" because they're the furthest thing away from a rail.

Think about it in skateboarding terms (since that's where the name came from), if you do a lipslide you ollie over the rail to boardslide, if you're going switch it's exactly the same only the front foot is now in back. Same with skis, it's about the motion, not the direction.


Huh, interesting. Thanks a bunch, I understand it now.

Is sw tails over first called anything? It should have a name, I think it's hard as heck to do (sw tails 1st that it)
Dec 17 2014 9:36PM
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TotallyTrevor
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a switch lip is the coolest trick in skiing.
Dec 17 2014 11:53PM
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AlexFogo85
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TotallyTrevora switch lip is the coolest trick in skiing.


What about lip on back 2?
Dec 18 2014 12:23AM
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McLS
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AlexFogo85What about lip on back 2?


GNnnnnnn lip on *blind 2. PLS.

yeah switch lip is bringing your tips over. Literally one of the easiest way to fuck up badly on a rail xD sw lip on pretz 2 (so blind 2) is faya.
Dec 18 2014 5:55AM
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JAHBRADOR
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sw lip to switch = maximum trillness
Dec 18 2014 6:02AM
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RubberSoul
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TwinipzIs sw tails over first called anything? It should have a name, I think it's hard as heck to do (sw tails 1st that it)


well people refer to that as "switch tails" sometimes because of exactly what you said, it's tough too. people are actually sorta split on what they think is harder, switch lip or switch tails


and here's an easier/foolproof way to know lipslide: it means you spin away from the rail, whether that spin is just 90, 270, or whatever

let me know if that isn't clear and ill elaborate
Dec 18 2014 8:40AM
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John18_6
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JAHBRADORsw lip to switch = maximum trillness


Sw lip to switch is so icey, it's an easy trick but it feels so hard sometimes...
Dec 18 2014 12:47PM
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theabortionator
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Lipslide = when the rear of the skis/board comes over the rail.

Switch lipslide, going switch and the tips of the skis come over the rail.

Comes from skating bowls/vert
Dec 18 2014 4:31PM
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RubberSoul
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theabortionatorComes from skating bowls/vert


aah, i wondered what the origin was. i like the name but it's not ideal cause noobs always think it means like tailside or something, something involving the lip of your ski/board, which you can't blame them for
Dec 18 2014 5:06PM
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Turner.
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RubberSouland here's an easier/foolproof way to know lipslide: it means you spin away from the rail, whether that spin is just 90, 270, or whatever


The only confusing thing about this is that, personally, I think of spin direction in relation to my tips. So when I think of sw lip, I still feel like I'm spinning "towards" the rail, because that's what my tips are doing. For example, approaching a rail switch, with the rail off my right shoulder, I would spin right and thus "towards" the rail. It's just a matter of forgetting that riding switch means my tails are acting as tips w/r/t spin direction, I think.

And also it's a moot point, cause no matter how you define what direction the spin is, the trick is the same. Phew, anyway, starting to make my brain hurt thinking about this.
Dec 18 2014 5:18PM
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theabortionator
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RubberSoulaah, i wondered what the origin was. i like the name but it's not ideal cause noobs always think it means like tailside or something, something involving the lip of your ski/board, which you can't blame them for


Yeah if you board slide the coping you're just riding on, if you do a lipslide you're pushing the tail over the coping and sliding said coping/lip like that.

It's like the frontside backside thing in snowboarding. It doesn't seem to make sense but makes sense.
People think frontside boardslide is going forward and you're spinning fronstide onto it. It makes sense.

If you approach a rail with your back to it, that's backside, same as surfing a wave backside, or a backside wall in the pipe snowboarding.

Everything kind of draws from skating and surfing. At least in the snowboard world. A lot of skiing draws from snowboarding so it's one big circle jerk in the end.
Dec 18 2014 5:24PM
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RubberSoul
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Turner.The only confusing thing about this is that, personally, I think of spin direction in relation to my tips. So when I think of sw lip, I still feel like I'm spinning "towards" the rail, because that's what my tips are doing. For example,


yeah, so you just have to think of it simply and irrespective of whether youre forward or switch-- you on the left side of the rail? youre spinning left? lipslide

theabortionatorYeah if you board slide the coping you're just riding on, if you do a lipslide you're pushing the tail over the coping and sliding said coping/lip like that.

It's like the frontside backside thing in snowboarding. It doesn't seem to make sense but makes sense.
People think frontside boardslide is going forward and you're spinning fronstide onto it. It makes sense.

If you approach a rail with your back to it, that's backside, same as surfing a wave backside, or a backside wall in the pipe snowboarding.

Everything kind of draws from skating and surfing. At least in the snowboard world. A lot of skiing draws from snowboarding so it's one big circle jerk in the end.


yeah good example, lots of people get confused by the front and backside thing on rails but it makes perfect sense
Dec 19 2014 8:02AM
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