Lady Gabber

As I've said in other lady gabber threads, its a great spot, the few times I've clicked in I've seen some pink names I've never even seen before. Which is awesome. And hopefully they can trickle out into other forums after they get really comfortable with NS and feel like they can post anywhere. Guys play it cool and eventually there will be more pinknames flying around.

The main thing I'd be concerned with is they never come out to the other forums. It's great for the pinknames to have a space to talk among themselves, but isn't the ultimate goal to get a more active female community throughout the forum? It would be real shitty to see the ladies never leave. And even more shitty if the currently active ladies reduce their activity in the rest of the site.




And finally, I think that unknowndeath made some great points.

Bart.ManPrepare for an influx of pinkname aliases

If you make a pinkname alias, you WILL get pregnant and you WILL die.

ERICA.MNIf you make a pinkname alias, you WILL get pregnant and you WILL die.

Not on my watch.

Ba dum tiss

Jaggy_SnakeBad idea in my opinion.

IF a pink name started a thread or posted in a thread bitching/whining about a guy/blue name, said guy/blue name will most likely start a thread in SD or even NSG complaining about the pink name.

I can't see the guy/blue name contacting said pink name or even a mod/admin about it, dealing with it that way...

Lady Gabber should really be only viewable to pink names, female purple names, female orange names, mods and admins.

lady gabber isn't for male shit talking, if you wanna talk shit join a cult, or don't drop names. i was hoping men could be involved in the forum, but the flow is pretty good so far, and they're still involved since it isn't private.

ERICA.MNIf you make a pinkname alias, you WILL get pregnant and you WILL die.

Sigd.

I didn't think this was necessary, and I agree with the one guy with the apparently unpopular opinion. But, participation doesn't lie, and there's quite a few ladies posting up a storm, so I guess the demand and need is higher than I imagined.

I personally hope this is only a short term reality. I can name a dozen female nsers who are some of my absolute favorite posters and further are some of my favorite people. I don't want this to create a schism between men and women in the sport and I am hesitant to embrace anything like this because like it or not it creates division. I just hope as more women here feel confident in posting there, that they bring that self assuredness and confidence to posting EVERYWHERE. I just want the longterm overarching goal to be "foster a culture where no one's perspective is devalued because they're a woman in a male dominated space".

It is depressing and kind of gross that women don't feel good about participating on NS. To me, that's a real problem, and I know that this is less an NS problem and more a world problem (how women are perceived and treated). Can't we as a community take responsibility for the culture here?

I know this is a global site and the population is diffused in such a way where it is functionally impossible to eradicate any and all hostility towards women, but fuckin' A! Influential, outspoken members set the bar here constantly in every way imaginable. If the right people actually give a fuck and speak up and have the ladies back it'll become the cultural norm. I'm not saying we need to patronize the ladies and indulge everything they say (people say dumb things, women included), but if you see a shitty post directed at a woman simply because she's a woman, don't quote and reply "lol", say something.

I'm glad that the rad as fuck ripping women of NS who have been turned off by personal experience with ass holes here now feel safe and comfortable to use NS in the way that I apparently have just taken for granted. But, it is a loss for the community at large if lady gabber "owns" the ladies' energy. If the end result is that we "lose" the ladies to LG, well it stands to reason that things could actually get worse.

I guess I'm just asking that you ladies don't abandon us, and I hope your newfound or rediscovered enthusiasm for contributing extends far beyond lady gabber, because we need that.

My gal has been on NS for at least 5 years and we met here. She is really pumped on LG which was actually shocking to me. Then I thought about the countless occasions when she would spend 20 minutes minutes on a thoughtful reply in some thread to have her well punctuated, logical post dismissed out of hand by some dipshit living in his parent's house because her name is pink. For me, I tell her that it doesn't fucking matter because sensible people are reading her post and evaluating the content alone. But, then I think how I feel when I invest energy into a post and it is trashed out of hand....it feels a bit shitty. When I think about how it would feel or how I'd perceive NS if it happened saily? Fuck. That socks and no wonder very few women bother to post.

That's on us. Let's do better. Why can't NS be on the vanguard of that movement? I'm telling you right now that I'm going to do better.

Casual, as always, with an on point post

casualI didn't think this was necessary, and I agree with the one guy with the apparently unpopular opinion. But, participation doesn't lie, and there's quite a few ladies posting up a storm, so I guess the demand and need is higher than I imagined.

I personally hope this is only a short term reality. I can name a dozen female nsers who are some of my absolute favorite posters and further are some of my favorite people. I don't want this to create a schism between men and women in the sport and I am hesitant to embrace anything like this because like it or not it creates division. I just hope as more women here feel confident in posting there, that they bring that self assuredness and confidence to posting EVERYWHERE. I just want the longterm overarching goal to be "foster a culture where no one's perspective is devalued because they're a woman in a male dominated space".

It is depressing and kind of gross that women don't feel good about participating on NS. To me, that's a real problem, and I know that this is less an NS problem and more a world problem (how women are perceived and treated). Can't we as a community take responsibility for the culture here?

I know this is a global site and the population is diffused in such a way where it is functionally impossible to eradicate any and all hostility towards women, but fuckin' A! Influential, outspoken members set the bar here constantly in every way imaginable. If the right people actually give a fuck and speak up and have the ladies back it'll become the cultural norm. I'm not saying we need to patronize the ladies and indulge everything they say (people say dumb things, women included), but if you see a shitty post directed at a woman simply because she's a woman, don't quote and reply "lol", say something.

I'm glad that the rad as fuck ripping women of NS who have been turned off by personal experience with ass holes here now feel safe and comfortable to use NS in the way that I apparently have just taken for granted. But, it is a loss for the community at large if lady gabber "owns" the ladies' energy. If the end result is that we "lose" the ladies to LG, well it stands to reason that things could actually get worse.

I guess I'm just asking that you ladies don't abandon us, and I hope your newfound or rediscovered enthusiasm for contributing extends far beyond lady gabber, because we need that.

My gal has been on NS for at least 5 years and we met here. She is really pumped on LG which was actually shocking to me. Then I thought about the countless occasions when she would spend 20 minutes minutes on a thoughtful reply in some thread to have her well punctuated, logical post dismissed out of hand by some dipshit living in his parent's house because her name is pink. For me, I tell her that it doesn't fucking matter because sensible people are reading her post and evaluating the content alone. But, then I think how I feel when I invest energy into a post and it is trashed out of hand....it feels a bit shitty. When I think about how it would feel or how I'd perceive NS if it happened saily? Fuck. That socks and no wonder very few women bother to post.

That's on us. Let's do better. Why can't NS be on the vanguard of that movement? I'm telling you right now that I'm going to do better.

I agree. Hope it isnt permanent. With the modding these days they should just ban all the people pulling that stuff. Saying show me your tits to evey girl repeatedly. Im surprised girls even go on tiny chat sometimes. People gotta know when to chill out. People bitch that their arent more girls posting but then act like total immature assholes to the few that do.

Hur hur hur show me your tits hur hur hur.

Idk. Its never going to be perfect but definitely a sitution that could use some improvement.

Funny that the three of you want this to be a better community now that youve been singled out of something.

neutralzombieFunny that the three of you want this to be a better community now that youve been singled out of something.

If you're talking about the above 3 postsers do feel free to kindly shut the hell up #nofilter

neutralzombieFunny that the three of you want this to be a better community now that youve been singled out of something.

wants the site to be more woman friendly...is a bitch when people try.

casualCan't we as a community take responsibility for the culture here?

theabortionatorIf you're talking about the above 3 postsers do feel free to kindly shut the hell up #nofilter

No.

Bitching about there being a woman's forum doesn't make you forward thinking and caring. It makes you a fucking asshole. And it's fucking funny to me when three assholes want a better overall community, and this is the behaviour they pull.

neutralzombieFunny that the three of you want this to be a better community now that youve been singled out of something.

If you feel like you need a place to be alone with other women, that's fine. Like I said before, I didn't know there was such a demand or that the problem was so significant that women members who would ostensibly really like to participate weren't out of fear. That's shitty. I'm glad that people who wouldn't otherwise contribute or participate are, I won't lose sleep over not being able to post in LG, I just don't want current and future awesome female members to sort of just bypass or dismiss other parts of the site or to assume that if there's a specific women's section that they're not welcome or something elsewhere. That could be totally off base, I don't know, this is new and I'm just kind of learning about all of this. I didn't know a thing about the discussion beforehand or that there was a movement to make it happen. In the end, my hope is that ultimately this is the sort of place where no group of PEOPLE feel like the environment as a whole is so hostile, unwelcoming, intimidating, or I don't know what where they feel like creating a homogenous zone is a necessity to enjoy the site. I don't know why you're construing that negatively, but I know people have a lot of feelings about it all, so maybe you feel like what I said was an attack. I don't mean it to be, and I sort of think that you and I aren't so opposed as it appears.

I do though resent you implying that me wanting NS to be a really outstanding place (and I think it is mostly) is new, or that it is a result of me being excluded. I don't really know how people perceive me here, or if I'm perceived much at all, but I feel like there's probably a small handful of people that would vouch that I pretty much have been the way I am and tried to be a "good member" (whatever that even means) since the day I joined. And, now I feel lame as fuck for somehow trying to legitimize my membership or opinions or something, but whatever.

If new people (and old) are flocking to LG and getting excited about NS for the first time or again, than it is win for everyone, and I don't see a single down side. I just don't want to miss out on interacting with cool as shit, badass skier PEOPLE because they're women and they won't post in SG. That's what brought me to NS, to meet likeminded skiers who fucking loved to live this bizarre, frustrating, yet magical life.

neutralzombieBitching about there being a woman's forum doesn't make you forward thinking and caring. It makes you a fucking asshole. And it's fucking funny to me when three assholes want a better overall community, and this is the behaviour they pull.

Hey, I guess.

I'm not invested in sniping back and forth with you, I feel like you're hearing what you want to hear a little bit. But, you're clearly passionate about NS, and that's a good thing bottom line, so I guess I'll just leave it at that.

I don't always agree with casual, but when I do- I really fucking do.

neutralzombieBitching about there being a woman's forum doesn't make you forward thinking and caring. It makes you a fucking asshole. And it's fucking funny to me when three assholes want a better overall community, and this is the behaviour they pull.

Fuck off already. That has nothing to do with you being a girl btw. I dont agree with you so im an asshole? Lol.

Im holding on to the possibility that youre just trolling otherwise you might need to take a nap and try again later.

Deep breaths, deep breaths.

If you scroll through the thread about bullshit females members have experience its fucking ridiculous. And I for one to be fair was sort of against lady gabber being for women only. I just think that if people think it's best for now, let sleeping dogs lie, but men and women alike have a responsibility to treat each other with respect. It's not so much how I feel passionately about Ns but how I think people should interact. I've been a member on this site for a long time, maybe you think I'm stupid, maybe you think I'm a bitch, maybe I'm intimidating, maybe I talk too fucking much, but I don't deserve half the shit that made me leave this site here and there, and sometimes I feel fucking stupid coming back. At the end of the day, I have the right to contribute, be active, and engage, and I don't think my vagina or my tattoos or my body or my language or whatever should hinder or exclude me. And that's something thats affected me on a personal level. This is why this is important, maybe a lot of girls feel this way, maybe it's just me, but it's the point that for some fuckwad to support and preach community peace, to turn around and be a hypocrite is the problem. I'm tired of anti lady gabber threads. Maybe I should just stop clicking them. But enough is enough. Get over it.

theabortionatorFuck off already. That has nothing to do with you being a girl btw. I dont agree with you so im an asshole? Lol.

Im holding on to the possibility that youre just trolling otherwise you might need to take a nap and try again later.

Deep breaths, deep breaths.

I don't really care about your validations, I don't need you to patronize me. Go fucking deal with your sht in real life instead of pissing on people online.

neutralzombieJust stop already. Im havent said anything about your vagina, your tagfoos or whatever else. Where did i say anyone deserves anything? I just posted about how some of the shit people say to pink names is ridiculous but maybe you cant read.

If you want to be taken seriously, maybe you should open with calling people assholes and fuckwads. This has nothing to do with your vagina, just the what youre posting. Im not hating on you for being a girl just asking you to go away until you can play nicely with others.

This isn't a penis vs. Vagina thing. I dont care what you have in your pants, just chill out.
Goodbye

theabortionatorJust stop already. Im havent said anything about your vagina, your tagfoos or whatever else. Where did i say anyone deserves anything? I just posted about how some of the shit people say to pink names is ridiculous but maybe you cant read.

If you want to be taken seriously, maybe you should open with calling people assholes and fuckwads. This has nothing to do with your vagina, just the what youre posting. Im not hating on you for being a girl just asking you to go away until you can play nicely with others.

This isn't a penis vs. Vagina thing. I dont care what you have in your pants, just chill out.
Goodbye

I never said you attacked me for my gender.

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You're right. I'll keep it in the past.

neutralzombieYou're right. I'll keep it in the past.

The problem isn't that you need to keep it in the past, the problem is you think your behavior is OK. Realize that the world is not out to get you, and trying to victimized you.

zzzskizzzThe problem isn't that you need to keep it in the past, the problem is you think your behavior is OK. Realize that the world is not out to get you, and trying to victimized you.

Hahaha what?

neutralzombieHahaha what?

This is exactly what I'm talking about you asshole, how dare you quote my post and then laugh at me. Just because I have a penis in between my legs doesn't mean you shouldn't take me as seriously as if I had a vagina. There is a problem in this country for people like you gang up against me. So they can attack me and make me feel like I'm less of a person. So how dare you be so ignorant and sexist.

Now do you see how a post like that is not only ridiculous, but rude and going to piss the people it was directed at off? or do you still not get it?

Alright, finally posting a question I´ve had since Lady Gabber appeared since I´m actually on a computer for the first time in a couple weeks.

What influenced the decision to allow posting in the forum based on name colour rather than gender selected when registering for the site? It seems weird that those of us that said we were a woman when we registered but unchecked the 'appear as pink' box are barred from posting but I´m assuming there is some logic behind it. Are you phasing out giving ladies a choice of name colour and figure this is a good way to encourage us to switch to pink?

paige.Alright, finally posting a question I´ve had since Lady Gabber appeared since I´m actually on a computer for the first time in a couple weeks.

What influenced the decision to allow posting in the forum based on name colour rather than gender selected when registering for the site? It seems weird that those of us that said we were a woman when we registered but unchecked the 'appear as pink' box are barred from posting but I´m assuming there is some logic behind it. Are you phasing out giving ladies a choice of name colour and figure this is a good way to encourage us to switch to pink?

(As far as I'm aware) The programming has to do with allowing individuals with the pink color ID to post, and cant take into consideration gender selection upon registering. (However they're trying to find a way to allow blue- girls to post).

So no, not trying to phase us all to pink. Simply a flaw in programming they have to figure out.

ERICA.MN(As far as I'm aware) The programming has to do with allowing individuals with the pink color ID to post, and cant take into consideration gender selection upon registering. (However they're trying to find a way to allow blue- girls to post).

So no, not trying to phase us all to pink. Simply a flaw in programming they have to figure out.

In terms of getting this experiment out the door as fast as possible, it was the easiest way to do it rapidly.

As mentioned, we can look at other ways to handle it if it all works out, lasts, etc.