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triss
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http://www.buzzfeed.com/rachelzarrell/if-you-bought-a-red-bull-in-the-last-12-years-they-owe-you-m?bffb&utm_term=4ldqpgp#1b52awq

Pretty interesting, don't know how true it is.

Basically there getting sued because red bull does not give u wings lol
Oct 8 2014 2:44PM
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louie.mirags
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I always LoL when I see people drink energy drinks like red bull, NOS or monster at the gym.


OP why are you reading buzz feed :(
Oct 8 2014 2:52PM
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TurquoiseGrizzly
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Pretty sure RedBull can afford it. Energy drinks are gross anyway.

Coffee and water gives you wings. Maybe pineapple fanta..
Oct 8 2014 3:10PM
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Peach.
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Hahaha the U.S is so fucked.
Oct 8 2014 3:48PM
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eheath
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Sick, $15 in free redbull? I'll take it.
Oct 8 2014 4:06PM
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anyone successfully file a claim yet?
Oct 8 2014 4:29PM
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Lé.Skiing
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If this is legitimate I would think it would be hilarious if redbull came out with a $15 product that is just a pair of cheap fake wings(made out of a couple metal coat hangers and fabric) with a redbull logo on it, and just sent that to everyone as payment of their $15 redbull product.
Oct 8 2014 4:29PM
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congrossman.
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I tried letting all of you know this a week ago but threads were deleted immediately. what is this wizardry
Oct 8 2014 4:34PM
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TurquoiseGrizzly
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Lé.SkiingIf this is legitimate I would think it would be hilarious if redbull came out with a $15 product that is just a pair of cheap fake wings(made out of a couple metal coat hangers and fabric) with a redbull logo on it, and just sent that to everyone as payment of their $15 redbull product.


1. I'd wear it
2. A lot of people would have the same Halloween costume this year
Oct 8 2014 4:34PM
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Bread.
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Doesn't this concern any of you slightly? Maybe its because im going into advertising that this is bugging me so much. If you cant have a slogan you have an incomplete branding. The fact that the law suit is over something which you would assume would be common knowledge for all. Is this the beginning on the end for advertising ?
Oct 8 2014 6:12PM
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toastyteenagers
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make a claim here www.energydrinksettlement.com. it's legit.

how many redbulls is 15 bucks worth?
Oct 8 2014 6:19PM
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louie.mirags
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Bread.Doesn't this concern any of you slightly? Maybe its because im going into advertising that this is bugging me so much. If you cant have a slogan you have an incomplete branding. The fact that the law suit is over something which you would assume would be common knowledge for all. Is this the beginning on the end for advertising ?


Eh not concerned at all...


Red bull gave people false hope. Increased focus and energy? How are they going to say that without scientific proof? Yes the world is full of not so bright people who will believe anything. Yes that is their fault. For example,companies aren't allowed to lie about nutrition facts. But, if they could, you would want to leave it up the consumer to believe a product is protein filled when it's not? Or lie about not having peanuts and then someone dies?
Oct 8 2014 6:20PM
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arnie_grape
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toastyteenagersmake a claim here www.energydrinksettlement.com. it's legit.

how many redbulls is 15 bucks worth?


like 5 of the small ones. in canada the 4 packs are like $11
Oct 8 2014 6:26PM
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toastyteenagers
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cabdriverlike 5 of the small ones. in canada the 4 packs are like $11


Sick!
Oct 8 2014 6:47PM
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Lé.Skiing
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cabdriverin canada the 4 packs are like $11


some places often have them 2 for $4. That was my biggest weakness when I was buying them.
Oct 8 2014 7:05PM
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JGWI
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I guess Red Bull doesnt give you wings.
Oct 8 2014 7:18PM
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theBearJew
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Bread.Doesn't this concern any of you slightly? Maybe its because im going into advertising that this is bugging me so much. If you cant have a slogan you have an incomplete branding. The fact that the law suit is over something which you would assume would be common knowledge for all. Is this the beginning on the end for advertising ?


Im with you. Its such bullshit. I hate the sue culture. Something seems wrong, lemme sue to find out. No shit it doesn't give you wings. And anyone who has tried to drink any energry drink and do something athletic found out the hardway it doesnt work. Bad on you, good on the company.

It just feels idiotic that a company can be sued for their fucking slogan. Same shit happened with Papa Johns and the "Better ingredients better pizza" thus the term "puffery"
Oct 8 2014 8:11PM
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Turd.Ferguson
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~~~~~~~~anyone successfully file a claim yet?


just filed mine this morning. i hope i dont have to prove anything because i unfortunately document my walgreens expenditures
Oct 8 2014 8:51PM
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shitpoop
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Turd.Fergusonjust filed mine this morning. i hope i dont have to prove anything because i unfortunately document my walgreens expenditures


you dont have to. I read some fine print, you dont need to prove your purchase
Oct 8 2014 8:56PM
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250r
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this reminds me of being like 13 years old prank calling red bull saying my brother jumped off my house because he thought red bull gave him wings. haha they actually took the call quite seriously at first, making sure that i had found my brother medical attention
Oct 8 2014 9:21PM
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LukasSchroeder
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~~~~~~~~anyone successfully file a claim yet?


tried to but I'm in canada and they only have american states :/ so i sent an email which is the other option
Oct 8 2014 9:26PM
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cool_name
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Bread.Doesn't this concern any of you slightly? Maybe its because im going into advertising that this is bugging me so much. If you cant have a slogan you have an incomplete branding. The fact that the law suit is over something which you would assume would be common knowledge for all. Is this the beginning on the end for advertising ?


Disclaimer, Haven't really looked in to this

But fairly sure the lawsuit was more about their claims that the drink would offer improvered concentration, energy, and physical performance shit rather than the fact that Ito didn't give you physical wings.
Oct 9 2014 4:08AM
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joesdapoes
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it's not true http://globalflare.com/red-bull-false-advertising-settlement-scam/
Oct 9 2014 5:24AM
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Filet-O-Fish
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pussyfooterSick, $15 in free redbull? I'll take it.


But you wont get it until 150 days after may first 2015.....not really worth it in my opinion.
Oct 9 2014 9:45AM
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congrossman.
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well i filed and hopefully ill get my check, i filed for the company Naked Juices for alleged GMO's in there product and got a check for $2.50 but still.
Oct 9 2014 9:47AM
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neutralzombie
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i found this pretty fucking thick, considering most adds on television always had the small speedy voice saying "redbull will not give you wings, it will improve alertness in body and mind" or whatever mumbojumbo. people really have nothing to do with their spare time.
Oct 9 2014 10:01AM
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congrossman.
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i think its nice redbull wants to give me free product
Oct 9 2014 10:04AM
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.Hugo.
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Filet-O-FishBut you wont get it until 150 days after may first 2015.....not really worth it in my opinion.


Itll be an awesome surprise present. Too bad ill probably have moved by then
Oct 9 2014 10:04AM
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SkierX
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Anyone who files a claim has given up ANY right to complain if Red Bull has to reduce its' funding of any action sports commitments that it makes. As a company that has done SO much for the sport of skiing, among many other non-mainstream sports, these lawsuits are damaging. The losses will impact budgets and will have effects somewhere and marketing budgets are often the easiest places to reduce expenses.

Hope your free cans of Red Bull are worth it...
Oct 9 2014 11:32AM
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neutralzombie
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SkierXAnyone who files a claim has given up ANY right to complain if Red Bull has to reduce its' funding of any action sports commitments that it makes. As a company that has done SO much for the sport of skiing, among many other non-mainstream sports, these lawsuits are damaging. The losses will impact budgets and will have effects somewhere and marketing budgets are often the easiest places to reduce expenses.

Hope your free cans of Red Bull are worth it...


i thought this too. then i also concluded that redbull always gives out free cans, so is this really going to affect them?
Oct 9 2014 12:56PM
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SkierX
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Bottom-line is that the $13 million needs to come from somewhere within the Red Bull budget and the mere fact that this settlement came to fruition is a load of crap from people taking advantage of the legal landscape.

Everyone talks about corporate greed and how damaging it is; this is nothing more than consumer greed and it is just as ugly.
Oct 9 2014 1:20PM
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louie.mirags
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SkierXBottom-line is that the $13 million needs to come from somewhere within the Red Bull budget and the mere fact that this settlement came to fruition is a load of crap from people taking advantage of the legal landscape.

Everyone talks about corporate greed and how damaging it is; this is nothing more than consumer greed and it is just as ugly.


this article may not even be true... relax


also, they sell billions of cans a year. They are worth $7.2B

for what it is worth 13mill is .18% of what they are worth.

They'll be ok I promise :)
Oct 9 2014 1:32PM
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Lé.Skiing
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SkierXBottom-line is that the $13 million needs to come from somewhere within the Red Bull budget and the mere fact that this settlement came to fruition is a load of crap from people taking advantage of the legal landscape.

Everyone talks about corporate greed and how damaging it is; this is nothing more than consumer greed and it is just as ugly.


It definitely is ridiculous I will agree, but if I was a company in this position would do something funny from this point forward. Instead of the tab having a bull on it maybe it should just have a set of wings or something just to shut those few ignorant people up.


If I worked for red bull, and a customer asked me why they did not magically sprout wings after drinking a can. I can honestly say I would probably laugh thinking they have to be joking.
Oct 9 2014 1:47PM
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miroz
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SkierXAnyone who files a claim has given up ANY right to complain if Red Bull has to reduce its' funding of any action sports commitments that it makes. As a company that has done SO much for the sport of skiing, among many other non-mainstream sports, these lawsuits are damaging. The losses will impact budgets and will have effects somewhere and marketing budgets are often the easiest places to reduce expenses.

Hope your free cans of Red Bull are worth it...


Good point, I hadn't thought about this. It's an interesting dilemma for skiers, though - mooch off a company that does a ton for your industry? Or get free product that you like?

...was gonna claim, not anymore. It's probably healthier not to anyway.
Oct 9 2014 1:49PM
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SkierX
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louie.miragsthis article may not even be true... relax


also, they sell billions of cans a year. They are worth $7.2B

for what it is worth 13mill is .18% of what they are worth.

They'll be ok I promise :)



Thank you for proving my point with regards to greed within our culture. By your reasoning it is okay to cash in on large companies where no true damages have occurred simply because "they'll be fine."

Also, the $13 settlement on the class action lawsuit is absolutely positive.
Oct 9 2014 2:01PM
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RubberSoul
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Bread.Doesn't this concern any of you slightly? Maybe its because im going into advertising that this is bugging me so much. If you cant have a slogan you have an incomplete branding. The fact that the law suit is over something which you would assume would be common knowledge for all. Is this the beginning on the end for advertising ?


not that i'd expect an ad major to be interested in facts or reading, but im pretty sure the case is about the false claims of increased focus etc than it is about the wings part

the beginning of the end for the 100+ billion a year ad industry? yeah the end is near man, poor guys...
Oct 9 2014 2:35PM
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Chewy.
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I think it's ridiculous. However, they lost the case, so I still filled it out for the free product.
Oct 9 2014 2:36PM
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RubberSoul
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SkierXThank you for proving my point with regards to greed within our culture. By your reasoning it is okay to cash in on large companies where no true damages have occurred simply because "they'll be fine."

Also, the $13 settlement on the class action lawsuit is absolutely positive.


jesus, you sound like the people who swallow the PR spin responsible for the popular myth that the woman who sued mcdonald's for the hot coffee burns was a frivolous lawsuit.

this 13 million sum will have no noticeable effect on red bull's ADVERTISING in the sports world. advertising works. that is why it's a 100+ billion a year industry. there should be rules governing it, and punishments handed out when they break the rules. i won't be making a claim/getting a refund but you folks feeling sorry for red bull here are delusional
Oct 9 2014 2:43PM
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SkierPT
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I'd like to see what redbull sponsored skiers have to say about this
Oct 9 2014 2:49PM
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youngdtay
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joesdapoesit's not true http://globalflare.com/red-bull-false-advertising-settlement-scam/


Don't understand how so many people are buying this one. How does 15 dollars for everyone who bought a red bull since 2002 somehow equal 13 million dollars? That would mean that not even 1 million people bought a red bull in the last 12 years, and we all know thats not true.
Oct 9 2014 3:05PM
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SkierX
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Yes, $13 million is a small number in the grand scheme of Red Bull, but you are delusional if you believe that figure will absolutely be offset by something within their budgets, whether it be a decrease in marketing spend or some other format.

I'm all for holding companies responsible when actual damages occur and parties are truly taken advantage of (Liebeck v. McDonalds is a good example of this), but a frivolous claim like the one brought about in the Red Bull class action lawsuit serves no one positively other than attorneys.

http://www.aboutlawsuits.com/wp-content/uploads/2013-01-16-Red-Bull-Complaint.pdf

I guess I'm not naive enough to buy that $13 million of profit was yielded from customers that truly believed that they were getting this magic elixir that would make them perform wildly better than other legal products. If that is what truly did happen, then consumers need to stop being so blind and I stand by my belief that we need to stop protecting sheer stupidity.
Oct 9 2014 3:13PM
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RubberSoul
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SkierXYes, $13 million is a small number in the grand scheme of Red Bull, but you are delusional if you believe that figure will absolutely be offset by something within their budgets, whether it be a decrease in marketing spend or some other format.

I'm all for holding companies responsible when actual damages occur and parties are truly taken advantage of (Liebeck v. McDonalds is a good example of this), but a frivolous claim like the one brought about in the Red Bull class action lawsuit serves no one positively other than attorneys.

http://www.aboutlawsuits.com/wp-content/uploads/2013-01-16-Red-Bull-Complaint.pdf

I guess I'm not naive enough to buy that $13 million of profit was yielded from customers that truly believed that they were getting this magic elixir that would make them perform wildly better than other legal products. If that is what truly did happen, then consumers need to stop being so blind and I stand by my belief that we need to stop protecting sheer stupidity.


it's less about protecting stupidity/rewarding the customers that were "duped" and more about punishing the company for doing something against the rules. where would you rather the pay out go?

just to be sure we're clear, the suit is about the claims of increased concentration and shit (the people thinking this court case was actually about wings are retards). but oops, people are misled about this because of false notions being propagated through the media (e.g. sloppy journalism and misleading headlines about wings). it's almost as if misinformation can lead to problems....

why should a company that is misrepresenting their product not be punished? i don't see what alternative there is.

don't feel bad for red bull. they fund some things you like because it makes them more money in the future and in this case they are paying out a tiny fraction of what they make because they broke the rules.

i don't see why you guys seem to want a precedent set where we don't hold companies accountable for claims made in mass media
Oct 9 2014 3:25PM
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Jeebus.
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This kinda lawsuit is exactly why the country has gone to shit, fuck everyone who jumps on board with this shit. You're a retard if you actually thought red bull would give you wings based on their slogan... That being said, you're far more retarded if you think you're entitled to money based on a slogan..
Oct 9 2014 3:26PM
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.Hugo.
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Jeebus.This kinda lawsuit is exactly why the country has gone to shit, fuck everyone who jumps on board with this shit. You're a retard if you actually thought red bull would give you wings based on their slogan... That being said, you're far more retarded if you think you're entitled to money based on a slogan..


Youre a retard because you think the lawsuit is about the wings
Oct 9 2014 3:33PM
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Jeebus.
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.Hugo.Youre a retard because you think the lawsuit is about the wings


Let me clarify, if you thought a sugary drink loaded with corn syrup, chemicals, and other shit, was going to improve your athletic performance, YOURE A FUCKING RETARD. end of story. You aint owed shit
Oct 9 2014 3:40PM
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louie.mirags
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SkierXThank you for proving my point with regards to greed within our culture. By your reasoning it is okay to cash in on large companies where no true damages have occurred simply because "they'll be fine."


Cash in? 15 dollars of free red bull (if this was true) is not exactly cashing in. They give away so much free red bull out! They send a free red bull with every chegg order. Thousands of free red bull.. Once again, they're going to be ok.
Oct 9 2014 3:52PM
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crotchvent
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If any of you have ever been to a red bull event they just give the stuff away brought home a case of red bull from a schlittentag at my hill last year.
Oct 9 2014 3:59PM
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cool_name
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Jeebus.Let me clarify, if you thought a sugary drink loaded with corn syrup, chemicals, and other shit, was going to improve your athletic performance, YOURE A FUCKING RETARD. end of story. You aint owed shit


That is not at all what you meant

Anyways the thought that a caffine drink meant to increase energy could offer improvered athletic performance isn't that ridiculous
Oct 9 2014 4:00PM
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SkierX
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RubberSouljust to be sure we're clear, the suit is about the claims of increased concentration and shit


http://www.aboutlawsuits.com/wp-content/uploads/2013-01-16-Red-Bull-Complaint.pdf

It is more grey than that. The claim stems from the basis that the product gives no more performance boost than a cup of coffee or an alternate source of equivalent caffeine that is available for purchase at a lesser price, something that to the best of my knowledge was never alleged by Red Bull. The lawsuit is a crock of shit basically.

I have not purchased a Red Bull or other such energy drink product in at least six years and have no skin in the game. I just find the opportunistic nature of our society to be pathetic.

**This post was edited on Oct 9th 2014 at 4:05:22pm
Oct 9 2014 4:04PM
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RubberSoul
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Jeebus.chemicals, and other shit,


keep backpedaling and moving the goal posts, it doesn't matter

are you claiming that consumers aren't misled by the advertising? as you said, it's a sugary drink with other "chemicals," the product of which they claim increases focus blah blah blah. are you saying that you think we should expect the average person to know enough about taurine and other chemicals to know that the claims presented arent true?

you must know a lot about it to make that claim so can you do me a favor and go through the list of ingredients in gatorade and explain why it does or doesnt do each thing they claim on commercials? oh, you can't without googling it? you must be a retard!!

a huge company made false claims in ad campaigns and is getting a slap on the wrist and you guys are acting like the sky is falling. no, it's not a huge deal that they misrepresented the facts but it's also not a huge deal that theyre getting punished for it. it's not about john doe getting his 15 dollars, it's about a punishment for breaking the law

you thought this case was actually about WINGS and then youre gonna turn around and call people retards for believing what an ad states?
Oct 9 2014 4:09PM
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RubberSoul
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SkierXhttp://www.aboutlawsuits.com/wp-content/uploads/2013-01-16-Red-Bull-Complaint.pdf

It is more grey than that. The claim stems from the basis that the product gives no more performance boost than a cup of coffee or an alternate source of equivalent caffeine that is available for purchase at a lesser price, something that to the best of my knowledge was never alleged by Red Bull. The lawsuit is a crock of shit basically.

I have not purchased a Red Bull or other such energy drink product in at least six years and have no skin in the game. I just find the opportunistic nature of our society to be pathetic.

**This post was edited on Oct 9th 2014 at 4:05:22pm


how is it that grey?

from the PDF itself: "the red bull defendants state on their web site that "numerous scientific studies on the product and the individual ingredients prove that red bull energy drink: increases performance, increases concentration and reaction speed, improves vigilance, stimulates metabolism, and makes you feel more energetic and thus improves your overall well being."

theyve also claimed taurine has benefits that authorities couldnt find evidence for. that's just what i happen to know

once again, im not saying it's the most important case in the world and i feel strongly about it, but i just have a hard time imagining why you guys are crying foul and imploring us to see red bull as a victim here. don't worry about em
Oct 9 2014 4:19PM
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