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Mr.Sloth
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WHY THE FUCK ISN"T THERE A THREAD ON THIS


Heavily armed police have shut down Ferguson. There is a media blackout. Arresting reporters. The Missouri Militia supposedly has boots on the ground.

This is very fucked.
Aug 14 2014 12:36AM
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Culture+
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i wish that cop would be publicly beaten to death and have his body hung from a pole in the middle of Ferguson
Nov 25 2014 7:20PM
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-emile-
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Culture+i wish that cop would be publicly beaten to death and have his body hung from a pole in the middle of Ferguson


you're a fucking idiot
Nov 25 2014 7:26PM
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cool_name
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Culture+i wish that cop would be publicly beaten to death and have his body hung from a pole in the middle of Ferguson


I have posted a link to the case facts, how about you go there read through that first
Nov 25 2014 7:41PM
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SkiThe603
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DeebieSkeebiesShame on the media for trying to incite riots. Cant believe these are what people consider news in america. People are fucked.


Pretty sure no media outlet was out there screaming for riots to begin. They cover what occurs in the area and the general populace after finding out the decision decided to riot. Yes i agree people are fucked, but that shows how the morals of society are failing. We put in place a system to try and prevent such things but the truth of it is, no matter what outcome happened here...Ferguson is screwed, the cops will never be trusted by a percentage of the population and most of the cops won't trust the people they swore to protect. In the end, this entire incident from the shooting upto last nights riots show how our society is slowing slipping into chaos and someday soon we will hit a point of no return.
Nov 25 2014 7:41PM
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Brule.
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Culture+i wish that cop would be publicly beaten to death and have his body hung from a pole in the middle of Ferguson


Cops are supposed to protect and serve the people of the United States of America. Sure there are a handful of cops that abuse their power, but they're out there protecting people and taking criminals off the streets. The Ferguson incident was not a form of police brutality, clearly. People in Ferguson last night were out rioting in the streets in unnecessary protest that could have been in a form of civil disobedience, but unfortunately it was not. They pillaged their town by burned two cop cars, American flags, and they vandalized buildings.

Whether you like Obama or not, he was right in his speech last night. Violence isn't the answer to violent incidents. What people are doing in Ferguson is wrong. You're a dumbass to think that the police are bad in the United States just by only a handful of cops that take advantage of their power.

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Nov 25 2014 7:42PM
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270on420out
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So when a guy says don't shoot with his hands up after being shot, the correct response is to execute him. Great job protecting and serving the community Officer Wilson.
Nov 25 2014 7:46PM
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shocker611
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Moon_ShoesSo when a guy says don't shoot with his hands up after being shot, the correct response is to execute him. Great job protecting and serving the community Officer Wilson.


They've already proven this wasn't the case. Sit down and shut up
Nov 25 2014 8:01PM
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SkiBum.
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Haha, I get it...it's because he was black right?
Nov 25 2014 8:04PM
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SKI.ING
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Honestly this just reinforces that a pistol is the right option. I don't know much about tasers, but it seems from this video that if you miss you are screwed because you'd be reloading a whole cartridge after you fire. At least that's my understanding.
Nov 25 2014 8:21PM
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SKI.INGI don't know much about tasers, but it seems from this video that if you miss you are screwed because you'd be reloading a whole cartridge after you fire.


That is correct
Nov 25 2014 8:34PM
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JAHpow
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BlurstHe didnt have one on him.

His testimony said that the entire department only had like one taser and that Wilson didnt like carrying it because it was uncomfortable.


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Wait, you pulled the taser argument out when you already knew he wasn't carrying one?

Wow, you really are a smart cookie.
Nov 25 2014 8:37PM
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Ski_Alot
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Mike Brown was shot 12 times, one finally in the head execution style. If he had been shot once or twice, I would side with the officer, but 12 shots is so incredibly excessive
Nov 25 2014 8:42PM
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Bogs
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SkiThe603In the end, this entire incident from the shooting upto last nights riots show how our society is slowing slipping into chaos and someday soon we will hit a point of no return.


You know who else has said this? Tons of people from every generation ever, as far back as human records go. How many times has it actually happened? Zero.

Ski_AlotMike Brown was shot 12 times, one finally in the head execution style. If he had been shot once or twice, I would side with the officer, but 12 shots is so incredibly excessive


Listen to the interview they just had with Officer Wilson, makes a lot more sense and seems much less excessive.
Nov 25 2014 9:01PM
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Culture+
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ill put you in the dirt boy
Nov 25 2014 9:03PM
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JAHpow
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You said he didn't have to reach for his gun. Implying he had a taser, which you apparently knew he didn't. Way to continue contradicting yourself though.
Nov 25 2014 9:30PM
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Ski_Alot
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WattsListen to the interview they just had with Officer Wilson, makes a lot more sense and seems much less excessive.


12?!?!?! that's insane
Nov 25 2014 9:33PM
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milk_man
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Culture+i wish that cop would be publicly beaten to death and have his body hung from a pole in the middle of Ferguson


I wish you would get banned and never sign into newschoolers.com again
Nov 25 2014 9:34PM
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Stose
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So ferguson finds out that Michael Brown has been shot, and they violently riot, even though they really don't have all the facts yet. A jury is presented the facts, finds Officer Wilson legally innocent, and then ferguson goes into more violent riots. Can we not just put a huge glass dome over ferguson?
Nov 25 2014 9:34PM
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toastyteenagers
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guys take your political opinions over to Fox News and maybe you will get a show
Nov 25 2014 9:35PM
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seanahue.
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Ski_Alot12?!?!?! that's insane


12 shots fired, 6 landed, 2 at close-range, 4 more at medium/long-range. 2 of the latter 4 were in the head. Excessive force IMO, regardless if he was fleeing or charging; the dude is a trained marksman.

Feelings on the verdict aside, rioting over it is a selfish choice. It should also be noted that this small minority of selfish individuals are giving an exceptionally poor public image to an African-American community whose vast majority does not agree with or condone their actions. More articles like this should be out there: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/16/ferguson-protesters-guard-stores_n_5684042.html instead of replaying people burning flags and cop cars.
Nov 25 2014 9:50PM
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Turd.Ferguson
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SKI.INGHonestly this just reinforces that a pistol is the right option. I don't know much about tasers, but it seems from this video that if you miss you are screwed because you'd be reloading a whole cartridge after you fire. At least that's my understanding.


well you better not fucking miss...
Nov 25 2014 9:57PM
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Charlie_Kelly
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StoseSo ferguson finds out that Michael Brown has been shot, and they violently riot, even though they really don't have all the facts yet. A jury is presented the facts, finds Officer Wilson legally innocent, and then ferguson goes into more violent riots. Can we not just put a huge glass dome over ferguson?


We should put a glass dome over the people who generalize thousands because of the actions of a few too.

First off, after Brown was initially shot and those riots started it was proven the the majority of looters weren't even from Ferguson, but still the entire city was labelled as rioters/looters.

People saying "Ferguson should be ashamed" or "Ferguson is a disgrace" or whatever just show how ignorant of the situation they actually are. You take the actions of a few hundred people and act like it represents the entire city.

That's like saying everyone in Keene, NH is to blame for the "riot" this year when it really was the actions of maybe a few hundred students.
Nov 25 2014 10:08PM
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Bogs
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Ski_Alot12?!?!?! that's insane


Like I said, listen to the interview.
Nov 25 2014 10:13PM
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Davin
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not every cop has a taser.... they even commented that their department lacked tazers and could not supply Officer Wilson with one. Read before you solve problems in your Utopian society
Nov 25 2014 10:13PM
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SnowshoeThompson
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It's cool guys Al Sharpton is going to make everything better.
Nov 25 2014 10:19PM
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CaptainObvious.
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People are trying to march the fucking interstate in denver. And when the police blocked it so no one died from oh....you know....the fucking cars...they lost their shit.

They just interviewed a couple....they're so. Fucking. Stupid.
Nov 25 2014 11:07PM
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Nov 25 2014 11:24PM
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theBearJew
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Oh yea, and this happened. WTF Seattle.



http://mikereport.wordpress.com/2014/11/24/and-now-they-blame-ferguson-on-the-jews/
Nov 25 2014 11:28PM
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cobra_commander
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we have a special type of stupid here
Nov 25 2014 11:37PM
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cobra_commanderwe have a special type of stupid here


Your cynicism might be my favorite part of it.
Nov 25 2014 11:45PM
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cool_name
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seanahue.12 shots fired, 6 landed, 2 at close-range, 4 more at medium/long-range. 2 of the latter 4 were in the head. Excessive force IMO, regardless if he was fleeing or charging; the dude is a trained marksman.


in that kind of situation cops are trained to fire multiple shots, not at all excessive
Nov 26 2014 12:09AM
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Scaredwhiteboy
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louie.miragsI feel ya and what you're getting at. But, the black community deals with a lot more than just this one incident. For example:


That is off subject but they feel targeted and that feeling must suck. Especially when the police are there to protect and serve. Why does a small group of these people loot in this scenario or any other scenario I have no idea...


There is no way that bar on the right is only 3.7x bigger than the one on the left. That's some seriously duplicitous chart making right there.
Nov 26 2014 12:56AM
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seanahue.
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cool_namein that kind of situation cops are trained to fire multiple shots, not at all excessive


if they're so well trained, then he should have given him two in the kneecaps and one in the dick. the number of shots isn't the excessive part, the part where he shoots him twice in the head is.
Nov 26 2014 1:05AM
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Utard
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This is an honest question for you all, not trying to be sarcastic or anything, but how many of you know what a grand jury is/how it works?
Nov 26 2014 1:16AM
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louie.mirags
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ScaredwhiteboyThere is no way that bar on the right is only 3.7x bigger than the one on the left. That's some seriously duplicitous chart making right there.


definitely, I didn't study it too much. The sources are out there to prove the numbers though. I was just showing a reason that the black community would be upset with law enforcement for more reasons than this case.
Nov 26 2014 8:36AM
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270on420out
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shocker611They've already proven this wasn't the case. Sit down and shut up


Ok. So he was assaulted in his vehicle. But rather than hitting the gas and driving a safe distance away, then arresting him, he decided "fuck it I'll just execute him instead".
Nov 26 2014 9:11AM
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Moon_ShoesOk. So he was assaulted in his vehicle. But rather than hitting the gas and driving a safe distance away, then arresting him, he decided "fuck it I'll just execute him instead".


I am not sold on shooting him as the answer but driving away and abandoning his oath to protect the community to not the answer. What if he would of went on a rampage and hurt civilians? Then, the cop would be way wrong.. When is driving away from the criminal ever an answer?
Nov 26 2014 9:14AM
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270on420out
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louie.miragsI am not sold on shooting him as the answer but driving away and abandoning his oath to protect the community to not the answer. What if he would of went on a rampage and hurt civilians? Then, the cop would be way wrong.. When is driving away from the criminal ever an answer?


No drive a safe distance away, THEN arrest him
Nov 26 2014 9:18AM
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Charlie_Kelly
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louie.miragsI am not sold on shooting him as the answer but driving away and abandoning his oath to protect the community to not the answer. What if he would of went on a rampage and hurt civilians? Then, the cop would be way wrong.. When is driving away from the criminal ever an answer?


I think he means driving out of the immediate danger (aka pulling away before Brown could have grabbed his gun) and then getting out and taking control of the situation. He wouldn't be abandoning anyone and would have been less likely to discharge his firearm.
Nov 26 2014 9:19AM
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louie.mirags
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Granite_StateI think he means driving out of the immediate danger (aka pulling away before Brown could have grabbed his gun) and then getting out and taking control of the situation. He wouldn't be abandoning anyone and would have been less likely to discharge his firearm.


I mean I can see that somewhat in hindsight but that isn't going to make a 300lb man easier to arrest. What every cop needs is a taser.
Nov 26 2014 9:26AM
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Charlie_Kelly
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louie.miragsI mean I can see that somewhat in hindsight but that isn't going to make a 300lb man easier to arrest. What every cop needs is a taser.


I agree, but the ultra conservative people in this thread think non-lethal force isn't effective in bringing down a large man...
Nov 26 2014 9:33AM
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Nov 26 2014 10:49AM
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Culture+
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no this thing is fucked

why is it every time there is a news story dealing with another guy(black or whatever) gets killed unarmed by police. america has problems with racism and law enforcement. we tend to favor white over other races in all instances; socioeconomic discrimination. Law enforcement is fucking backwards in this country, you have good cops that follow every power given by law to protect and serve. Then, you have cops who are so trigger happy that they wait for the next unarmed white,black, or brown kid to pump full of lead. The whole situation is complicated and fucked up and the same time.

Fuck that cop let em hang see how his family feels for a god damn change
Nov 26 2014 10:55AM
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louie.mirags
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Culture+no this thing is fucked

why is it every time there is a news story dealing with another guy(black or whatever) gets killed unarmed by police. america has problems with racism and law enforcement. we tend to favor white over other races in all instances; socioeconomic discrimination. Law enforcement is fucking backwards in this country, you have good cops that follow every power given by law to protect and serve. Then, you have cops who are so trigger happy that they wait for the next unarmed white,black, or brown kid to pump full of lead. The whole situation is complicated and fucked up and the same time.

Fuck that cop let em hang see how his family feels for a god damn change


agreed for the most part
Nov 26 2014 11:10AM
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J.D.
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I dunno guys that cop's testimony seemed pretty reasonable. I mean, maybe he was lying but I'd leave it to the people actually there and listening to him to make that judgment call.
Nov 26 2014 11:12AM
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louie.mirags
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J.D.I dunno guys that cop's testimony seemed pretty reasonable. I mean, maybe he was lying but I'd leave it to the people actually there and listening to him to make that judgment call.


I worked in a police dept as a dispatcher and there were def some stand-up dudes there. There was also a few young cops who would mention how they couldn't wait for a thug to get out of line so they could fight em or taser them. It is a ego/alpha trait. One cop was even in some hot water for abuse to a criminal. I also have a NYPD buddy who is on a few youtube police brutality videos and his situation is not great either. I would embed the video but they will get your blood boiling. Whether you back the cop for getting physical or you back the people for getting pissed, the videos are hard to watch. My main point is some people do not mind when criminals get beat up on, or shot. However, our legal system is there to handle the penalties for the criminals. Being ok with cops abusing their power via violence is scary.
Nov 26 2014 11:19AM
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SKI.INGHonestly this just reinforces that a pistol is the right option. I don't know much about tasers, but it seems from this video that if you miss you are screwed because you'd be reloading a whole cartridge after you fire. At least that's my understanding.


I'm sure in a few years if taser became the standers for cops they wouldnt fix that problem......
Nov 26 2014 11:22AM
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