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Can't believe this thread isn't blowing up about rampage, Sorge and Zink fucking sent, if Zink didn't crash his second run he would have won. This also leads me to this question, I'm planning on buying a new dh bike and I can't decide between a YT Tues or a Polygon Collosus DH, any thoughts?

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sickskiCan't believe this thread isn't blowing up about rampage, Sorge and Zink fucking sent, if Zink didn't crash his second run he would have won. This also leads me to this question, I'm planning on buying a new dh bike and I can't decide between a YT Tues or a Polygon Collosus DH, any thoughts?

Haven't had any time to watch the recaps, aside from Sorge's run and the practice run shots. Sorge killed it, but as both a nature nerd and someone who's been watching Rampage since the beginning, I'm not a huge fan of how they just destroy the mountain side in order to manicure their lines. I'd rather see smaller hits off natural lines than huge tricks off manicured jumps. Some of the videos of them absolutely destroying the mountain side for the sake of making a big jump that only gets used, maybe once a year just bothered me. Still a fan and love watching, but that's my 2 cents.

Also, that's a tough call, but I'd vote for the Tues. Neither of those bikes are made small enough for me, so I haven't ridden them but if Tippie and Lacondeguy and Gwin can ride it, so can you.

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sickskiCan't believe this thread isn't blowing up about rampage, Sorge and Zink fucking sent, if Zink didn't crash his second run he would have won. This also leads me to this question, I'm planning on buying a new dh bike and I can't decide between a YT Tues or a Polygon Collosus DH, any thoughts?

I rode a carbon Tues at mountain creek a few weeks about and it was easily the best bike I've ever ridden. I felt more comfortable railing berms after 2 runs then I did after putting 200 days on a demo 8 on the same trails over the past few years.. and I loved my s-works demo. The Tues was full Fox Factory float, front and rear, which is my go to combo at this point.

Also, take a look at the Furious. Commencal did a great job bringing a very quality 'budget' build to the downhill world. You can get a Furious with Fox Factory front and rear with Guide RS brakes for 4k.. hard to beat that.

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PBraunsteinAlso, take a look at the Furious. Commencal did a great job bringing a very quality 'budget' build to the downhill world. You can get a Furious with Fox Factory front and rear with Guide RS brakes for 4k.. hard to beat that.

scratch that.. they have 2018s out now.. for 4,300 you can get Code Rs and an E13/formula wheelset.. I think I may have found my next bike https://www.commencalusa.com/furious-race-650b-brushed-2018-c2x23712423

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Anyone else been enjoying some good night riding lately? Up until about a week ago the nights were stupid nice to be out after supper.

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NinetyFourAnyone else been enjoying some good night riding lately? Up until about a week ago the nights were stupid nice to be out after supper.

Nah just mid day riding. Dirt is great, colors are pretty, air is crisp and cool.

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What do you guys use to hang/store your bikes? I was was looking for something to hang both my bikes in my storage closet and basically ended up drilling 8 holes in my wall for nothing. I bought two of these, and they're absolute crap. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M0W0L8V/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 The only one that works arrived broken, and the other is currently just holding a spare tire of mine because I can't get my DH bike into the hook because the hook wont' stay up by itself and my DH wheel has too big of a profile to fit into the hook, even at an angle.

My amazon review of them: "Bought two of these because of the good reviews. Highly regretting that decision now. It came with no instructions (aside from the instructions here on Amazon), came wrapped in thin bubble tape with zero branding or anything. The hinge on the hook on one of them arrived bent/broken. Ironically, the fact that it came broken is the only reason it even works (because the broken hinge allows the hook to stay somewhat upright while attempting to hang my bike). The "adjustable" hook doesn't stay up by itself, so it's nearly impossible to hang a bike above your head without help from someone else. You have to hold the bike up with one hand, then somehow hold the hook up with the other hand, then wiggle the wheel so it fits into the hook. My downhill bike is simply too heavy to do this maneuver with, not to mention that the wheels on my downhill bike don't even fit in the hook, no matter what angle you try to fit it in. I managed to get my trail bike into the one with the broken hinge wihtout help from someone else, but that was only because the hinge came bent/broken, as I mentioned above. Two of the 4 screws it came with broke while drilling holes, forcing me to use only two of the four mounting holes."

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.lenconNah just mid day riding. Dirt is great, colors are pretty, air is crisp and cool.

Had a night ride where it was starting to cool off after a 20°C fall day (which is rare here) and it was so fucking neat. A change in like 5 metres of elevation made for a totally different temperature. The high spots were like 18°C and the lows were almost down around 7°C. If you ride some really up and down stuff it was just a constant temperature change, felt out of this world different.

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ThaLoraxWhat do you guys use to hang/store your bikes?

I use a combination of Superstands;

and Park Tool hooks in the oversize and extra large sizes for tires/wheels/bikes including fatbikes;

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Ha i went for a quick ride through my local trails. Its alllll leaves. Can't see the trail at all. And you make a lot of noise riding trhough that so all the deer freak out and run around.

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So now that the biking season has come to an end here Im starting to prepare for next season. I got into downhill this year and two things that I have been struggling with has been back and finger pain so I really want to do what I can to minimize these problems before next year. The back problems is something I struggle with in other situations to and I think doing allot of core/back exercises will help with that (any tips for good exercises would be great) but I also want to work on my finger/wrist strength. Was wondering if anyone has any experience using these hand grips for the same reason? Remember some friends that was into trials used to use them so been thinking it would be a great exercise for downhill riding to.

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Mar-OSo now that the biking season has come to an end here Im starting to prepare for next season. I got into downhill this year and two things that I have been struggling with has been back and finger pain so I really want to do what I can to minimize these problems before next year. The back problems is something I struggle with in other situations to and I think doing allot of core/back exercises will help with that (any tips for good exercises would be great) but I also want to work on my finger/wrist strength. Was wondering if anyone has any experience using these hand grips for the same reason? Remember some friends that was into trials used to use them so been thinking it would be a great exercise for downhill riding to.

I'm not exactly sure how to describe this, but it's a stretch sorta thing that really helps strengthen your fingers and wrists, I'll post a picture of it if I find it.

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Dropper is on it's way, then just need a saddle, pedals, a clamp for my shifter, get my wheels built, trim a few things and summer to come back. It's going to be a really long winter...

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saskskierIt's going to be a really long winter...

I hope so. This is a ski site after-all...

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PBraunsteinI rode a carbon Tues at mountain creek a few weeks about and it was easily the best bike I've ever ridden. I felt more comfortable railing berms after 2 runs then I did after putting 200 days on a demo 8 on the same trails over the past few years.. and I loved my s-works demo. The Tues was full Fox Factory float, front and rear, which is my go to combo at this point.

Also, take a look at the Furious. Commencal did a great job bringing a very quality 'budget' build to the downhill world. You can get a Furious with Fox Factory front and rear with Guide RS brakes for 4k.. hard to beat that.

Well if I get a Tues it's gonna be the stock aluminum version because I'm broke. how did it feel on jumps?

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I hate my Talon 3. I need a full sus

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division.bellI use a combination of Superstands;

and Park Tool hooks in the oversize and extra large sizes for tires/wheels/bikes including fatbikes;

Thanks, I'll look into that wide hook in the 2nd pic. I got Amazon to give me a refund and I'm keeping them, so I can use the broken one (ironically) for long term storage and the one that didn't come broken for storing one of my spare wheels i guess? How did you drill the hole for the hook to screw in? Does it come with a mounting kit?

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sickskiWell if I get a Tues it's gonna be the stock aluminum version because I'm broke. how did it feel on jumps?

Felt very predictable and playful.. Super easy to manual for me (I'm used to a short chain-stay bike ie. demo 8 and giant reign). The bike had a fox float (with an upgraded damper) in the front and an dhx2 coil in the rear which is my ideal set up for a dh rig, so to me, it was awesome on the jumps.

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Someone help me out, I’ve ridden lift access at vail, beaver creek, and whiteface. Two days on a DH bike and on an all mountain one. I like the way DH bikes ride way better but may not be close enough to lift access trails next year in college for a DH bike to be worth it. I’m trying to find an enduro that excels at downhill and off drops but can still do a little climbing when necessary. If someone can point me in the right direction or tell me what to look for in a bike (I’ll prob be getting one used on pinkbike or something) that’d be awesome. Thanks to anyone willing to give some bike advice

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mmccarthy81Someone help me out, I’ve ridden lift access at vail, beaver creek, and whiteface. Two days on a DH bike and on an all mountain one. I like the way DH bikes ride way better but may not be close enough to lift access trails next year in college for a DH bike to be worth it. I’m trying to find an enduro that excels at downhill and off drops but can still do a little climbing when necessary. If someone can point me in the right direction or tell me what to look for in a bike (I’ll prob be getting one used on pinkbike or something) that’d be awesome. Thanks to anyone willing to give some bike advice

When I moved out to Utah, I quickly realized that the lack of bike parks and gnarly, full send terrain (at least in the salt lake area) did not require the need for a dh bike. Most good dh trails around here, you need to pedal to get to, so i sold my dh bike and bought a giant reign 1. The reign would fall right in the category that you're looking for, as well as a plethora of other bikes. I would just look for a 160-170 travel bike with a more dh leaning geo (ie. the reign, capra, meta v4.2). All ive done to my reign is shorten the stem, throw on dh bars and get rid of the god awful schwables that came stock and replaced them with some butchers (2.6 in the front, 2.4 in the rear) and I pretty much feel like I'm on a dh bike

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mmccarthy81Someone help me out, I’ve ridden lift access at vail, beaver creek, and whiteface. Two days on a DH bike and on an all mountain one. I like the way DH bikes ride way better but may not be close enough to lift access trails next year in college for a DH bike to be worth it. I’m trying to find an enduro that excels at downhill and off drops but can still do a little climbing when necessary. If someone can point me in the right direction or tell me what to look for in a bike (I’ll prob be getting one used on pinkbike or something) that’d be awesome. Thanks to anyone willing to give some bike advice

Oh man, there's sooooo many bikes that fit the description of what you're looking for. Keep an eye on pinkbike, like you said. You can even create a search and save it on there so you can bo back to that exact search and narrow it down by what you're looking for. That's where I've pretty much every bike I've owned. That said, I'm now super biased towards my Ibis Mojo HD, so you should get one of those.

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ThaLoraxThanks, I'll look into that wide hook in the 2nd pic. I got Amazon to give me a refund and I'm keeping them, so I can use the broken one (ironically) for long term storage and the one that didn't come broken for storing one of my spare wheels i guess? How did you drill the hole for the hook to screw in? Does it come with a mounting kit?

No mounting kit. I bought the woodscrew versions so essentially they are self-tapping wood screws, but are much easier to mount into a stud with a smaller pilot hole. I have mounted them just using brute force with no issues, but I would recommend using a drill with a bit that has a smaller diameter than the screw shaft to make life much, much easier. It's not rocket science and doesn't need to be exact, any drill bit with a smaller diameter shaft than the screw itself will make your life way easier. Especially if you are going through drywall and stud like I was.

They are dirt cheap too. Highly recommended.

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division.bellNo mounting kit. I bought the woodscrew versions so essentially they are self-tapping wood screws, but are much easier to mount into a stud with a smaller pilot hole. I have mounted them just using brute force with no issues, but I would recommend using a drill with a bit that has a smaller diameter than the screw shaft to make life much, much easier. It's not rocket science and doesn't need to be exact, any drill bit with a smaller diameter shaft than the screw itself will make your life way easier. Especially if you are going through drywall and stud like I was.

They are dirt cheap too. Highly recommended.

Appreciate the response. I shall do this.

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PBraunsteinWhen I moved out to Utah, I quickly realized that the lack of bike parks and gnarly, full send terrain (at least in the salt lake area) did not require the need for a dh bike. Most good dh trails around here, you need to pedal to get to, so i sold my dh bike and bought a giant reign 1. The reign would fall right in the category that you're looking for, as well as a plethora of other bikes. I would just look for a 160-170 travel bike with a more dh leaning geo (ie. the reign, capra, meta v4.2). All ive done to my reign is shorten the stem, throw on dh bars and get rid of the god awful schwables that came stock and replaced them with some butchers (2.6 in the front, 2.4 in the rear) and I pretty much feel like I'm on a dh bike

Thanks, I’ve looked at capras actually but needed to hear from someone that bikes like that are actually capable on some decently intense downhill. Also just noticed you said mountain creek before and I’d be riding there when I’m home in the summers. I live like 40 minutes away so I ski there on south every week.

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mmccarthy81Thanks, I’ve looked at capras actually but needed to hear from someone that bikes like that are actually capable on some decently intense downhill. Also just noticed you said mountain creek before and I’d be riding there when I’m home in the summers. I live like 40 minutes away so I ski there on south every week.

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ThaLoraxOh man, there's sooooo many bikes that fit the description of what you're looking for. Keep an eye on pinkbike, like you said. You can even create a search and save it on there so you can bo back to that exact search and narrow it down by what you're looking for. That's where I've pretty much every bike I've owned. That said, I'm now super biased towards my Ibis Mojo HD, so you should get one of those.

Just googled it, that bikes hot

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mmccarthy81Someone help me out, I’ve ridden lift access at vail, beaver creek, and whiteface. Two days on a DH bike and on an all mountain one. I like the way DH bikes ride way better but may not be close enough to lift access trails next year in college for a DH bike to be worth it. I’m trying to find an enduro that excels at downhill and off drops but can still do a little climbing when necessary. If someone can point me in the right direction or tell me what to look for in a bike (I’ll prob be getting one used on pinkbike or something) that’d be awesome. Thanks to anyone willing to give some bike advice

I'm gonna recommend the Norco Aurum c7.3 it actually pedals really well

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mmccarthy81Just googled it, that bikes hot

I've ridden lift access DH in both Colorado and Austria with it. It climbs like a goat and flows DH like water. If you want a bowling ball on the DH, that's what DH bikes are for.

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ThaLoraxI've ridden lift access DH in both Colorado and Austria with it. It climbs like a goat and flows DH like water. If you want a bowling ball on the DH, that's what DH bikes are for.

If I could afford two bikes I’d have a DH but I need something that can actually pedal sometimes. TBH though I wouldn’t mind killing my legs a little bit more for an enduro that seriously kicks ass going downhill

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You'll be more than fine on nearly any 150-160mm "enduro" frame.

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sickskiI'm gonna recommend the Norco Aurum c7.3 it actually pedals really well

Wait are you serious?

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ThaLoraxYou'll be more than fine on nearly any 150-160mm "enduro" frame.

Yeah I’m probably being too nervous ab it bc the enduro bike rental I used once was probably trash and made me skeptical about them

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mmccarthy81Wait are you serious?

Seriously, if youre not going for long cross country rides it's great. It is probably the best downhill bike I've been on when it comes to pedaling. It will be a little heavier than an enduro/all mountain, but it is definitely worth it on the downhill

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sickskiSeriously, if youre not going for long cross country rides it's great. It is probably the best downhill bike I've been on when it comes to pedaling. It will be a little heavier than an enduro/all mountain, but it is definitely worth it on the downhill

Where do you typically ride? I love downhill bikes but need something that can function without a chair lift

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mmccarthy81Where do you typically ride? I love downhill bikes but need something that can function without a chair lift

I live at Winter Park Colorado, I ride the bike park (trestle) and I also ride the local trails.

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mmccarthy81Yeah I’m probably being too nervous ab it bc the enduro bike rental I used once was probably trash and made me skeptical about them

Don't listen to that guy saying the Aurum will be a good trail bike. The gains on the downhill do not outweigh the pains of the uphill. Get a 150-165mm frame. I wish I wasn't a size small or XS. There's so many rad bikes for sale in that category in Medium and Large on Pinkbike.

Speaking of that, if anybody knows of someone 5'5" or shorter who is looking for a mtn bike, I'm selling my Turner 5 Spot.

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ThaLoraxDon't listen to that guy saying the Aurum will be a good trail bike. The gains on the downhill do not outweigh the pains of the uphill. Get a 150-165mm frame. I wish I wasn't a size small or XS. There's so many rad bikes for sale in that category in Medium and Large on Pinkbike.

Speaking of that, if anybody knows of someone 5'5" or shorter who is looking for a mtn bike, I'm selling my Turner 5 Spot.

Yeah I'm gonna look for a 160-165mm frame with a decent head angle and some fat tires. Thanks for the help

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mmccarthy81Thanks, I’ve looked at capras actually but needed to hear from someone that bikes like that are actually capable on some decently intense downhill. Also just noticed you said mountain creek before and I’d be riding there when I’m home in the summers. I live like 40 minutes away so I ski there on south every week.

If you havent yet riden a bike at Mountain Creek, I highly suggest doing everything in your power to do so. That place is a diamond in the rough, and biking is basically the only thing there worth anyone times. This coming from someone who slapped dirt and taught dh lessons for the past 3 seasons there (and I was building rails for them in the winter), but Creek is where i cut my teeth on a bike, as well as a plethora of other really fast dudes on a bikes (Aaron Chase, Richie Rude, George Ryan etc).

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PBraunsteinIf you havent yet riden a bike at Mountain Creek, I highly suggest doing everything in your power to do so. That place is a diamond in the rough, and biking is basically the only thing there worth anyone times. This coming from someone who slapped dirt and taught dh lessons for the past 3 seasons there (and I was building rails for them in the winter), but Creek is where i cut my teeth on a bike, as well as a plethora of other really fast dudes on a bikes (Aaron Chase, Richie Rude, George Ryan etc).

If I don't get a bike before the bike park closes there I already planned on renting and going the last weekend or two with my friend who BMX's anyway. I talked to some dudes in a Burlington bike shop about how I'd be riding at Creek when I was looking at bikes over the summer and they all said I was lucky to live close to it. I was surprised they knew about it and that they said how nice their bike park was so I've actually been itching to go.

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Thinking about buying a second hand Commencal supreme dh v4 race from their website. Does anyone know the difference between the race and the essential version? Website says both frames are "NEC + ULTRA XTRM (Aluminium 7005 Triple Butted)." Commencal confuses me

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https://www.commencalusa.com/-supreme-dh-v4-race-rockshox-yellow-2016-l-c2x24047061
https://www.commencalusa.com/supreme-dh-v4-essential-2016-l-c2x24621248

To make things easier can someone just tell me the difference between these two bikes so I know whether its worth spending the extra $300?

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Has anyoone here rode the commencal furious and if you have did you go with the boxxer or fox suspension. I'm pretty set on this bike and but can't make up my mind about whether or not fox is worth the extra money

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My one question, how might one be able to have enough money to both Mountain Bike AND Ski, AND Travel to Mtn Bike and Ski? I can only afford to ski as of right now, but even I work for resort to get free season pass and passes to other resorts. I don't just have the few grand laying around to get a reliable Mtn Bike. Do you get the money from your parents, or what's the deal on that? I don't want to hurt any feelings just wondering why I always have to demo a mtn bike when there has to be a secret way to be able to get a brand new bike with new parts every year or so.

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aideey10Has anyoone here rode the commencal furious and if you have did you go with the boxxer or fox suspension. I'm pretty set on this bike and but can't make up my mind about whether or not fox is worth the extra money

just depends on how stiff you want your fork to be. For instance, if you ride moto you’ll love it. If you’re newer to downhilling or just can’t tell the difference (not everyone can) a boxxer will treat you plenty well and keep it lighter.

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