Atomic Overload 100/120 in 24.5

Thanks for the support, glad you are stoked on the Overloads otherwise!

As you and other guys/gals on NS have noticed, sizing is a difficult thing, whether it is ski sizing or boots. Some skis don't run long enough, some boots aren't offered small enough and I totally hear you.

It's not that we hate skiers with small feet or anything like that but simply because we have to produce a minimum quantity per size and on the 24/25.5 we simply don't have enough current demand to warrant making them. The molds totally exist, but the demand doesn't. So unfortunately, you will not see a 24.5 Overload 100/120 in the 14/15 season.

How could we change this? The easiest and the best way is to go to (or call) your local shop and demand that they offer more boots in 24.5. The dealer is your main barrier here and if they don't order it, you'll never see it. So, please be vocal about it at your local shop and hopefully we can offer that size in the future!

onenerdykidwe have to produce a minimum quantity per size and on the 24/25.5

that should read 24/24.5*

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Firstly thank you so much for the reply, I totally understand why you wouldn't make 24.5 the amount of skiers with such small feet who want a 100+ flex boot is probably tiny so I fully understand why the demand is so small.

The problem I have is not my feet but my location, I live in Auckland New Zealand and the nearest mountain is 5 hours away, the amount of freeskiers here in Auckland is very small. So generally shops stock very little freeride and freestyle boots and even less mens 24.5 boots. The shops here will order stuff for me if I force them but would rather try and sell me a boot that is too big. So I always try buy overseas or in the South Island because the shops are bigger and the fitters are better but this means I only have the chance to try what they have and not order.

Anyway rant over, how would I go about stiffening up my Overload 70's? Not and insane amount just a little bit of extra stiffness for butters and presses as well as cliffs and big jumps.

But seriously thank you so much for taking the time to read my post and responding, massive respect to Atomic and yourself!

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Firstly thank you so much for the reply, I totally understand why you wouldn't make 24.5 the amount of skiers with such small feet who want a 100+ flex boot is probably tiny so I fully understand why the demand is so small.

The problem I have is not my feet but my location, I live in Auckland New Zealand and the nearest mountain is 5 hours away, the amount of freeskiers here in Auckland is very small. So generally shops stock very little freeride and freestyle boots and even less mens 24.5 boots. The shops here will order stuff for me if I force them but would rather try and sell me a boot that is too big. So I always try buy overseas or in the South Island because the shops are bigger and the fitters are better but this means I only have the chance to try what they have and not order.

Anyway rant over, how would I go about stiffening up my Overload 70's? Not and insane amount just a little bit of extra stiffness for butters and presses as well as cliffs and big jumps.

But seriously thank you so much for taking the time to read my post and responding, massive respect to Atomic and yourself!

I'm always keen to help when I can! But you are in an area of the world where it is more difficult than usual to get ski equipment...

In terms of stiffening up your current boot, it is a bit more difficult than usual. The cuff is already locked to the shell (which is the standard way to make a boot stiffer) so we can't do that trick. A race-inspired boot fitting shop should have cuff stiffeners, but those are designed to fit with a 2-buckle cuff, and your cuff has 1-buckle. They could see if they could make one of those fit and it would stiffen your cuff up about 10-15%.

Other possible options for stiffening the boot could be footbeds, liners and boot board adaptions. One of the best way to make the boots feel stiffer is a good custom footbed. This may sound strange as how could surporting the bottom of your foot make the boots feel stiffer, but it's due to cutting down movement. Often if a foot is slowed to pronate in the boot the boot will feel softer. getting the foot into neutral and preventing it from moving in the boot can significantly help with making the boots feel stiffer.

Changing the liners could also be an option. A foam injection liner for example could stiffen the boot as the foam will fill all the little gaps which in turn cut down the movement in te boots again making them feel stiffer.

You could also have your footbeds/boot boards adapted to make it so your toe is higher then the heel. It's a bit of an old racer trick an I don't often do it but it's a possibility.

With regards to boots and sizes I must agree with Matt and say it would really help if more shops stocked smaller boots. What would help this is if more people go to shops to get fitted. shops need to have a demand for boots and most people buying online buy big so this makes shops think big boots are what is wanted. Really most boots I sell are 24-26. It's getting better I think but still could get better.

Lastly op take a look at the waymaker 110womans boot. Same fit (almost) as the overload but you will be able to get them in 24.

Ok thank you for the help and replies. I have a custom made Sidas footbed already, I can't ski without them they make a huge difference.

I have heard very mixed/different ideas about wearing womens boots. Some of the boot fitters I have been to have told me not to because they're not supportive enough for skiing super hard and fast and they fit differently to mens boots however some say it's a possibilty.

Also this is probably a super noob question but is using a walk mode boot in the park alright? I've read on a forum post a while ago that were the switch is to swap from walk to ski mode creates a weak point in the back of the boot so it flexes more especially on big switch landings? Is this true?

Thanks for the help

Good choice on the footbeds.

As for woman's boots it I not always as simple as saying they will or won't work. In general smaller guys will have no problems I woman's boots. Take your overload 70 and a waymaker carbon 110 woman's boot. Obviously you will be able to ski far harder in the woman's boot of those two. Fit wise the cuff will be slightly lower on a woman's model but other then that they will be pretty close. We sold quite a few woman's waymakers to guys this season as the company I worked for only took the men's waymaker down to size 26.

As for the waymaker in the park it will work. I ski the waymaker 130 and have had no issue with the walk mode. However of you are worried you could look at getting the redster 100pro. I'll have to check but I'm pretty sure they go to 24. It a narrower last out of the box then a overload but it does have memory shell meaning you should be able to get them to fit the same as the overload. So may be an option too.

Just checked you should be good size wise in the redster and the waymaker woman's boot I was talking about is 100 not 110.

Thanks for all the help Tom, last question and then I'm done, next year I'm going to Copper Mtn and will probably look at getting fitted do you of any good fitters/shops around the area? I don't mind taking a day and going into town to get fitted.

There is Surefoot but I've heard a lot of negative things about them so I'd probably avoid them.

rs2sThanks for all the help Tom, last question and then I'm done, next year I'm going to Copper Mtn and will probably look at getting fitted do you of any good fitters/shops around the area? I don't mind taking a day and going into town to get fitted.

There is Surefoot but I've heard a lot of negative things about them so I'd probably avoid them.

No I don't I'm afraid but Matt worked I the states before so he may know someone.