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kylemclean
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What park/all mountain skis have the best edge hold on both groomers and ice
May 25 2014 7:54PM
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tomPietrowski
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The salomon suspect rips on groomers. Not the most playfull park ski but they are some of the best carving skis I have tried. Give them a try.
May 25 2014 8:01PM
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b.utters
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Go take some lessons and any ski will grip properly on groomers and ice.
May 25 2014 8:20PM
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tomPietrowski
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b.uttersGo take some lessons and any ski will grip properly on groomers and ice.


Not really. Go try ski a line TC fast down an icy run and see if you still think any ski can hold an edge.
May 25 2014 8:35PM
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50Kal
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Full traditional camber skis will hold the best.
May 25 2014 8:41PM
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b.utters
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tomPietrowskiNot really. Go try ski a line TC fast down an icy run and see if you still think any ski can hold an edge.


I ski a pair of beat to shit K2 Public Enemy's over ice and hardpack for the majority of the southern winter. Spending money on lessons will be a far better investment than buying a new pair of skis if you can't deal with ice and hardpack. Or better yet, go get your current skis an edge tune and then spend the remaining couple of hundred dollars on learning to ski properly.
May 25 2014 9:31PM
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tomPietrowski
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b.uttersI ski a pair of beat to shit K2 Public Enemy's over ice and hardpack for the majority of the southern winter. Spending money on lessons will be a far better investment than buying a new pair of skis if you can't deal with ice and hardpack. Or better yet, go get your current skis an edge tune and then spend the remaining couple of hundred dollars on learning to ski properly.


Your missing my point. The pe is a stiff full cambered ski. They held an edge great so even a really beat up pair will be better them some skis. Sure technique Is the biggest factor but the ski for sure play a role too.
May 26 2014 4:21AM
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Surfboard
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Most skis on the stiff side with full sidewall and camber will grip the best, check out the Scratch, Prestor, or other skis of that sort... Definitely try to stay away from the early taper skis like Halo's or Alpha's
May 26 2014 11:39AM
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.nasty
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b.uttersI ski a pair of beat to shit K2 Public Enemy's over ice and hardpack for the majority of the southern winter. Spending money on lessons will be a far better investment than buying a new pair of skis if you can't deal with ice and hardpack. Or better yet, go get your current skis an edge tune and then spend the remaining couple of hundred dollars on learning to ski properly.


dipshit of the week here!!!
May 26 2014 12:19PM
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.nylesdipshit of the week here!!!


except he definitely has a valid point, a skier with proper technique and form should be able to handle hard pack with any ski
May 26 2014 12:33PM
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tomPietrowski
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HENRYHIBBELNexcept he definitely has a valid point, a skier with proper technique and form should be able to handle hard pack with any ski


Yeah for sure but that does not mean you should not get a good ski too. The op was asking which skis carve the best so we gave advice on which will be good options. If he was asking how to overall inprove his edging technique then yeah recomending skis would be less usefull but that is not what the op is asking.
May 26 2014 1:02PM
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Heart
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HENRYHIBBELNexcept he definitely has a valid point, a skier with proper technique and form should be able to handle hard pack with any ski


No shit, but the ski makes a huge difference. You can't tell me that my noodly Line Invaders are as easy to ski on groomers and ice as my 2x4 Chronics. Going fast on my invaders is so sketchy. They chatter and the tips flap around. Chronics plow through whatever is thrown at them.
May 26 2014 1:45PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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Anything that has a proper tune, full camber, and a relatively stiff (not noodle) flex. Normally a ski under 90 mm in width will be good if you have decent technique. If you have good technique, then you could ski up to 100 in width.
May 26 2014 2:06PM
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LastChairMedia
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I have the 12/13 K2 Recoils and they shred on ice and pack.
May 26 2014 6:17PM
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WyattShapperd
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Full tilts
May 26 2014 10:28PM
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DawsonFreeze
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anything by LIB TECH their skis have magne-traction (wavy edges) so there are more contact points on the snow then your typical ski
May 27 2014 10:23AM
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rozboon
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DawsonFreezeanything by LIB TECH their skis have magne-traction (wavy edges) so there are more contact points on the snow then your typical ski


Hahahah, what?

Because 50 contact points 2cm long are better than one contact point 170cm long?

To answer OP, personally I find the Nordica Ace of Spades Ti holds a damn good edge, probably because it's relatively stiff and fairly cambered.
May 28 2014 1:45AM
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Spiri7o
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50KalFull traditional camber skis will hold the best.


Some good advice
May 28 2014 10:39PM
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