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.lencon
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I've made a few threads about some buttery all mtn skis that I want for next year. But all I got was smack on skis I was interested in. I was looking at armada al dentes, lib tech skis, and joystick those skis. I got smack on these and I was just wandering if you guys know of any ski that is buttery and all mtn. I do a lot of jumps and "natural" jibbing and ski pow
Apr 9 2014 6:46PM
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TheDetectives
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blends are really nice skis, along with nordica soul riders
Apr 9 2014 7:43PM
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gapersarefriends
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yeah i skied on blends past two years, super fun skis
Apr 9 2014 7:57PM
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.lencon
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TheDetectivesblends are really nice skis, along with nordica soul riders


gapersarefriendsyeah i skied on blends past two years, super fun skis


I have a pair of chronics. Are they as buttery as the blends?
Apr 9 2014 10:55PM
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TheDetectives
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PanduhButtahI have a pair of chronics. Are they as buttery as the blends?



Blends are a tad softer, but the flex (i feel) is a little different b/c of the extra rocker
Apr 9 2014 11:15PM
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steeze.pizza
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You should check out on3ps kartel 98 and 106 for next year.
Apr 9 2014 11:24PM
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tomPietrowski
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The al dente sounds perfect for you. Nice and soft tip but somthing underfoot so you can carve them hard. The disadvantage you will get with any soft all mnt ski is you need to up size. For example for all mnt I would ski te al dente in 188 which would be way to big for park. But for all mnt I loved the al dente in tht size. The other ski I woul look at is the on3p jmo. Similar ski to the al dente shape wise but with tail rocker. The added rocker helps in fresh snow so they are a great soft snow ski, but it does mean you lose effective edge which limits it's carving. Certainly the al dente carves much better. So if your more on groomed or hard pack go al dente if it's more soft go jmo.
Apr 10 2014 4:14AM
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-wakes-
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another vote for blends. Dentes are more park oriented than all mtn. ARVti is the same shape as the dente but has a sheet of metal in the construction making it armadas around 100 under foot all mtn ski.. Also a good ski, but not as buttery as blends.
Apr 10 2014 11:47AM
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tomPietrowski
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-wakes-another vote for blends. Dentes are more park oriented than all mtn. ARVti is the same shape as the dente but has a sheet of metal in the construction making it armadas around 100 under foot all mtn ski.. Also a good ski, but not as buttery as blends.


There really is nothing that makes the al dente a park ski. as you say it uses the same shape as the arv ti. Honestly yes you can use it in the park, but it being soft means you upsize, I rode it in 188 when i normally ride 176-181 parks skis. Because of that its not a ski you can throw around easily in the park. Armada have the ar7, thall, halo, el ray and alpha all of which as much more park orientated then the al dente. the al dente is one of the best soft all mnt skis in my opinion.
Apr 10 2014 11:53AM
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AJizzle
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I agree with Tom 100%

I ride the ARVti in a 188 as my all mtn ski, but the al dente is surprisingly good considering I normally hate skis that are super soft (fujas & blend namely). The al dente gets a bad wrap as an über soft ski, mostly because that gets repeated over and over by kids who have never seen, let alone ridden it. The cAmber through the tail makes I poppy and hold an edge, while the soft rockered tip makes it buttery, playful and float well.
Apr 10 2014 12:51PM
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-wakes-
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tomPietrowskiThere really is nothing that makes the al dente a park ski. as you say it uses the same shape as the arv ti. Honestly yes you can use it in the park, but it being soft means you upsize, I rode it in 188 when i normally ride 176-181 parks skis. Because of that its not a ski you can throw around easily in the park. Armada have the ar7, thall, halo, el ray and alpha all of which as much more park orientated then the al dente. the al dente is one of the best soft all mnt skis in my opinion.


Don't get me wrong, I have risen the dente both inside and outside the park and it does fine. I personally consider it more of a park ski given the fact the ARV is pretty much the exact same but a tad stiffer. I mean tons of people ride dents in the park but i haven't seen many on the ARVs. Get what I'm saying?
Apr 10 2014 4:49PM
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skiRay
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Blends
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Id say the PB&Js are pretty stiff from all accounts that ive read and heard about. Definitely mroe of a chargy ski.
Apr 10 2014 5:05PM
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AJizzle
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skiRayBlends
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Id say the PB&Js are pretty stiff from all accounts that ive read and heard about. Definitely mroe of a chargy ski.


Compared to those two everything else ever made is stiff.
Apr 10 2014 5:34PM
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integralmgmt
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I'd go with the Al Dente. A really stable ski at speed but still soft enough to have a lot of fun.
Apr 10 2014 9:08PM
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tomPietrowski
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-wakes-Don't get me wrong, I have risen the dente both inside and outside the park and it does fine. I personally consider it more of a park ski given the fact the ARV is pretty much the exact same but a tad stiffer. I mean tons of people ride dents in the park but i haven't seen many on the ARVs. Get what I'm saying?


Not really no. What do you think makes it more of a park ski? The point is if you look at the stats for the al dente it's a all mnt ski. It's too wide for the park really and you have to ski it too long for it to be a quick little ski.

Any ski can be used in the park. I used to love my automatics in the park but that does not make them a park ski.

But either way it just shows how versatile the al dente really is.
Apr 11 2014 3:05AM
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S.J.W
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tomPietrowskiNot really no. What do you think makes it more of a park ski? The point is if you look at the stats for the al dente it's a all mnt ski. It's too wide for the park really and you have to ski it too long for it to be a quick little ski.

Any ski can be used in the park. I used to love my automatics in the park but that does not make them a park ski.

But either way it just shows how versatile the al dente really is.


The term "park ski" is sort of a marketing gimic i think, it's like saying a Nike Mercurial boot is only good for soccer but not for football.
Apr 11 2014 9:09AM
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.lencon
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ECSTASKIThe term "park ski" is sort of a marketing gimic i think, it's like saying a Nike Mercurial boot is only good for soccer but not for football.


Let's talk about skis. Not soccer shoes. I get you point and agree with you totally, but yeah let's get soccer out if this thread
Apr 11 2014 7:43PM
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-wakes-
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tomPietrowskiNot really no. What do you think makes it more of a park ski? The point is if you look at the stats for the al dente it's a all mnt ski. It's too wide for the park really and you have to ski it too long for it to be a quick little ski.

Any ski can be used in the park. I used to love my automatics in the park but that does not make them a park ski.

But either way it just shows how versatile the al dente really is.


The dente is Henriks pro model... he's a park skier. Its listed on armadas website as a park ski. Recommended use on backcountry.com... park.


But anyway OP if you do want an all mtn ski that soft it can still rip, and has enough underfoot to provide a decent amount of float.
Apr 11 2014 8:15PM
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S.J.W
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PanduhButtahLet's talk about skis. Not soccer shoes. I get you point and agree with you totally, but yeah let's get soccer out if this thread


Yeah it was just an analagy
Apr 11 2014 9:53PM
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tomPietrowski
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-wakes-The dente is Henriks pro model... he's a park skier. Its listed on armadas website as a park ski. Recommended use on backcountry.com... park.


But anyway OP if you do want an all mtn ski that soft it can still rip, and has enough underfoot to provide a decent amount of float.


I will agree it's marketed as a park ski yeah.
Apr 12 2014 3:51AM
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