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Fat Skis + Spring Slush? Who is doing it

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skiRay
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To start off, I'm not sure if anyone has posted anything like this before.

Anyways, this past weekend I thought to ride my Moment Bibbys (fully rockered and 116mm underfoot) at Whiteface, Ny. It dawned on me that rockered fat skis should have the same affect skiing deep(isn) slush in the spring as 5+ inches of pow.

I skied them 2 days in a row until I decided that I wanted to ski all park on sunday, when I switched to a pair of Armadas. I skied all mtn, jumps, and some clever park features that Whiteface has right now. I loved every second of it. Definitely the way to go if you can resist (if you choose) hitting rails and just like to charge and go big. They were much more stable than my AR7s on jump landings and sending trail mergings, where as in normal Whiteface conditions they would be all over the place and a handfull.

Just wondering if anyone else does this and what they think, becasue on the EC I certaintly dont see it.
Apr 9 2014 12:32PM
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onenerdykid
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for me, something 95-100mm is perfect for this. Anything wider tends to grab more snow and get too heavy or pulled in a funny direction.
Apr 9 2014 12:55PM
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Huck_Norris
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I rock my 109 underfoot Worth Magics constantly in the slush- and everything else really- and love them. Wider is better (to a point obviously) in the Eastern spring, as it helps you stay up on top of what little slush may be left. Base prep is most important though, make sure you hard brush the FUCK out of your bases and get that structure nice and even and deep. Wax em up good, Hertel Hot Sauce wax is the best BY FAR (for the money)for spring slush conditions and having a Zardoz puck in your pocket will help a lot too.


I've skied it many times on skinnies, but I like fatties better unless you're talking Superstar in late May type huge bumps. Surfier, faster transitions, easier initiation since you don't get as mired down in a turn and they keep you off the dirt for the most part.


So yeah, you are not alone. Fatties are awesome ad totally fun in slushy conditions.
Apr 9 2014 1:09PM
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canadianjester
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Cole Drexler does.

He's usually on next years Line Blends at my mountain.
Apr 9 2014 1:14PM
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NinetyFour
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I have no idea how to embed from Instagram so I'll just link it up:

http://instagram.com/p/mQmss5pV4G/

That's the life right there.
Apr 9 2014 1:18PM
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Thawg
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I have been riding some old scott P4s 108 underfoot. They tear the shit out of slush, its super fun. They also have extremely soft tails and that just adds to how fun they are. My Halo2s (95mm underfoot) don't perform nearly as well in slush. The P4s just rip through the slush like its nothing.
Apr 9 2014 1:29PM
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1kewldewd
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I have been riding hellbents and they are great
Apr 9 2014 8:13PM
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JahFeels
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Terrible idea
Apr 9 2014 8:23PM
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B-Right-On
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I only ski my 122m underfoot fatties....and I love every second of it
Apr 9 2014 8:34PM
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TheDetectives
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canadianjesterCole Drexler does.

He's usually on next years Line Blends at my mountain.


do you ski at blue?
Apr 9 2014 11:33PM
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montanan
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everybody is doing it. do it.
Apr 10 2014 9:53AM
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Twig
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I wish I was, I left my bacons at home... I'm on a 3 week trip with only my TCs. Not happy about it.
Apr 10 2014 11:33AM
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Caucasian_Asian
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It's all about base structure and wax.
Apr 10 2014 12:18PM
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haggis_hunter
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Kastle FX94's = spring mogul smashing fun.
Apr 10 2014 12:21PM
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.nasty
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Lordf*Kastle FX94's = spring mogul smashing fun.


94 underfoot is not a fat ski. lol
Apr 10 2014 12:23PM
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skiRay
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Huck_NorrisI've skied it many times on skinnies, but I like fatties better unless you're talking Superstar in late May type huge bumps. Surfier, faster transitions, easier initiation since you don't get as mired down in a turn and they keep you off the dirt for the most part.


So yeah, you are not alone. Fatties are awesome ad totally fun in slushy conditions.


Well put, I couldnt agree more.

The_WoatI have been riding some old scott P4s 108 underfoot. They tear the shit out of slush, its super fun. They also have extremely soft tails and that just adds to how fun they are. My Halo2s (95mm underfoot) don't perform nearly as well in slush. The P4s just rip through the slush like its nothing.


Are these the white ones with the Orange and Yellow stripes? I remember wanted them badly years back, and thought they were too massive!

1kewldewdI have been riding hellbents and they are great


always wanted to rip Bents in general, would love nothing more than to own originals with eh 122 waist still.
Apr 10 2014 5:04PM
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haggis_hunter
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.nyles94 underfoot is not a fat ski. lol


Its plenty fat enough when I grew up on 210 straight skis which were 70mm from tip to tail pretty much. Also in Europe ive not found a day where I couldnt get away with riding under 100mm waisted sticks.
Apr 10 2014 5:49PM
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ISellMeth
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Spring days + Powder skis = Ultimate fuck around day
Apr 10 2014 6:20PM
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chuckmarty
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Rockin my Bent Chetlers for spring park laps at Breck
Apr 10 2014 7:03PM
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Thawg
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skiRayAre these the white ones with the Orange and Yellow stripes? I remember wanted them badly years back, and thought they were too massive!



If you mean this version, then yes. You should have gotten them when you had the chance(probably in like 2006 when they came out), they are so fun to ride. I wish scott would remake them, all of the skis they make now are super stiff, but the P4s are crazy soft(in the tails at least) and they are full camber which is interesting too. And the graphics are soooo clean too, I love almost everything about them.
Apr 10 2014 10:47PM
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JuliusJ
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Honestly fat skis are always my go to unless its cold and no new snow. Even then, I don't mind bombing groomers or ripping the park on big skis
Apr 10 2014 10:58PM
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cydwhit
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The_Woat

If you mean this version, then yes. You should have gotten them when you had the chance(probably in like 2006 when they came out), they are so fun to ride. I wish scott would remake them, all of the skis they make now are super stiff, but the P4s are crazy soft(in the tails at least) and they are full camber which is interesting too. And the graphics are soooo clean too, I love almost everything about them.


Those are so rad, I wish more graphics were like this
Apr 10 2014 11:05PM
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skier58284
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If it's not icy, I ski my 117mm Obsethed. I've only had my other skis out maybe 6 times this season.
Apr 11 2014 12:57AM
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MothaHucker
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Night Trains in the park over errythang
Apr 11 2014 3:40PM
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b-kul
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old p4 graphics are some of the best ever.
Apr 11 2014 4:14PM
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skiRay
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The_Woat

If you mean this version, then yes. You should have gotten them when you had the chance(probably in like 2006 when they came out), they are so fun to ride. I wish scott would remake them, all of the skis they make now are super stiff, but the P4s are crazy soft(in the tails at least) and they are full camber which is interesting too. And the graphics are soooo clean too, I love almost everything about them.


Hell yeah thats the one. Those bad boys came out right around the time rocker (maybe before actually) rocker was introduced so i imagine they kill it everywhere wihtout sacraficing to omuch stability that you might in a rockered fatty. Jealous!
Apr 11 2014 8:38PM
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Thawg
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skiRayHell yeah thats the one. Those bad boys came out right around the time rocker (maybe before actually) rocker was introduced so i imagine they kill it everywhere wihtout sacraficing to omuch stability that you might in a rockered fatty. Jealous!


they actually kind of have what I like to call a false rocker. The tails are so soft that when skiing in soft stuff it helps keep the tips above the snow(like rocker), but they can still rip groomers because of the camber, its really cool.
Apr 11 2014 9:03PM
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skiRay
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totaly get what you mean. This is how the old Seth Vicious were also
Apr 13 2014 12:30PM
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nutz.
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How fat is fat? I have a pair of ON3P pillowfights and I can't decide if I want to sell them... if they kill it in the slush I'll keep it for sure, but with a 135mm waist width I'm not how sure how great they'd be for that...
Apr 13 2014 12:42PM
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skiRay
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nutz.How fat is fat? I have a pair of ON3P pillowfights and I can't decide if I want to sell them... if they kill it in the slush I'll keep it for sure, but with a 135mm waist width I'm not how sure how great they'd be for that...


im refering to the 110-120mm range. pillowfights might be a handful
Apr 13 2014 5:23PM
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rozboon
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I love riding Hellbents in spring slush. So surfy... if anything even more so than pow, because there's a bit more weight behind slush so you can really lay into it.
The only issue is that to get them to run kinda fast on wet snow you need a very aggressive base structure, which then sucks massive balls in the cold dry snow when the next season starts... and you can't just keep base grinding them for different structures unless you're getting new skis every year.
Apr 13 2014 8:15PM
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chickenclap
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The_Woat

If you mean this version, then yes. You should have gotten them when you had the chance(probably in like 2006 when they came out), they are so fun to ride. I wish scott would remake them, all of the skis they make now are super stiff, but the P4s are crazy soft(in the tails at least) and they are full camber which is interesting too. And the graphics are soooo clean too, I love almost everything about them.


do you ski at crystal? I think I've seen you on those. look fun.
Apr 13 2014 9:31PM
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dan09uk
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Using my surface new life's for everything, lots of fun I'm the slush.
Apr 13 2014 10:28PM
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B-Right-On
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dan09ukUsing my surface new life's for everything, lots of fun I'm the slush.


THIS
Apr 13 2014 11:02PM
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Thawg
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infantkillahdo you ski at crystal? I think I've seen you on those. look fun.


yes I ski at crystal
Apr 14 2014 8:54AM
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canadianjester
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TheDetectivesdo you ski at blue?


Yep.
Apr 14 2014 9:29AM
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jjdsteeze
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surface one lifes all dayyyyyyyy
Apr 14 2014 6:29PM
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SimplyClean
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chuckmartyRockin my Bent Chetlers for spring park laps at Breck


Pretty sure I saw you on Saturday, were you out? Super fun day
Apr 14 2014 8:22PM
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p-fo
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I do it to blow kids' minds. Last summer I took my Caylors out for a few laps, just maching everywhere jumping over things. I almost killed some Windell's kids who stacked up in the landing of a box I was nose dragging in pubby. Basically found tranny on some kid's ski. I saw them at the bottom later and they asked me how I was able to ski on "big skis".
Gonna do that a few more times this year.
Apr 15 2014 2:44AM
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Lemuel
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I should have taken my Ghost Chants out one of these spring days. Always got funny looks shredding around Okemo on them.
Apr 15 2014 10:53AM
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skiRay
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LemuelI should have taken my Ghost Chants out one of these spring days. Always got funny looks shredding around Okemo on them.


Yeahhh should have. This year.
Feb 4 2015 11:25AM
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gapersarefriends
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Skied a pair of bubbas in slush, so much fun
Feb 4 2015 10:53PM
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shin-bang
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The_WoatI have been riding some old scott P4s 108 underfoot. They tear the shit out of slush, its super fun. They also have extremely soft tails and that just adds to how fun they are. My Halo2s (95mm underfoot) don't perform nearly as well in slush. The P4s just rip through the slush like its nothing.


yea i was gonna say this. i center mounted a pair and loved the soft tails and how they blasted through crud. i ripped the binding out and theyre on theyre 4th mount so i think theyre done :(
Feb 5 2015 12:17AM
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skiRay
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gapersarefriendsSkied a pair of bubbas in slush, so much fun


tell me more
Feb 5 2015 12:39AM
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B.Quincy
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gapersarefriendsSkied a pair of bubbas in slush, so much fun

Have magic js so thinking about doing this haha.
Feb 5 2015 5:24PM
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japanada
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Full rocker 112mm hojis all day every day. Ice, pow, bumps, gates, park, anything!
Feb 5 2015 7:17PM
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SapperDaddy
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I've been riding my blogs on every thing ice, groomers, powder, slush you name it they've been through it. I prefer them in the park too. I wish Atomic would make them again. Best ski I have ever owned.
Feb 5 2015 9:31PM
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gapersarefriends
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skiRaytell me more


B.QuincyHave magic js so thinking about doing this haha.


so much fun to play around and shit. To me it made an average slushy day into one of the best days last year
Feb 5 2015 9:54PM
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skiRay
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gapersarefriendsso much fun to play around and shit. To me it made an average slushy day into one of the best days last year


right? its like you spend just as much time in the air popping (with ease) from bump to bump as you do on the ground.
Feb 7 2015 12:50AM
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gapersarefriends
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skiRayright? its like you spend just as much time in the air popping (with ease) from bump to bump as you do on the ground.


Seriously, just adds a whole nother level of playfulness
Feb 7 2015 2:55AM
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B.Quincy
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skiRayright? its like you spend just as much time in the air popping (with ease) from bump to bump as you do on the ground.


gapersarefriendsSeriously, just adds a whole nother level of playfulness


Sweeetttt im goin to whis next week and have heard its been pretty shitty basically spring conditions so im probs gonna ski them all week ive been skiing them more and more on normal days and they are so fun and playful compared to my stiff full camber park skis haha.
Feb 7 2015 12:33PM
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