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^those are some damn good numbers
^^get that shit healed, looks bad
...when I am doing shoulder presses whether it's with dumbells or a bar I'm getting pain in my back. I noticed that I've been arching it when I'm struggling to get up heavier weight but even after I straighten up I'm still experience pain. Any similar situations? Any solutions?
More than likely you have shitty felexibility in your shoulders and/or thoracic spine. You shouldnt be arching your lower back when pressing.
I would suggest cutting all loaded exercises out for the next 2 weeks, working on mobility, then starting back up with a focus on nailing proper form with the lower weight. Once proper form(only possible with proper mobiolity) is your natural groove, you can start putting your focus back on moving more weight.
A quick check is- sit straight up against a wall with your ass right up against it, legs out straight infront. now flatten(push) your lower back against the wall so your shoulders down to your ass is flat against the wall. Now mimic a dumbell press with keeping your upper arms in contact with the wall all the way to the very top range of motion.
More than likely, you wont be able to do it. Keep working at it every day doing a bunch of reps all the while trying to force your lower back up against the wall while keeping your upper arms against it also. this should also be done as part of your warmup on pressing days...or really any day.
It's mid to upper, but the way you described it helped me to realize its shit form that's causing the problem. Thanks for the advice, I'll use that as a warm up next time. Also, sorry for my creeping but it's nice to see someone else at a similar height and weight to me. I don't see many other people in that 6'2+ 190lb+ range at the gym.
ABallsIt's mid to upper, but the way you described it helped me to realize its shit form that's causing the problem. Thanks for the advice, I'll use that as a warm up next time. Also, sorry for my creeping but it's nice to see someone else at a similar height and weight to me. I don't see many other people in that 6'2+ 190lb+ range at the gym.
I would highly suggest knocking off the spine loaded movements for a little bit. If something is hurting, that means its hurt. for it to stop hurting it needs to heal. for it to heal you need to rest it. Youre young and heal quick, just take a little time to switch your workouts to a different focus for a few quick weeks.
When you get back at it remember to flex your abs as hard as you can. It hugely, hugely relies on your core for stability...the valsalva manuever is pretty key in this situation. dont pass out though haha.
ABalls^those are some damn good numbers
^^get that shit healed, looks bad
...when I am doing shoulder presses whether it's with dumbells or a bar I'm getting pain in my back. I noticed that I've been arching it when I'm struggling to get up heavier weight but even after I straighten up I'm still experience pain. Any similar situations? Any solutions?
Dude, I get the same exact pain, only on should press. I assumed it was from not stablizing my core when doing it or I was too far back. I am going to take the advice as well and see how it goes.
louie.miragsDude, I get the same exact pain, only on should press. I assumed it was from not stablizing my core when doing it or I was too far back. I am going to take the advice as well and see how it goes.
make sure you press your back flat against the bench, i assume you're not doing it standing, if then you can't lift proply as mentioned before you're gonna need to do some shoulder mobility work
Chubbs.Decided it was time to get my ass in gear and get back in the gym constantly.. ive been a lazy sack of shit and only going once or twice a week.
Got some different supps.
"Buying a bunch of expensive supplements will definitely give me the motivation to workout!"
Toasty.Have a super tight left hip flexor.. been trying to stretch it out. Any tips?
Stretching hip flexors is like sex. The feeling of being limber afterwards is awesome. Look up "lunge hip flexor stretch"
Stretching tight hip flexors can definitely be painful but after you are done it feels really good. Doing a quad stretch and pulling the leg you're stretching past the parallel line of your body (standing upright) will also help.
Experiment (gently) with various body positions and find what works for you. It's pretty obvious when you are hitting a tight spot...you will feel it immediately.
loopieStretching hip flexors is like sex. The feeling of being limber afterwards is awesome. Look up "lunge hip flexor stretch"
Stretching tight hip flexors can definitely be painful but after you are done it feels really good. Doing a quad stretch and pulling the leg you're stretching past the parallel line of your body (standing upright) will also help.
Experiment (gently) with various body positions and find what works for you. It's pretty obvious when you are hitting a tight spot...you will feel it immediately.
Haha actually pretty true. I have chronically tight hip flexors and really tight hip joints in general. My hips and hip flexors are never healthier and looser than when i am having sex everyday. I sometimes treat missionary like a mobility drill for a minute or so if i need/want to delay my orgasm lol. My abs also benefit a good amount from the extra work, especially because you are more likely to push through the burn in bed compared to the gym haha.
Sex is one of, if not THE healthiest thing you can do for your body regardless of age or athleticism(obviously within reason).
90053make sure you press your back flat against the bench, i assume you're not doing it standing, if then you can't lift proply as mentioned before you're gonna need to do some shoulder mobility work
Thanks man! I do the the press sitting.. I have tried to put extra focus in form and sitting straight against the bench but still feel it. Only as i'm finishing the exercise and getting up. I will look into the mobility part of it. I thought it may have been me sitting too far from the bar, so I have been making it so the far rises just in front my face, almost hitting my nose.
cobra_commanderMaybe, just maybe, it could be due to a lack of strength instead of a lack of mobility...
(HINT: strength trumps mobility when it comes to doing exercises without pain, but both are important).
I have lowered the weight to see if it was my form and I still feel the pain as I am finishing my shoulder press. Also, I feel it warming up shoulders with no weight on the bar.
louie.miragsI have lowered the weight to see if it was my form and I still feel the pain as I am finishing my shoulder press. Also, I feel it warming up shoulders with no weight on the bar.
I would just take a week off from shoulders. keep stretching it and what not but don't lift on it for a week or so then try again. i had a good pain in my knee for two weeks in a row, took the week off and did some body weight squats to stretch it out and it was fine the week after
juicedrummer11I would just take a week off from shoulders. keep stretching it and what not but don't lift on it for a week or so then try again. i had a good pain in my knee for two weeks in a row, took the week off and did some body weight squats to stretch it out and it was fine the week after
ABallsI'm going to start squatting. It just seems too beneficial to keep avoiding.
I would suggest getting comfy with trap bar deadlifts first, then move on to front squats, then finally back squats...assuming you don't currently have great hip mobility.
At the very least I'd suggest front squating for 2 weeks so you get used to the feeling of keeping your core super tight, and also to get used to dropping down between your heels- not sitting back, not hinging at the waist, not squating- dropping your ass down between your heels.
Generally speaking, I only wear a belt about 80-85% of my max lifts. I've got two different belts. A soft, velcro belt for actual olympic lifts (really only cleans) and then a 10mm leather Inzer belt for heavy squats and (really) heavy deadlifts.
All that said, I would avoid using on one until you know you have good form and a decent base strength level to pull/squat decent weight without one. Too many people use a belt to put up bigger numbers than they should.
Do you know how the belt actually works to support your back?
Also, the loaner belts at your gym are almost certainly not deadlifting belts.
Yeah, it gives your abs and core something to push on when you're pushing on your glottis mid lift (intra abdominal pressure) which in turn stabilizes the muscles around your spine.
And about the loaner belts, that may be. I definitely used those core muscles pulling yesterday (sans belt) - I can feel them today. They have a lot of equipment though, so I wouldn't be surprised if they had them.
saskskierGenerally speaking, I only wear a belt about 80-85% of my max lifts. I've got two different belts. A soft, velcro belt for actual olympic lifts (really only cleans) and then a 10mm leather Inzer belt for heavy squats and (really) heavy deadlifts.
All that said, I would avoid using on one until you know you have good form and a decent base strength level to pull/squat decent weight without one. Too many people use a belt to put up bigger numbers than they should.
So bottom line - wait till I know my form is good and I haven't decent base strength without one? What qualifies "decent base strength?" I've read a lot of articles that say "don't use them if you don't have to, they'll act as a crutch" but there are others out there saying the exact opposite. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to believe. What you're saying seems to support the former.
can someone help me find the right protein im trying to fucking bulk but i cant seem to find a good post workout shake, most shakes give me the shits or a lot of gas
mirozYeah, it gives your abs and core something to push on when you're pushing on your glottis mid lift (intra abdominal pressure) which in turn stabilizes the muscles around your spine.
And about the loaner belts, that may be. I definitely used those core muscles pulling yesterday (sans belt) - I can feel them today. They have a lot of equipment though, so I wouldn't be surprised if they had them.
So bottom line - wait till I know my form is good and I haven't decent base strength without one? What qualifies "decent base strength?" I've read a lot of articles that say "don't use them if you don't have to, they'll act as a crutch" but there are others out there saying the exact opposite. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to believe. What you're saying seems to support the former.
a 400lb pull is a pretty good strength base(assuming you arent some behemoth). I personally get pretty much zero benefit form a belt when pulling but a large benefit when back squatting.
Its all personal preference. Every so often i use the belt for my final squat worksets to get a new PR or because i feel like it haha. I would suggest, in line with saskier, to only use a belt on your final HEAVY worksets though.
undisputedcan someone help me find the right protein im trying to fucking bulk but i cant seem to find a good post workout shake, most shakes give me the shits or a lot of gas
Eat more. protein shakes wont make you put on weight. Whats your current diet broken down by meal?
As for powders, what products have you used, how many grams of protein in your shake, what are you mixing with it, and when are you drinking it?
californiagrowna 400lb pull is a pretty good strength base(assuming you arent some behemoth). I personally get pretty much zero benefit form a belt when pulling but a large benefit when back squatting.
Its all personal preference. Every so often i use the belt for my final squat worksets to get a new PR or because i feel like it haha. I would suggest, in line with saskier, to only use a belt on your final HEAVY worksets though.
Good to know. If I do use one, I'd use it only on the heaviest sets. Thanks guys, appreciate it.
mirozSo bottom line - wait till I know my form is good and I haven't decent base strength without one? What qualifies "decent base strength?" I've read a lot of articles that say "don't use them if you don't have to, they'll act as a crutch" but there are others out there saying the exact opposite. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to believe. What you're saying seems to support the former.
Sorry. I missed your comment about 405x2 deadlift. Sounds like you've got a pretty solid base. Ha ha. There is a ton of conflicting info re: lifting with belts (lifting/oly lifting/powerlifting/crossfit/etc), but I'd stick with keeping the belt for your heaviest sets.
@caligrown I remember you saying a while back that you did a 4 week bulk/ 4 week cut cycle. Could you go more in depth on that? I'd like to know more about it.
I never lift with a belt anymore. I don't compete, and developing the core stabilization is more important to me. Doesn't stop me from repping out sets of 5-15 with lots of weight.
WheatAny tips for staying on track while cutting? Cheated out today hard and I don't know what to do to stay motivated
When that happens to me I go online and search up dudes I want to look like (steve cook, Daniel Blackwell, Marc fitt) those guys all have insanely low body fat levels, it keeps me on track.
ABallsWhen that happens to me I go online and search up dudes I want to look like (steve cook, Daniel Blackwell, Marc fitt) those guys all have insanely low body fat levels, it keeps me on track.
Ordered new pre workout from Boudybuilding.com at 9 am on monday and it got here yesterday at 2... There shipping from Boise to Seattle continues to blow my mind.
Ugh. Between travelling and work I managed to finally get back to the gym for the first time in about 1.5-2 weeks. Felt pretty rough.
Managed to work up to about a 245lb snatch (pretty pumped this is almost routine now. A year ago it was my max) and a 365lb x 3 back squat (405x3 is my best, so definitely way off)
Ski_AlotBout to take preworkout for my first time...
with caffeine? I tried first time 2 months ago and I've been hooked on the pump. I took it too early first time (20-25 minutes prior) and my neck got so warm and I was so antsy
Finally (sort of) getting back into a routine. I can definitely tell it's been a while since I've squatted regularly (weights are light and body's sore...), but it's good. I'm trying to make a decent push and hopefully get some pr's before Christmas.
Didn't have a ton of time yesterday so went in and did a few waves of front squats
saskskierFinally (sort of) getting back into a routine. I can definitely tell it's been a while since I've squatted regularly (weights are light and body's sore...), but it's good. I'm trying to make a decent push and hopefully get some pr's before Christmas.
Didn't have a ton of time yesterday so went in and did a few waves of front squats
(3x225, 3x275, 3x315) x3
I'm pretty sure those are great numbers so good job dude. I realize it's not the exercise that the squat is but what do you leg press? I'm just interested to see the weight differences between the two exercises.
ABallsI'm pretty sure those are great numbers so good job dude. I realize it's not the exercise that the squat is but what do you leg press? I'm just interested to see the weight differences between the two exercises.
Thanks man. I think I'm about 30-40lbs off my best fs triple, so a bit of work to do.
I honestly have no idea what my leg press numbers are. I haven't used a leg press since high school or something like that and we don't have any weight machines in our gym.
saskskierThanks man. I think I'm about 30-40lbs off my best fs triple, so a bit of work to do.
I honestly have no idea what my leg press numbers are. I haven't used a leg press since high school or something like that and we don't have any weight machines in our gym.
Oh you work out in one of those cool gyms. Do you have a trainer that helps you there or is it just a smaller open gym?
Side note: my ap stats teacher and I always discuss lifting in class, he's starting up a workout club in December once he is done coaching football and he said he'll help me with squatting. I'm glad he's starting this club now for the benefit of the underclassmen and future students, just wish I wasn't a senior this year so I could've spent more time in the club.
