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2014/2015 ON3P Thread

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Pudge
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Let's just giv'er.

Let this be a framework in which we lust and yearn for the coming line, as well as debate and debase all inquiries pertaining to ON3P.



What is it your desire?

Feb 28 2014 11:17PM
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Threshy
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I really like filthys, when does on3p usually start selling their new line?
Mar 8 2014 7:35PM
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No.Quarter
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JJ are limp noodles, that is all I can say though
Mar 8 2014 7:56PM
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TWoods
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I know this comes off as biased, but -

IMO the Jeffrey outperforms the JJ in all of those aspects. It's a ski that you don't have to think about, it just skis how it's supposed to, and does what you want it to, and saves your ass in sketchy situations or if you get lazy.

The JJ is OK, but I can name at least 5 skis I would be on from companies other than ON3P first. And yes, I have skied them back to back! Core feel and shape being the biggest two. I found the JJ shape to not want to listen to me in variable snow, and the core feel isn't very forgiving in bumpy or choppy terrain.

Mar 9 2014 12:42PM
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-wakes-
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Thanks for the input. My biggest problem with my jjs are when the snow is variable or i hit a hard patch. I love how responsive and easy that are in fresh snow, but it seems like I'm working very hard a lot of the time.
Mar 9 2014 3:28PM
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Powness
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Hmm, anybody know when ON3P usually start to sell next years ski? If the " limited custom option topsheet" thingy happen i guess it will be at the start of the orders? Since i can't go for one ski, i will have to get the Jeffrey 122 and Kartel 106, and that ain't cheap. Fuck compromises
Mar 9 2014 6:36PM
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californiagrown
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Looking at getting a new AT setup for next year. Im 6'4" 200+lbs and want a 190+ ski.

Looking at the weights of even the Steele(one meant for touring) it seems that these skis have some serious heft. I have the OG 191 BG and honestly, if they are only .1 lbs lighter than the "powder Touring" ski that is offered next year, ill probly just use what i have.

you guys planning on laying up some lighter Big skis anytime soon?
Mar 9 2014 7:18PM
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iggyskier
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Production Steeple weights will be quite a bit lighter than is listed in the catalog. We ran out of the lighter bamboo material we use for tour skis before SIA, so we just built the skis with the heavier stock material before the show.

Since the catalog was for our retailers who were there checking out the skis in person, we wanted to be totally honest about the weights for the skis we were showing them at the show.

Once we get our production tour material back in house, we will update the Steeple weights.

Hope that clears it up.
Mar 9 2014 7:24PM
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iggyskier
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Any topsheet swap option will be in the spring.

We haven't decided yet when skis will go live on the website, but it won't be any later than August.
Mar 9 2014 7:25PM
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Pudge
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When is the Construction page coming back? Whenever I refer someone to ON3P I tell them to check it out, but it is... Under Construction
Mar 10 2014 4:32PM
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MrLarsen
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Hmm. Is it final that there will be no 191 Jeffrey 114? That was a ski I was really looking forward to getting as my everyday shredder in all kinds of conditions.
Mar 10 2014 6:10PM
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TWoods
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Construction page? on the ON3P site?
clear your cookies maybe... the site is up.

Mar 10 2014 6:21PM
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Pudge
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I just cleared da cookies
Mar 10 2014 6:33PM
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iggyskier
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For now. Maybe next year. There is like 2 of you asking for it, so unfortunately the interest is just really low at the moment. We have prototype 13/14 191cm Jeffreys floating around, but so far we just haven't had many people show much interest in that size. Sorry.
Mar 10 2014 6:58PM
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MrLarsen
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Go figure. I'l just have to squeeze another season out of my helldorados then.

Will def. be getting Steeple 102 as my "skinny running up that hill" ski though!
Mar 10 2014 7:04PM
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snakerton
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Is the kartel 98 somewhat comparable to the jmo? Will it be able to handle some all mnt shredding?
Mar 10 2014 7:13PM
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iggyskier
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Both the Kartel 98 and Kartel 106 are based on the Jeronimo, so definitely both capable of skiing all mountain.

Think of it this way - with the Jeronimo, people were always asking us what we thought and in their description, they would say something like 40% park/60% all mountain, or 70% park/30 % all mountain, etc.

We basically wanted to take that park/all mountain ratio and turn it into two different skis.

If you want a super park oriented ski, go with the Filthy Rich or Prester.

If you want an all mountain capable ski that is still good in the park, go with the Kartel.

To decide on what Kartel you want:

If you are 50% or more in the park, go Kartel 98.

If you are 50% or more all mountain, go Kartel 106.

That is a general guideline and you can obviously do anything you want, but that is our thinking behind the 2 ski line.
Mar 10 2014 7:20PM
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NinetyFour
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"First pair of 186 RES Jib prototypes off the press and ready for snow. Second prototype variation goes to press tomorrow. Hope they don't suck."

SWEET JESUS.
Mar 10 2014 9:20PM
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Pudge
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Interest peaked
Mar 10 2014 9:44PM
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-Robert
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Just gonna take a seat in here. Really considering the Jeffrey 114 or the Kartel 106.
Mar 10 2014 9:56PM
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Xanadoo
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honestly if ON3P just made a variation of the grizzlycorn the topsheet of all their skis every year i would not complain
Mar 10 2014 9:56PM
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SKI.ING
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They would sell so many pairs. They could charge whatever they want to.
Mar 11 2014 2:03AM
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Scotty_Boy
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Dimensions and rocker profile on this ski? Also how does the RES tie into a jib ski?
Mar 11 2014 11:42AM
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Mr_pretzel
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Its about time you guys started testing this.

Its been year and im still stocked.
Mar 11 2014 11:56AM
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Session
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Much longer than that.
Mar 11 2014 12:11PM
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iggyskier
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We've been talking about it for 2 years now. As for dimensions....sorry but cannot say anything yet. We aren't even sure how we'll RES will translate yet. If we like them and think it is a concept we bring to production we will drop a bit more info.
Mar 11 2014 12:58PM
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Pudge
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Anyone else having this problem?
Mar 11 2014 9:01PM
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Session
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Me. On this computer, and work computer.
Mar 11 2014 10:50PM
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iggyskier
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We haven't updated that page as of yet. We were waiting to do an updated factory video and a few other things for it, but it just never happened.
Mar 12 2014 2:35AM
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Scotty_Boy
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Has the RES jib ski been tested yet?
Mar 12 2014 6:40PM
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Xanadoo
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since they just made the prototype i would guess that they are just starting to test it
Mar 12 2014 7:38PM
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iggyskier
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Skiing the first two prototype variations tomorrow.
Mar 12 2014 8:17PM
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Pudge
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Random question, but I considering purchasing a flag, and that one up there looks like a great size! How big is it?
Mar 12 2014 8:21PM
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Powness
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So to double check that i got this right, IF you do topsheet swaps, do ii have to wait for Spring 2015 to get Jeffrey 122 and kartel 106 2014/15 skis with topsheet swapped out?
Mar 12 2014 8:45PM
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iggyskier
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If we did any limited topsheet swaps, it would occur this spring 2014.
Mar 12 2014 8:55PM
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Powness
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2013/14 models or 2014/15?
Mar 12 2014 9:21PM
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iggyskier
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14/15
Mar 12 2014 9:25PM
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division.bell
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Count me in as #3 if it helps make any difference.
Mar 13 2014 9:28PM
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SoAnG
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#4x2
Mar 14 2014 12:37AM
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Scotty_Boy
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Updates on RES jib ski?
Mar 14 2014 6:46PM
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iggyskier
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They've skied them one day....so far so good, but everyone is going to have to be a bit patient. These will be a 15/16 release at best, but potentially later. We will probably hold off on posting a ton about them until it looks like they are really on the path towards production.
Mar 14 2014 7:08PM
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M.M
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i would be so down for some presters with vicick top sheet ughhh
Mar 15 2014 8:44PM
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Powness
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Been eyeballing the Vicik topsheet myself. Anybody skied the new Kartel 106 & Jeffrey 122? Want some more infos.
Mar 15 2014 10:41PM
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Pudge
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Everyone cut the topsheet shit

You get what you get, and you don't get upset. I told my four year old Godson that today, and he is four. He turned four today. We were at his birthday party, and he understands that expression. He is four.

Anyways, read any Caylor review and you will know exactly what you are getting with the Jeffrey 122. However, with two more millimeters of cold, hard love. The kind of love you get from your Priest.
Mar 15 2014 10:52PM
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californiagrown
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whats the softest, all mtn'ish ski in the lineup. I realize they are all fairly stiff.


also, demo day in tahoe or bachelor anytime soon?
Mar 16 2014 3:12PM
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Blake.P
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It will be the kartel
Mar 16 2014 5:12PM
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ggfski42
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Is there any difference in the flex between the kartel 98 and 106? Also how do they compare to last years 186 jmo's?
Mar 17 2014 8:13PM
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Cspliffff
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So with the loss of the Jeronimo's whats taking its place? (Maybe I'm just being an idiot)
Mar 17 2014 9:21PM
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Cspliffff
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Ya im dumb just move along
Mar 17 2014 9:30PM
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nickmcg
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Any major differences between the 106 kartel and 114 jeffrey besides the added width? I'm currently on the east coast but enjoy fatter skis. Current have bent chetlers and alpha 1's for park, so looking for something in the middle that can do a little of everything.
Mar 19 2014 7:22PM
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iggyskier
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Kartel = Smaller turning radius, less tip taper, elliptical sidecut.

Jeffrey = Larger turning radius, more tip taper, bi-radius sidecut.

For the each coast, I would go with the Kartel 106 between the Alpha and Bent Chetlers. The Jeffrey 114 and Bent Chetlers are going to overlap quick a bit.
Mar 19 2014 7:39PM
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