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Bringing back the Lizzie

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LAME.
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Pretty down in the dumps today searching for a new pair of Lizzies, I thought about calling Line skis asking if they could bring them back, but I knew they wouldn't bring them back. Then It all came to me, I know exactly who would be thrilled to bring back the Lizzie, The man who fucking made the Lizzie!

So i called Jason from J skis, we chatted about bringing back the Lizzie (139-110-137), and basically he said if we can get enough support he may be willing to do a run of the legendary ELIZABETH ski.

If you would be Interested in something like this SHOW SOME SUPPORT, Maybe in addition to the 172 size we could also do a 182. So show some love for the Lizzie, and lets bring it back.

Liam
Feb 19 2014 3:29PM
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ndye
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I was looking at those, easily the most fun looking skis in next years lineup
Feb 21 2014 3:40PM
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SimplyClean
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At the same time you can't compare LIzzies and TC's...a ~15mm wider waist and ~35mm wider tip/tail will ski completely different than the other.
Feb 21 2014 7:01PM
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k3ndall.g
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yes yes yes yes yes yes yes. especially the 182. but don't make it stiffer.
Feb 21 2014 7:44PM
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NPF
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Garret Russell was the reason i wanted them haha he makes them look so fun. starts at like 4:11


Feb 21 2014 9:09PM
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Just_Send_It
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YES
Feb 21 2014 9:10PM
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JLev
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They were unique, ahead of their time but now the shape is behind the time, would need to be a bit different with people already being use to rocker, tapered tips etc. but I'd consider making a really buttery wide ski again at some point. Not likely till next year or later because so many others on the to do list ahead of it but definitely adding to the idea list.
Best would be for a few people that haven't ridden them in a while to pull them out of the basement and ride again for a day and post what they feel like and what they'd want improved. Sorry but always room for improvement no matter how legendary.
thanks for the help & stoke!
Feb 21 2014 9:30PM
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Casey
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That ski was way too short. If I wanted a snow blade, I'd call Jason Lev.. Oh right.
Feb 21 2014 9:33PM
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NPF
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so hyped!
Feb 21 2014 9:35PM
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LAME.
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Naaa they were so perfect!
Feb 21 2014 9:40PM
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C-DAWGSTYLEZ
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I'd buy a pair if it had the OG graphic!

Feb 21 2014 9:54PM
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Line_Skis
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loving the resurgent interest in LIzzie and yes she was a very unique ski that changed a lot of people's thought of how a 110 ski could perform. The new TC ski is a fatter and very buttery ski but of course does not share the Lizzies shape but retains a lot of it's feel. We offer an SFB 172 for the skiers asking for a stiffer Lizzie and we're always developing new skis so feedback, demand and flat out calling us out is MUCH APPRECIATED. 
Feb 21 2014 11:11PM
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Substitute
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You killed the antem. You must pay
Feb 21 2014 11:32PM
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LAME.
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Sorry guys im going to be honest, You dropped the Lizzie, you dropped the invader, you cannot say the mastermind makes up for it, your quality went way down, and you straight up sold out...

I would rather ask someone to make the ski who would do it for the cause, rather then the money.

Feb 22 2014 12:00AM
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Daquanouchea
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DONT CHANGE ANYTHING BRING BACK OG LIZZIE
Feb 22 2014 1:17AM
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Mr_pretzel
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We don't need rocker and tapered tips on everything.
I mean sure you could throw some of lines mini early rise on it, but with a ski that soft all it does is steal some effective edge. And taper, i don't see why not, it could help with the swingweight, I'm only scared of loosing the surfy feel. The lizzies is a park ski thats fun everywhere, not an all mtn ski that is fun in the park.

The improvement would be to make the 182 feel the same.

gahd i need to ride my lizzies, its been a while.
Feb 22 2014 8:24AM
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last_tango
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With the lizzy being so soft you will get rocker in 15 days of riding easily. Havent rode on lizzys but my arvs got early rise in 10 days.
Feb 22 2014 10:35AM
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jsnow
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Not all skis need rocker/early rise.
Feb 22 2014 10:45AM
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Session
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Out of all the people salivating, 10 people would buy them. Ski's that don't sell get changed for a reason.
Feb 22 2014 12:28PM
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jsnow
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they came in one size, i would have bought them if they came in 182.
Feb 22 2014 12:45PM
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amo
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Done and done.
Feb 22 2014 1:15PM
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I_liketobutter
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That just isn't true at all.

Rode my 400+ day Lizzie's today. they're just way too much fun
Feb 22 2014 1:27PM
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Heart
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Please explain both these claims. I haven't noticed and change in Line;s quality, and I fail to see how they "sold out."
Feb 22 2014 6:05PM
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ThaLorax
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Disagree. They weren't short enough!
Feb 24 2014 1:31PM
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esotericjive
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Bring it back
Feb 26 2014 12:36AM
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amo
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So I'm riding the A51 chairlift as I type. Brought out the Lizzie's today cuz it had been a while and they are too much fun. The butter is unreal. JLev you know you want to!
Feb 28 2014 1:48PM
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Mr_pretzel
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JUST BRING THEM BACK.


FREE THE LIZZIE!
Feb 6 2015 10:32AM
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barberdude
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JLevThey were unique, ahead of their time but now the shape is behind the time, would need to be a bit different with people already being use to rocker, tapered tips etc. but I'd consider making a really buttery wide ski again at some point. Not likely till next year or later because so many others on the to do list ahead of it but definitely adding to the idea list.
Best would be for a few people that haven't ridden them in a while to pull them out of the basement and ride again for a day and post what they feel like and what they'd want improved. Sorry but always room for improvement no matter how legendary.
thanks for the help & stoke!


J lev, I actually remounted my 2006 1st edition Elizabeths center before this ski season started to cruise my PA resort Jack Frost Big Boulder. For reference I purchased and rode the Elizabeths as a freestyle pow ski back in 2007. Rode them for a full season at Snowbird and only pulled them out for west coast trips. When I got rockered pow skis, the Elizabeths sat in my basement. I center mounted them and started surfing around my little PA resort and terrain park and love them again. They butter better then any ski with a "Butter Zone" and carve as good as any ski I've had, though I'm 150 lbs and 5'7". Only issue I think, is swing weight.

My suggestion for a retooled versions, make them a little longer, 175 length, and reduce the width to like 135/105/132. There is no need to add rocker if they maintain the same flex.
Feb 22 2015 2:07PM
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whiteboi
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Pretty sure that this is the most exciting thing that I've seen on here all year.
Feb 24 2015 12:50AM
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YoungWookiee
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Bring em back in a size in atleast 184cm
Feb 24 2015 6:01AM
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snowmosexual
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bring them back in a 174, 182
Feb 24 2015 8:35AM
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amo
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I would buy a 174 Lizzie in a heartbeat
Feb 24 2015 2:01PM
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..=
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One year later, and the people still want this to happen. Somebody, whether J or Line, make the dream happen! Nobody would lose out if the Lizzie made a return from the grave
Feb 24 2015 2:24PM
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And also a 174/182 length run would be absolutely perfect.
Feb 24 2015 2:25PM
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KravtZ
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You gotta think someone committing a mini series of skis would want to pre-sell this shit before making them. Nothing like producing for the "demand" which is all talk based on something that isn't made anymore probably for a good reason.
Feb 24 2015 3:50PM
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Steezy_Peazy
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Make a long Lizzie/Jizzie, like 185, with the 16m turn and I would love to buy, but I have no money. If he them for 100 bucks, I might be able to buy a pair :(
Feb 24 2015 4:07PM
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YoungWookiee
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KravtZYou gotta think someone committing a mini series of skis would want to pre-sell this shit before making them. Nothing like producing for the "demand" which is all talk based on something that isn't made anymore probably for a good reason.


IF J skis makes some of the lizzies he should have a time window with a couple different sizes too choose from that arent created yet so only people that actually want a pair can buy some (like me) cause i would love to buy a pair of lizzies in a size above 182
Feb 25 2015 4:48AM
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amo
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If anybody had $500 to spare on 5 year old skis!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2010-NWT-WOMENS-LINE-SKIS-ELIZABETH-172CM-SKIS-800-172-camber-twin-park-pipe-/400718656377?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d4cb17379
Mar 14 2015 5:03PM
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YoungWookiee
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bring back the lizzie in 185 and call it the auzzie please i promise i will buy it
Mar 14 2015 9:05PM
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steezy_doge
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Xanadoo


lmfao
Mar 14 2015 10:19PM
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snowmosexual
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amoIf anybody had $500 to spare on 5 year old skis!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2010-NWT-WOMENS-LINE-SKIS-ELIZABETH-172CM-SKIS-800-172-camber-twin-park-pipe-/400718656377?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d4cb17379


that guy does not know how to sell skis
Mar 17 2015 1:37PM
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Casey
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I'm calling for a JLev and Line Collab project. Were gettin the band back together!
Mar 17 2015 2:55PM
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veng_m
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CaseyI'm calling for a JLev and Line Collab project. Were gettin the band back together!


lets do it
Mar 17 2015 4:36PM
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jellomellow
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If you guys are to bring back the lizzies please have them in a bigger size than 182 maybe a 189 or 187 cause a 182 is going to be a bit small for a 6'3 guy.
Mar 17 2015 9:06PM
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nutz.
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jellomellowIf you guys are to bring back the lizzies please have them in a bigger size than 182 maybe a 189 or 187 cause a 182 is going to be a bit small for a 6'3 guy.


the original lizzy was 172, not 182 haha. I think 182 would be perfect
Mar 18 2015 10:37AM
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whiteboi
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gonna start saving now for these
Mar 19 2015 2:18AM
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Kreech
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amoor an updated version of this



Best graphic of all time. But there already is an updated version of that graphic:

Mar 19 2015 1:25PM
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Cream_Sauce
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I feel the same way about the 2010 Bacons and the Nordica Zero. We need more soft and fat skis!
Mar 20 2015 11:25PM
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SEABURN
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that'd be awesome if it came back. Especially in 182!
Mar 24 2015 4:53PM
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okokok
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They turned into my daily park ski and I love them. They are, however, getting pretty beat up and I could use a new pair.

Bring it back JLEV
Mar 24 2015 8:14PM
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whiteboi
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If they put the 07' SFB graphic on them, hell I'd buy two pairs
Apr 12 2015 8:47PM
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