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Why don't slopestyle and pipe have a mandatory "style" hit?

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TheButterHashira
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LIke in snowboarding pipe they have to do one straight air. I think every run should have at least one trick that is a 720 or less. I think it would freshen up competitions and the viewing experience of them.
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TomDavies
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CheddarJack
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Because style is like a foreign language to judges.
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VT_scratch
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Woah, that's a thing?
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Schmaelzle
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Is that actually a thing?
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FUUUCK
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That's super gay
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eheath
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Nope
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Blurst
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And every single rider did a dub 7.
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DIPED_IN_SAUCE
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Because the "style" of the pros is throwing these huge tricks and stomping the fuck out of them. If we made them do 360 pencil spins for the purpose of style, that's going backwards. Everyone bitches about how a triple thrown at a comp has no style, but really big, technical tricks is a style. As much as I would love to see someone throw a super loft underflip at the Olympics, that doesn't need to happen for the athletes to have style.
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TheButterHashira
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Thanks for your insight.

There would be ways to objectively score the smaller tricks and it would allow for a greater variety of skills to be showcased. We watch edits of people doing switch 5s and shit all day so why not make it a part of the comps. If there are four jumps at least one should be dedicated to something simple.
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TannerBoudreau
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I think it should be mandatory to only do triples or greater
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ktd619
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That is the most retarded thing I've heard all day. Congrats.
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NPRM
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I think a style trick would be fucking dope, honestly it would make things so sick
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AlexFromTarget
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Lets turn mens slopestyle into womens
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TACO-DOG.exe
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isn't that how moguls became so boring?

they started to limit the amount of flips and grabs you could do to focus on style and form. i can only see competition freesking going in that same direction if we start putting limitations on the tricks.
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stickski
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Is there really a point in placing even more restrictions on skiing and forcing them to do a 720 in the name of "style" only to have them huck their meat doing doubles and triples on the other 5 hits? Let competitions be what they are, and let the other aspects of the sport be as they are.
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hail.vivid
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we'd see a lot of cork 7 blunts
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profa_212
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Because style is totally individual. One judge could love the competitors style, while another would hate it. Skewing the scores.
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profa_212
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Because style is totally individual. One judge could love the competitors style, while another would hate it. Skewing the scores.
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Mr.Bishop
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I would argue that all of judging is inherently subjective.
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El_Barto.
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I like it. We all remember Twalls zero from turbo but nobody is going to remember any trick done in this years slope at x
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skier_boy26
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Because having mandatory shit sucks. It stymies growth. It breaks the flow.

Now I'm not the biggest fan of double this and double that. I'm all for a Duncan Adams zero in the pipe, and for all things that ooze style. But damn, saying "you must straight air for approximately 20% of your run" or something to that effect is bogus.
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theabortionator
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Fuck mandatory anything.
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AFRICA
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zero spinning to the future
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ski0
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sw butter double tho
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alexg1687
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It's not just a style thing. In halfpipe the reason they demand a straight air is to demonstrate control and stability in the air. I don't quite get the logic behind this but apparently it's actually quite difficult to straight air in the pipe rather than do a conservative spin.

The same thing could easily apply in slopestyle. Rather than hucking doubles off every jump, a mandatory 'control' jump would show that the skiers really are on top of their stability in the air. I don't think it'll result in every single skier doing a cork 7 blunt; if anything it's a whole different area of skill. Think zero spins, snail-slow rodeo 5s and truckdriver front flips. All show control in the air.
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ChillTeenDad420
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yeah more regulations and rules there are on comps the better they'll be... FIS logic... hopefully the precedent set by big air this year will be how judging is in comps in the future, where a creative and stylish trick scores better than a hucked triple. it doesn't take a designated hit for a stylish skier to demonstrate that they have style
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stupendous-man
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I actually like that idea. I wanna see mad shifties in spins
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theabortionator
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If I had the ability I'd throw a slopeSTYLE comp where STYLE was emphasized massively. Maybe even cap rotations or just give horrible scores to anything that isn't clean and steezy as fuck.
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myllhouse
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I always thought they did too, but they don't. Louis Vito got second with no straight air.

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nutz.
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B&E Inventational. I'm super stoked on it haha
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Schmaelzle
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As someone who only straights airs the pipe... straight airs in the pipe are not more difficult than spinning. Fuck everything about spinning in a half pipe.
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joris.blanc
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There should be a slopestyle comp like at the Freestyle.ch where they have one hit style (max 540 or 720 it think) and one it tech a and they add up both. But have a run judged more focused on style and one on technicality. That would be an awesome comp to watch !!
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49566738265
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Everything but stylish 5's should be illegal. Then everyone could get the same score and tie for a refreshing change to the sport.
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louie.mirags
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wat? r u kitten?
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freeskibum82
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dont mean to burst your bubble, but thats xgames, not the olympics.. xgames doesnt have the requirement. but it does make sense that Shaun and Danny have huge held straight airs, both methods, danny's being switch method so upping the difficulty. I think for pipe, it may make sense but for slopestyle, the grabs they do in the air and their control on rails is enough to judge control and stability in my opinion.
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cp_7
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becuase then comps would be regulated and there would be rules. Not sure if you know anything about the history of freeskiing but it started because there was too many rules and regulations.

btw snowboarding pipe doesn't have a mandatory straight air on first wall. They just do it as a set up trick.

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YouAllSuck
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I think as the sport continues to progress there will be more style in the bigger tricks. We saw this at big air. Tribondeau was throwing a triple but it did not show any progression or style and he was not heavily rewarded for it. Henrik and Jossi both threw triples that were more innovative and showed style and progression, they scored nearly perfect on their triples. Gagnier was throwing crazy shit, and adding a lot of style and technical difficulty. As our sport progresses the style will hopefully be rewarded more and more, as we saw in big air.
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MeenaSmalls
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people would just do doub 7 the whole time and it would be the same trick over and over again
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cool_name
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There already is a competition based on style, it's called the powder video awards
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PegSlayer
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read LJ and time article in Freeskier. Style is objective and a style hit could never be judged fairly
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steezywannabeezy
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25-foot alley-oop ones with a mute grab
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saxon
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Because that means you're dictating what kind of hits they can make in a course. and that defeats the purpose of slopestyle - you're given the choice to make your run how you want it. And dictating how a skier has to ski their run - I am completely against that.
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CBoro
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all the judges care about is technicality
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chicken
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a 720 on an xgames jump is not going to get me stoked anyways. like a boosted stylish slow spinning trick on a creative jump or something is so fucking sick, but on a garden variety table top, with the best skiers in the world, basically everyone would have a flawless trick, it wouldn't look any cooler than a stomped stylish double.

I mean if someone can spin a 1080 smooth and hold a grab the entire time, and stomp it perfect, how is that any different from someone it in a 720?
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EARL
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It's not considered a "style" hit in snowboarding it's a hit to show your control. I'm not sure if it's even around anymore, but it's only applicable in FIS sanctioned events. Which is why you don't see it done by everyone in Dew Tour, Xgames, ect.
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El_Barto.
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In 4 or 5 yrs you think you will remember an trick from this years slope? Not a chance in hell. That zero will live forever
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broto
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>freeskiing
>mandatory
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hoodcrew
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need to bring back dumont's massive truck 5s
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Lemuel
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I think someone should throw a comp where the skiers all do a 0, then a 180, etc etc up to a 10 or something. That way style is the #1 factor.
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860Representin
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Danny Davis got gold with a switch method and backside 360 so they were obviously rewarding style for him...No hate tho Danny's a bro
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