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Dobies.
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Have any of you guys heard about this? I'm just curious what the general consensus on NS is. Apparently, the NFL has banned this Super Bowl ad from this seasons game. Personally, I don't see whats wrong with the video. There's some guys response attached to the end of the video.
Dec 3 2013 5:33PM
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uni-corn
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Create a trust. Still have to buy the stamp, fill out the form, and wait for BATF to approve, but it avoids the LEO sig and anyone in the trust can be in possession of the item. Just make sure the lawyer you hire to draft the document knows what he/she is doing.
Dec 4 2013 1:00AM
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Blurst
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Dude seriously? How many times in your life have you been robbed or killed or even been around a situation like that? Zero, fucking zero. Guns are useless for the average citizen.
Dec 4 2013 1:22AM
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pmw
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just to tie this back to a point made by crillo... how many times have you been in a car accident? 0? seat belts are useless for the average citizen. idgaf if you've actually been in any, you made blanket statement so i did too
Dec 4 2013 1:38AM
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Blurst
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Ive been in a car accident and a seatbelt probably helped me out a fuck tonne.

Thats a horrible example, car accidents happen exponentially more often than shootings of random people while going about your boring everyday tedious fucking life. If you are seriously anywhere in public that you actually feel unsafe enough to have a fucking killing machine strapped to your belt, you are either in the wrong place or are seriously fucking delusional.
Dec 4 2013 2:00AM
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k-rob
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terrible fucking analogy. by the gun vs gun logic, you buy a bigger heavier stronger car. by the car vs. seatbelt logic, you buy a fucking vest or you move to a civilized country.
Dec 4 2013 2:12AM
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40oz.
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That's completely your opinion, but the majority of people in the United States think like I do not like you on this situation. You just sound ignorant saying guns are useless. And all I'm saying is the risk of that something like that happening is real and if you don't think so then you have your head shoved too far up your ass. The government shouldn't be able to force me to wear my seatbelt and they sure as shit shouldn't be able to take my guns away!
Dec 4 2013 2:36AM
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40oz.
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And you're wrong again.

http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2013/03/state-map-gun-suicides-traffic-deaths

Gun related deaths will exceed car accidents by 2015 and many states have already seen this happen. Given some of the gun related deaths are suicide, that's why I think to buy a gun you should pass a psychological test or similar. But for you to say the risk isn't there is incompetent. It's much more prudent than you obviously care to look into. Just look at road rage deaths how they have increased because you piss off a crazy mother fucker and he pulls a gun on you for cutting him off in traffic. There are PLENTY of everyday possible situations, just like you probably think you will never die in a car crash it is just as likely for you to run into one of these situations. And I'm not saying that everyone needs to walk around with a glock strapped to their hip, but everyone should have some weapon at their home to protect their family at the least.
Dec 4 2013 2:46AM
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40oz.
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A bigger heavier stronger car does not make it safer. Look at the safest cars in the world they are mostly smaller compact cars or wagons. And you act like people don't get murdered with guns in civilized countries? Like uhh idk the USA?
Dec 4 2013 2:50AM
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k-rob
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yeah the USA doesn't make my list of civilized countries because half the people there are so fucking scared of being shot by random strangers that they feel the need to buy guns for going grocery shopping.
and that was my fuckin point you illiterate moron, when you want to protect yourself from other cars you DON'T buy a bigger fucking car, but for some reason half the people in this thread think that starting gunfights prevents shootings.
Dec 4 2013 3:05AM
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Davy.Crockett
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so what the old man just pulls out his high powered assault weapon and murders 7 people in his living room?


I love guns, i own several and plan on purchasing an AR 15 soon, but i still think the idea that you need it to defend your home is bullshit. The chances of that situation arising are so low, and an untrained person starts firing shots in the living room of their residential neighborhood is just dangerous. i want them because they're fun and interesting and cool as fuck, as well as being a constitutional right, not because i live in fear of being robbed at gunpoint by 7 robbers
Dec 4 2013 3:16AM
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k-rob
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/end thread
Dec 4 2013 3:23AM
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k-rob
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PTSD, babies, and firearms. all you need to start the perfect family.
Dec 4 2013 3:32AM
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987321654hgfd
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In that case he has every right too.

Since when is an AR15 "high powered." If fires a glorified .22. We're not talking about a .50 here, it's just .223/5.56. Nothing high powered about it. Now to the assault weapon term. All that means is it has some cosmetic features that somehow kill people deader than other weapons. A mini-14 is basically the same exact thing as an AR15. A semi automatic rifle that fires .223/5.56. The only difference is it doesn't have an evil pistol grip/collapsible stock/threaded barrel but when it comes down to function they're basically the same.

Top one is perfectly legal for me to own back home in NY but the bottom one is a scary baby killer.

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Dec 4 2013 5:34AM
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987321654hgfd
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Getting off topic also to point out how stupid the term assault weapon is, in NY state this Ruger 10/22 is considered an assault weapon and illegal to own because it has a pistol grip.

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Dec 4 2013 5:39AM
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Blurst
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I never said more people died in Car accidents, just that they happen more often. For me dying in car crash is a real possibility, I know people who have died in car accidents and it happens often. I dont know a single person who has ever been in any gun situation, owns a gun for other purposes than hunting, or even has the slightest concern of being shot on a random task.

If you want to protect your home get a can of bear spray and a baseball bat.
Dec 4 2013 9:35AM
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pmw
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here i have an idea. get your thumb out of your ass and stop arguing like some pissed of jackass. you made a sweeping statement for one specific instance when having a gun could be useful. what about a home invasion, which is in fact the potential scenario presented in the commercial. do those only happen in low income areas? what about this new knock out game? do kids only play that in urban ghettos? im playing devils advocate here. just because you have never been in a specific situation does not give yu any grounds whatsoever to apply your personnel experiences to that of the population as a whole. you're acting like some ignorant POS who's too stubborn to accept any rational piece of info going against his ideals. and thus, you are not worth my nor anyone elses time. peace braj
Dec 4 2013 10:16AM
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remove
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Daniel Defense does make some pretty quality shit. Love my AR
Dec 4 2013 11:29AM
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Wallisch_pl
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yes, hurt/kill.
Dec 4 2013 11:32AM
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deleted5
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See the problem here, I think people should prove they are responsible enough to use guns, before they are given out. If you're a dumb fuck like lesh and shoot it out of a car window at street sign while going 60, then you should be put in front of a committee, and have it taken away. It should also be registered to you, and if you get you're fire arm stolen and it's used in a crime you should also be held accountable. That is unless you can prove someone tied a rope around your gun safe and towed it out of your house. You want people to believe most registered firearm owners are responsible, guess what? For that to happen most registered firearm owners are going to have to be responsible.
Dec 4 2013 11:44AM
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roddy116
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You are retarded.
Dec 4 2013 11:48AM
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roddy116
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lol
Dec 4 2013 11:50AM
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deleted5
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Hahahahaha what, Is that really your argument? I can bet you that over 15% if not more of NS has been in some kind of car crash (it happens to 1 in 8 people) I have been in 2 both times i wasn't driving and in the back seat. Seat belts save lives, guns kill a lot more than they save. There are much better arguments that comparing guns to seat belts.
Dec 4 2013 11:51AM
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roddy116
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it all makes sense now
Dec 4 2013 11:52AM
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deleted5
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yes you're right, I was pronounced legally dead for 5 minutes, and saw that there was no god, that's why I'm now an atheist.
Dec 4 2013 11:58AM
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roddy116
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lol, totally makes sense now.
Dec 4 2013 12:02PM
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Casey
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I thought the baby was going to be black and the soldier was going to empty a magazine into his wife and baby with the Daniel... That would be a commercial worthy of getting banned
Dec 4 2013 12:03PM
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Turner.
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Considering your life to be in danger by shopping or (to paraphrase your 'similar situations') going out in public = living in fear.

Any discussion of gun control/gun rights/etc. notwithstanding, the reason you (and I'm addressing you specifically because it's you who made the contradictory point) feel the need to carry a weapon at all times is because you are afraid.
Dec 4 2013 12:14PM
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Turner.
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Goddamnit. Forgot there was a second page. Point still stands, but I've arrived late to this discussion.
Dec 4 2013 12:16PM
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40oz.
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When did I ever saying starting gun fights prevents shootings? You are the illiterate fuck, in the case you described a concealed weapon would be for use if someone pulled a gun on you. I never fucking said just go around and start shooting the place up it is merely a form of safety in case someone threatens your life
Dec 4 2013 12:24PM
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40oz.
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I went to a private catholic school grew up in very nice area and I know people who were killed with a gun along with many people who were killed on car wrecks. My friend just got robbed at GUN POINT two weeks ago at his own house by 3 guys after a party they through, stole his laptop, tv, money from wallet, cellphone, and some alcohol. It is still an investigation and I was at the party and those 3 guys probably were too so you can't sit here and tell me the threat isn't real. And when you try to tell me you could defend off 3 guys with guns with a baseball bat or pepper spray then you need a fucking wake up call man.
Dec 4 2013 12:30PM
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deleted5
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Yeah you kind of did (or some one in here did maybe it wasn't you) and it shows the one flaw with some gun owners. I think that in many cases guns can make you safer, and they should be used. But you stated that if 7 people break into your home you would open fire and taken them all out. you really think you would get all seven right in the 10 ring have them all drop and not get shoot or attack back? (inb4 that stupid post of well I just use a shot gun nice spread problem solved) life is not a movie. Walk around a bad part of a city at night get into some trouble and try to use your gun to defend yourself. You will most likely get shot after you try shooting to defend yourself, statistically if you're walking around with a gun you are 3 times more likely to get shot. Realize its not a 100% safe effective weapon there are risks associated with using guns.
Dec 4 2013 12:33PM
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40oz.
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No it's cool bro, but that is so far from the truth. I have my permit for a concealed weapon, I follow all laws and I don't always carry it on me. I promise you I have no fear for my life going out in public and my weapons are for two reasons. 1.) hunting or 2.) personal safety if ever needed. Idk about you but I would rather be safe than a sorry. But by saying someone is living in fear for carrying a weapon is ignorant.
Dec 4 2013 12:34PM
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40oz.
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You need to shut your fucking mouth, I never said that or that I would now 7 people for breaking my house down. But if they had guns I and I felt my life was in danger I would kill as many of them as I could. If I die then I die, chances are good that you will just let them rob you to pieces and then they will go ahead and kill you anyways. Dude this shit is all opinions regardless and the truth of the matter is the majority of America believes the way I do about the freedom to have a gun for protection.
Dec 4 2013 12:38PM
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Blurst
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Do you think you could defend yourself against 3 guys with guns with a gun? If your buddy pulled a gun on those three guys while they were robbing him he would be dead, not just out of some stupid fucking consumer goods.
Dec 4 2013 12:41PM
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40oz.
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But they could have killed him just as easily, think about how many workers at gas stations pull out guns when being robbed and most of them don't die, the robbers run off.
Dec 4 2013 12:43PM
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deleted5
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Does that happen a lot, 7 people break into a house robbed it than kill the home owner? The minute you try to kill 7 people by yourself you will not make it out alive. Again thank you for proving my point if you try to use your gun in that scenario your chances of getting shot skyrocket.
Dec 4 2013 12:46PM
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J_Christoph
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This just helps with my argument of why the NFL is shitty. Politicized machine mostly full of pampered millionaires playing to defend their egos and their chance for sportscenter top 10.
Dec 4 2013 12:46PM
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40oz.
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Says the guy who would have tried to beat them with a baseball bat or spray pepper spray at them. You'd be dead faster than shit, at least if you had a gun you had a chance.
Dec 4 2013 12:46PM
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987321654hgfd
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That's where training comes in and if I did end up needing to defend myself against 3 guys with guns I'd definitely rather have one than not.

This guy killed 2 http://articles.mcall.com/2013-11-04/news/mc-c-reading-kricks-corner-shooting-justified-20131104_1_two-armed-robbers-gun-carrier-adams
Dec 4 2013 12:51PM
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Blurst
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I actually think that every homeowner should equip their house with RPG's and grenades incase of attacks like this. I lob a grenade around those guys and their either dead or out the door way more effective than a gun, bear spray or a budgie.
Dec 4 2013 12:52PM
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deleted5
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I'm gonna say this and then I'm leaving for class. If some one wanted to kill you and take your stuff, they would kill you then take your stuff. Not hold you at gun point take your stuff than shoot you, you see the pint I'm trying to make? Your friend is alive, because he gave them his wallet. Be thankful, he might be dead if he tried to pull out a gun and kill all three, but because he gave them his wallet and walked away he can live another day yaaaaaa. Again, sometimes you should use your gun that is not one of those times.
Dec 4 2013 12:54PM
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40oz.
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Exactly
Dec 4 2013 12:56PM
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cobra_commander
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If linky don't want a gun, ain't nobody forcing him to get one.

I can't afford any of the higher end ARs like DD ($1600) but I thought the add was overdone and do more to hurt gun rights in the long term.
Dec 4 2013 12:59PM
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40oz.
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Okay I understand what you're saying and I'm tried of arguing because it's exhausting, we obviously aren't going to change each other's opinions. I am very thankful he is, but most cases like this robbers will get what they need and then kill, that way there would be no one to testify? Do you get the point I'm making? Even after he have them the stuff they could of easily just went ahead and killed him to protect themselves. I understand some of you would rather take the chance of getting robbed and then not being shot but I would rather take the alternative route.
Dec 4 2013 1:00PM
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987321654hgfd
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http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/may/07/nation/la-na-nn-gun-crimes-pew-report-20130507

http://americangunfacts.com/


Dec 4 2013 1:05PM
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arnie_grape
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howcome every time a commercial doesn't make it on the superbowl people say it's "banned'
they just chose not to air it, it's not banished from television forever
Dec 4 2013 1:06PM
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cobra_commander
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This is one of the more fucked up things you have said. If you said it to my face I would have broken yours.
Dec 4 2013 1:08PM
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Blurst
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Very true fact, most of the time robbers get what they want and then kill.

Thats why in 2009 there were 408 000 robberies and 13 000 murders in the US.

You must be fucking stupid dude.
Dec 4 2013 1:14PM
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40oz.
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You are so simple minded.

Actually in 2012:

Robberies: 354,000

Murders: 15,000

Okay cool now think about if you had a wife or kids and those robbers could rape some of your family and you could do nothing about it.

Rape: 84,000

Okay then let's say they don't kill you but hurt you real fucking bad, break some bones, beat the shit out of you, then you will pay for the medical bills and all the ramifications.

Assault: 760,000


Dec 4 2013 1:27PM
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40oz.
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But I forgot you would want to protect your wife from getting raped in your own house against a guy who has a gun with pepper spray? Seems legit.
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