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AFP "Social Rankings"...... I'm speechless.

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ESB
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https://www.newschoolers.com/readnews/43710/AFP-Social-Rankings-Introduction?c=latest&o=2

Hey guys, if you haven't already heard about how hard the Association of Freeskiing Professionals has been working to properly represent our beloved pros, here's even more proof of their dedication and influence: the brand-new AFP Social Rankings!

This shit is so gold that I can't even.... aghh...... glurp

Let the Newschoolers critique start....... now.



Nov 20 2013 1:09PM
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marsh.
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They forgot to factor in newschoolers karma, and jacket length
Nov 20 2013 1:13PM
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John18_6
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So even though Henrik busted his ass with Casabon and Bergeron on the inspired demo tour arguably making them the most sociable skiers in the world. Henrik only makes #5, while Casabon and Bergeron aren't anywhere near the list. Nice system AFP.
Nov 20 2013 1:19PM
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t_rob
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I'm a huge fan on TWBusiness's snow-exposure and I think it would be sick if it existed for skiing.

http://business.transworld.net/143429/features/october-snow-exposure-meter/

Nov 20 2013 1:23PM
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.Duncan.
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Why is this even needed? Couldn't they spend the energy on improving the sport or their judging system instead of this stupid shit.
Nov 20 2013 1:24PM
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Troy.
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Who gets paid to do this, and how can I get a job that pays me to stick my thumb in my ass?
Nov 20 2013 1:26PM
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TheBigApple
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So pretty much the lower on the list you are the more time you actually spend doing important things like working/skiing/competing/charity etc..?
Nov 20 2013 1:32PM
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SkierX
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Wait, did I fall asleep until April 1st?
Nov 20 2013 1:40PM
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milk_man
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This. Who cares how popular they are on social media, it matters more how popular they are on here.
Nov 20 2013 1:48PM
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Blurst
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Skiing is now 15 year old girls.... Fuck
Nov 20 2013 1:50PM
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t_rob
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So am I the only one that is completely apathetic about this?

It was made by Hookit so it's a computer algorithm that they're probably paying dirt shit for and are putting absolutely no effort into.

Nov 20 2013 1:50PM
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Bonzalo
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Hahahahahah oh my fucking god afp blows big time.

"These rankings, in addition to being fun and allowing for friendly rivalries to ensue between competitive athletes, will act as an incredibly useful tool for both sponsors and athletes alike. Since social media has become a large part of the information-based world we all now live in, an athlete and their sponsors knowing how broad of an online reach they have is a valuable marketing asset, which is precisely why we at the AFP wanted to be the first in skiing to showcase it."

Guess I'm sticking to movies, the industry is fucking crooked, we need to focus on the ability not the popularity.

Full list: http://www.afpworldtour.com/socialrankings/
Nov 20 2013 1:56PM
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Drail
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"These rankings, in addition to being fun and allowing for friendly rivalries to ensue between competitive athletes."

yay, question mark.
Nov 20 2013 1:58PM
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artrud
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Nov 20 2013 1:58PM
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Holte
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I've been trying to find USSA's official snowboard social rankings list for a couple hours, and it's really weird I can't find it.
Nov 20 2013 2:04PM
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SFB
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what a bunch of fucking goofballs
Nov 20 2013 2:05PM
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wiglaf
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Money.
This will be used by athletes to leverage clueless industry marketing departments and TMs for more MONEY. The sad thing is that so many of the people in charge are in fact clueless and do not have the ability to make a decision on the worth of an athlete any other way. Creating a meaningless ranking system does not equate to marketability. Ask Simon Dumont how many PRO model skis he sold during the height of his career. The number is insignificant.
Nov 20 2013 2:11PM
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EMK
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Seriously the weakest thing to be invented in a while, it needs to be taken down and never considered again. This is skiing not a fucking popularity contest. I don't approve of the idea of quantifying the "best" skier as it is, for your social networking skills to be considered as a factor is fucking special needs.
Nov 20 2013 2:25PM
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D-40
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Thanks Obama.
Nov 20 2013 2:58PM
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El_Barto.
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Thats one of the dumber things ive seen in a while
Nov 20 2013 3:04PM
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LC.
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Brands will care a lot about this and really appreciate the time taken to set it up. Just saying.
Nov 20 2013 3:08PM
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emopoppins
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peter olenick at 80
jf houle at 78
tj schiller at 70

but we got that big boi JWOODS at 30 so represent
Nov 20 2013 3:18PM
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Iraq_Lobster
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it's gay how afp doesn't give a shit about people outside of skiing. i don't think they even know what big mountain or urban is cause it doesnt benefit them. Fucking hate these guys.
Nov 20 2013 3:25PM
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reBlocke
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The organization that represents professional freeskiers comes up with a tool for professional freeskiers to quantify their ability to represent brands on social media, and therefore demonstrate their value to companies. Newschoolers is for some reason surprised...
Nov 20 2013 3:31PM
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danbrown
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curious to see where john ware places on this list after his recent big dew invite
Nov 20 2013 3:32PM
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Karma_Police
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Everyone bitching in this thread sucks as bad as this list.
Nov 20 2013 3:34PM
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cheener12
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how is peter olenick still relevant? he hasn't done jackshit in years
Nov 20 2013 3:37PM
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SFB
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but seriously this is fucking stupid.
Nov 20 2013 4:10PM
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Holte
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I actually looked it up after posting this, and there IS a Hookit index for other action sports athletes. Sounds like skiing is just new to the list. WE'RE BACK TO BEING COOL.

Check it: http://www.hookit.com/ai/

I figured the top scored athletes would be Tony Hawk, Shaun White, Travis Pastrana, but the results are kind of interesting from a purely statistical standpoint.
Nov 20 2013 4:11PM
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Blurst
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WIIEUWWWW!!!! WE HAVE THE 69TH MOST POPULAR ATHELETE IN THE WORLD!!!
Nov 20 2013 4:13PM
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ESB
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Moving beyond my speechlessness, I found this on the Hookit site (which I'd never heard of before now):

Why we do it
Mobile devices, tablets and computers are the go to devices for athletes to engage their fan bases and build their personal brand. Since 2001, our mission has been simple: from Am to Pro, we are here to Support the Athletes. We introduced the Hookit Index to allow pro athletes to track their digital exposure, quantify their value to sponsor and a tool to build their personal brand.

source: http://www.hookit.com/ai/learnmore.aspx

Never mind the poor grammar- sure, social media is becoming an increasingly important metric used to measure an athlete's value to sponsors. In hindsight, I guess it was inevitable that such a system would be developed, and some companies and athletes will doubtless find it useful.

The athletes that won't find it useful are the ones who don't compete. The ones who, I think, are more dependent on their social media numbers for sponsorships than, say, the top-ranked comp skiers.

Interestingly enough, Rob Dyrdek tops the Hookit Index currently. But Rob Dyrdek doesn't compete. So how the fuck does that work?

The list is lame any way you look at it. But it'd be less lame if it included non-competition skiers who find more value in their social media outreach.
Nov 20 2013 4:22PM
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Dan-Man
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I DIDN"T THINK SKIING COULD GET ANYMORE BITCHMADE



another step in the wrong direction for free skiing!
Nov 20 2013 4:35PM
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7-3instacall
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that shit is so fucking retarded..
sponsors will actually look at that more than at talent to see who they should sponsor.
social medias suck
Nov 20 2013 4:50PM
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Just_Send_It
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HA, GAYYYY
Nov 20 2013 4:58PM
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Rogge
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I have more followers than a lot of the skiers on that list. Can I get on there?



Nov 20 2013 4:58PM
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t_rob
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The AFP's Social index only includes skiers that are AFP members so basically every pro park/pipe skier. The AFP doesn't stand for all of skiing, the AFP stands for Slope and pipe skiers. Why should the AFP include non-comp skiers on their list?

So where are you getting this Rob needs to compete to be on the list thing from? Hookit doesn't care that rob doesn't compete just as much as they don't care that shaun white competes.
Nov 20 2013 4:58PM
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C-Wal
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Guess this could be why the likes on f the inspired crew are posting new clips everyday, it would be out of character for them to follow something like this.

Not a hiuge fan, but if it does somehow promote more social interaction with fans from pro skiers then why not?
Nov 20 2013 5:10PM
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ESB
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Only $35 a year for AFP membership Rogge! haha

http://www.afpworldtour.com/register/
Nov 20 2013 5:17PM
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ESB
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So, if Lynsey Vonn joined the AFP, just for shits and giggles, would she be ranked #1 on the social list? Or is that, like, totally not cool?
Nov 20 2013 5:25PM
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Holte
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Looks like anybody can apply to add an athlete (http://www.hookit.com/ai/learnmore.aspx). My guess is AFP just added all their members.

So go for it Rogge! Let's get you on the list.

On the other hand, I'd hate to pollute a well designed tool like Hookit for the serious users like Dorey, Margetts and Jen Hudak :)
Nov 20 2013 5:41PM
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t_rob
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You keep hating on it, but you keep passionately hating on it so you must actually care about this quite a bit? Why? Did someone at the AFP sleep with your girlfriend or something? Is there a vendetta somewhere?

The list adds pretty much no value to anything. It's worth one look to the right people and then it's lost and forgotten into oblivion just like buzzfeed articles. Yet you're still going on about it...
Nov 20 2013 5:43PM
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SteveStepp
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I need to be on that list
Nov 20 2013 7:07PM
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406
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jea boi
Nov 20 2013 7:09PM
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STAUSS
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why isnt brody leven on there?
Nov 20 2013 7:11PM
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heFF
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jeeeeze
Nov 20 2013 7:12PM
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PKNeison
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Don't know how they'll be able to factor in all the different disciplines - what it looks like is that it's just the big comp skiers
Nov 20 2013 7:15PM
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PKNeison
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Oh wait SOCIAL rankings....oops. Forget that^ I thought it was on about ability rankings derp
Nov 20 2013 7:17PM
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Spinoza
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Simon Dumont still exists?
Nov 20 2013 7:20PM
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native714
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Henrick came to Minnesota, ill i gotta say is... damn!
Nov 20 2013 7:29PM
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Forcillo
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I found this funny. Obviously Wallisch will win, he's the most mainstream skier in the world. If you search "ski edit" on youtube, it's always a Wallisch park edit. The top 4 mostly get ups from sponsors and comps, and all the little 13 year old kids will go like them on Facebook because they won x games or some shit like that. And nobody even likes Simon anymore.
Nov 20 2013 7:38PM
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p-fo
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You guys just have to realize that AFP really only represents skiers who take part in a lot of major competitions. I also think this "index" is completely meaningless, just like Hookit.
Nov 20 2013 7:55PM
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