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UncleGerry
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I think this whole anti-helmet movement is fucking dumb. Who are they to try and make us feel like assholes if we aren't wearing one? At the end of the day, it's a personal choice, so whoever tries to push that shit on you is a tad bit insane. Plus, Stept doesn't wear helmets and they're my role models!!
Oct 27 2013 9:58AM
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cultrara
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It would be one thing if not wearing a helmet only affected the rider. However if someone gets seriously injured, or dies, it affects their friends and family negatively as well.
Oct 27 2013 10:01AM
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brokenankles
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if your just putting around in the park, no helmet. But if your sending it huge in the backcountry or urban, helmet.
Oct 27 2013 10:10AM
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first_rodeo
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everyone always gets hurt when they are least expecting it
everyone on here has at least once randomly slide out on ice or catch and edge
plus the added variable of drinking or smoking
it's not like helmets these days are not stylish and comfortable.


it only takes one bad injury for mountains to stop building parks
Oct 27 2013 10:21AM
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Miomo
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That's like saying that wearing a seatbelt should be optional, and not required by the law.
Oct 27 2013 10:56AM
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first_rodeo
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friends mom survived a crash when she got tossed from a car that quickly exploded
Oct 27 2013 11:02AM
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cultrara
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Therefore, everyone shouldn't wear seat belts.
Oct 27 2013 11:06AM
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Lou.
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I mean I see where you're coming from, but... I mean... Come on, you would really risk you're life to look like a cool kid in the park "cuz yo I'm so sick I don't need one" and "They cant tell me what to do!"

That's just stupid. And these days they make helmets that are stylish and comfy, like why not?

And anyways I always feel more gutsy when I'm wearing a helmet so I ski better. But I mean, if you really wanna risk it, it is your choice.
Oct 27 2013 11:08AM
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cydwhit
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I don't agree with op (who is probably a troll) but I do think that both helmets and seat belts are things everyone should voluntarily use
Oct 27 2013 11:42AM
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j-cal
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Not my views at all really, but just a thought. I mean in skateboarding you dont make it into magazines wearing helmets if your hitting streets. People that send it on skateboards never wear helmets. So should skiing be held up to the same standard? To be pro and on the pro scene should you have to not wear a helmet?

Just a thought my buddy brought up the other day. Helmets are smart i should wear one.
Oct 27 2013 12:01PM
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Huck_Norris
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OP says anti-helmet movement is dumb

OP is anti helmet.


I'm lost.
Oct 27 2013 1:02PM
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humpty
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Just got a giro combyn helmet and its probably comfier than anything
Oct 27 2013 1:27PM
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Mr.Bishop
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It affects them emotionally for sure, maybe even financially - but I don't think that is enough of a reason to force people to wear them.

I'm a big fan of the idea that its your choice whether you want to smash your brains out on a rock or not. If you do... then more power to ya. You'll make a great organ donor.

Oct 27 2013 1:40PM
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cultrara
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I never suggested that people should be forced to wear helmets, I was just pointing out that it affects others and not just the ridder.

Oct 27 2013 1:52PM
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phyz
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....op MUST be 12
Oct 27 2013 1:55PM
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ankhou
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And what if, instead of dying, you become a quadriplegic and your family has to take care of you for the rest of your life while your body atrophies? Still fair?
Oct 27 2013 1:56PM
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LeEonbar
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i'd suggest wearing one, and like you said, anyone trying to promo otherwise is kinda dumb.

this is a mate of mine. stopped on the piste to wait for others. set off again, hadn't gone 50m on a blue run and caught an edge (snowboarders ehy?). There was the standard padded poles with netting stopping people launch into a cliff on the left side, but due to his rotation, and a minorly slack netting he caught his head on the 90 degrees of the metal pipe with no padding.

had a seizure on the mountain for what i thought was far too long, then suddenly stopped. that was the scariest part and he was super white in the face. kept him there whilst we got the blood wagon guys.

#thuglife :/
i'd wear a helmet
Oct 27 2013 3:14PM
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gunnagetwhooped
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dude your fucking retarded. You are literally what makes Newschoolers a joke. Kids like you who think there the shit and do what all the pros are doing. Do you have any idea what a helmet can do? My buddy would have died last winter if he wasn't wearing a helmet. That would have crushed me. Smarten up or get the fuck out of the game.
Oct 27 2013 3:17PM
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pastysmasher
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That's great n' all but (and I do respect your choice), what about the young impressionable kids who see you and also think it's a great idea and then have some serious issues when they smash their head.
I think a generation of non helmet wearers would be a baaaad thing.
Oct 27 2013 3:21PM
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cannaguts666
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No one gives a fuck what you do. You can wear one or not, no one here cares. It affects your family and friends but not us. Kill yourself fuckin pussy. I bet you won't do it.
Oct 27 2013 3:22PM
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TopherRitz
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Did that last line make anyone else feel like this a troll?
Oct 27 2013 3:27PM
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BagOTricks
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Yeah helmets are optional, and generally the only people "forcing" it on you are people who have suffered head injuries. It's just a precaution. You may wear a helmet and never need it, or you may wear a hat and never hit your head. But that time it does happen, you'll be wanting a helmet. Do what you want, nobody can make you do otherwise. But I like being safe.
Oct 27 2013 4:20PM
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UncleGerry
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Hey look, someone picked up on it.
Oct 27 2013 4:24PM
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Hodor
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I am honestly scarred to see what happens twenty or thirty from now to the stept guys and all the others who repeatedly slam their heads without wearing helmets. Ive been studying neuroscience the past four years in school and I can tell you that our brains are fragile. Large blows to the head are obviously bad but repeated small blows are equally as damaging. I am afraid that many skiers who keep hitting their heads without helmets are going have serous mental problems as they age and might even die early deaths. Just look at what happens to NFL players. Wear a helmet
Oct 27 2013 4:26PM
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danica
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We're back on this again... really? This debate never goes anywhere. People are gonna do what they want
Oct 27 2013 4:27PM
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Skibumsmith
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I agree 100%. I am all for natural selection.
Oct 27 2013 4:40PM
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Ghini
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+1

OP hit his head and was not wearing a helmet?
Oct 27 2013 4:47PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Its a cycle. Helmets wane in popularity until a pro has a near fatal accident, or the sport loses another pioneer - only then do they become fashionable again. We forget the consequences and thin margins in this sport too easily.
Oct 27 2013 4:49PM
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Peter10
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Are mountain use to have a pretty sick park. One old fuck trying to impress his grand kids hit the smallest jump in the park. got a concussion (not wearing a helmet). are park is only rails now. I was 9 when this happened so was just starting to hit the medium size jumps. I would be a better skier today if the old fuck wasn't being stupid. we have to build all are jumps out of bounds. Not saying i hate people who don't wear helmets... Its a choice. but it can effect people a lot more then it seams. (he sewed the ski hill)
Oct 27 2013 5:05PM
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JAHBRADOR
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NOT THIS FUCKING THREAD AGAIN.

THAL RAGE CAPS IS NOT A MISTAKE.
Oct 27 2013 5:07PM
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Caleb.E
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you tell em!
Oct 27 2013 5:29PM
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Mr.Bishop
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That actually is a great point. This is going to get highly philosophical in a hurry - because really if you want to take the stance of 'do what you want' you also need to live with the consequences.

What I would say in this situation is that if your family is going to take care of you post-injury, they should be the ones forcing you to wear a helmet. So parents educate your kids properly and all that.

This of course gets messy when you aren't philosophising, and you're now a quad and can't take care of yourself. Any parent or family member isn't just going to let you die... and you've now inflicted something upon them that was avoidable.

You bring up a good point, but its still not enough to sell me. There are a great deal of things that adults are allowed to do which could result in negative consequences. I just don't know where taking away freedoms stops once you start to get crazy.

Should we not be able to do anything bad for us? Ban alcohol and tobacco? Forced exercise? Those three things could also lead to completely debilitating conditions where your family was responsible.

I just don't know who would force people to wear helmets... and who would have the right to do so.
Oct 27 2013 5:45PM
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Dr.Dickless
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I think he took a recent blow to the head
Oct 27 2013 5:50PM
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mvf
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^
Oct 27 2013 5:54PM
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JORMUNGAND
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we shouldn't have to force people to wear helmets, they should just wear them without being told to
Oct 27 2013 6:02PM
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gingersteeze270
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All my videos someone always points out I'm
Not wearing a helmet. I mean sometimes
When I'm hitting big jumps I will but when I'm
In the streets just not feelin it. Street skaters don't seem to wear them.
Oct 27 2013 6:18PM
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HentaiHero
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Just fucking wear a helmet. Its not a big deal at all.
Oct 27 2013 6:24PM
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Skibumsmith
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helmets are in that grey area between meth and cigarettes.
Oct 27 2013 6:26PM
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Dr.Dickless
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yeah its still fair

its called freedom
Oct 27 2013 6:26PM
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DaneKirk
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every time i see this thread its the same old shit. there's always someone who thinks just because its a choice they have to do what everyone one else isn't. im not telling anyone to wear a helmet but im saying people who chose not to are just being dumb.
Oct 27 2013 7:38PM
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pjbagel
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You think the anti-helmet movement is fucking dumb... wouldn't that mean that your are against those who don't wear helmets....
Oct 27 2013 7:42PM
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RiskyDingo
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Ok. I'll wear a helmet.





Just buy my pass and we'll call it even.
Oct 27 2013 7:48PM
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Karma_Police
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If you don't see the pros of wearing a helmet then your brain probably isn't worth saving so honestly who cares.

I'm not a fucking moron so that's I wear a helmet.
Oct 27 2013 7:52PM
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Hippykillerz
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this
Oct 27 2013 7:55PM
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Willgum
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There have been arguments that not wearing a seatbelt can help you in a crash, but those instances are PURELY anecdotal. For every accident where not wearing a seatbelt would be safe, there are 10 where not wearing one would kill you.
Oct 27 2013 7:56PM
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jensen
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THAT CAN STILL HAPPEN WITH A HELMET ON

If the whole argument is that a helmet lessens that chance then I hope you are also wearing a mouth protector and fully body armor. Those things also lessen your chances of a catastraphic injury. Mouth guards have been found to be nearly as effective at preventing concusions as a helmet!!

IF YOU ARE SO SCARED OF GETTING HURT THEN STAY HOME AND PLAY JOHNNY MOSELY MAD TRIX

Here is the best solution.... SKI WITHIN YOUR ABILITIES
Oct 27 2013 8:02PM
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jensen
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and let me clarify... if you want to wear a helmet, GREAT. that is your choice and I am not making fun of you or judging you. if you don't want to wear one, that is GREAT too.

I think the real problem is that everyone that is so pro-helemt is so self-concious about how they look they need everyone to know why they are wearing one. OMG, people may think I look different then someone who is not wearing a helmet. Get over it.
Oct 27 2013 8:05PM
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ankhou
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Sorry, you may have misinterpreted me - I'm not in favour of legislating helmet use. It should absolutely be down to personal choice. What I hate though, is when people argue for personal choice in wearing a helmet because accident consequences only affect them. This simply isn't true.

Jensen; agreed. More personal protective equipment reduces chance of injury and possible burden on others. Therefore, if you're arguing for mandatory helmet use, you should technically be arguing for every other piece of protective gear out there. However I'm not arguing for helmet use, I'm arguing for helmet education, which (as far as I can tell), is what the OP is railing against. People need to know about the consequences of not wearing protective gear, otherwise they're not making an educated decision.
Oct 27 2013 8:43PM
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ndye
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woa hold on, it certainly shouldnt be illegal. I wear a seatbelt every day everywhere i go, BUT i dont want the government telling me I HAVE to wear one. I dont want the government making any laws that say i HAVE to do something which doesnt affect threaten the safety of others. That should be MY decision, not a decision which should be made for me.
Oct 27 2013 8:47PM
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Brule.
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JAHBRADOR 4 ORANGE NAME!!!!!!!!!1!!!!11!!!
Oct 27 2013 8:52PM
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Saac
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I bet you will wish you had a helmet on when you smash your dome
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