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.squirrely.
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Went to the shop today to get my used pivot 18s put on my new double times, and the guy wouldnt mount them because he said the toes and heels on my boot ('12 drop kicks, 28.5, used for less than a season, dyed them black) were too worn. he measured the width and it was a few millimeters below what they were supposed to be at. the heels are easy enough to replace, ft sells them on their website and they had them at the shop, but the toes would have to be done at a boot service shop. how would they do that and would it be worth it, or should i buy new boots? or should i just try another shop to see if they will mount them, i only say this because one the shop guy looked in a marker book to get the measurements and they are looks, so the size requirements are probably different, and when i look at the boot in the toe piece of the binding i cant tell what is wrong, even if the toe of the boot was a few mm's wider it doesnt look like it would be any different in the binding. thanks guys
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SkiTheYeast
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Id say go to a few different shops maybe ones that actually know what they are doing. my full tilts are pretty worn have about 2 and a half seasons on them and ive never had a probelm getting them mounted with my fks
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tomPietrowski
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If they are worn beyond din norm then they are not safe to mount. Your options are limited. You can have them ground flat and then have risers put on and have the heel an toe routered back to din norm. It won't be cheap though, we used to charge 200 bucks. I personally would recommend new boots. Look for some with replaceable heel and toes such as new full tilts or any other boots pretty much or buy some cat tracks.
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Session
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It shouldn't matter what book he looked at as there are DIN standards across the industry.
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tomPietrowski
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^exactly. If it's not din norm it won't matter what brand it is.
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japanada
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Seconding the above posts. The mm or two that is gone is enough that slop in the toes and heels can develop leading to some bad possibilities.
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.squirrely.
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ight looks like i will try to get new boots, what makes it unsafe though? it looks like even if the toe and heel had those few extra mm's they still wouldnt be in contact with the binding anywhere
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NinetyFour
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Can you post pictures of the worn areas?
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^heel

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^toe
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onenerdykid
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Alpine DIN ISO 5355 is very specific in terms of the boot having the proper dimensions that are tested for safety. If a shop mounts a boot that is out of the ISO dimensions, then that shop can be held liable if you sustain an injury. Customers sue shops every year, and no shop wants this to happen so they don't mount your gear.
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yeah i mean i know the shop guy knows what hes doing and he cant mount them, more just pissed that i have to buy new boots hahah, what would have caused them to wear down so fast? all i could think of was walking through parking lots and pavement, because i usually put my shit on in my car then walk in
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tomPietrowski
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That's it really walking on pavement will wear them down pretty fast especially if you don't really pick up your feet. If your going to use boots which have solid soles you really want to be using something like cat tracks or boot rockers. They help protect the soles and increase the longevity of the boots. Most modern boot including the new full tilts feature replaceable heel and toes which really helps.
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