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Worst experience with racers or a racer?

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John18_6
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Don't think it's a repost (there was a thread about annoying things racers do last month but this is about stories, experiences, etc...) anyways, here's my little story.

I was at Giants Ridge in northern minnesota last year during the early season, standing at the drop in for a rail, mentally preparing myself and visualizing a new trick i wanted to try on the rail. Just as I am about to drop in, out of nowhere a herd of somewhere around 100 racers from the Minneapolis Alpine Ski Team (who were up there for early season training) come blazing through at 40mph. I heard one of them say "Move the fuck out of my way". Luckily they were gone as soon as they appeared.

I was just standing there and I calmly uttered the phrase:

what
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FUCK.


Anyone else have a similar experience or strange encounter?
Oct 18 2013 2:22PM
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CKpolicy
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I dont think this is a repost, but let me quickly explain how this is definitely a repost...
Oct 18 2013 2:37PM
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steezburgereddie
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there was a little slalom race at my hill last year and my friends brother went in it. he thought did really shitty and i saw him sitting on a bench crying about it and then he found out that he still won the race and he was all better in the end.
Oct 18 2013 2:47PM
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PsychedelicMoose
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Probably when one of them called my skiing shitty, and I hit him with a pole.
Oct 18 2013 3:09PM
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first_rodeo
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 i misread as RICER

reminded me of the tiburon with a WOODEN spoiler i saw last week

Oct 18 2013 5:45PM
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Session
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No you didn't.
Oct 18 2013 5:48PM
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razors-chaz
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Once upon a time there was a group of racers and we got chatting and we both agreed there were different merits and skills to the subsets of skiing, we got drunk, were happy and became friends.
Oct 18 2013 5:53PM
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Iraq_Lobster
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thats your worst expierience? what a little bitch
Oct 18 2013 5:55PM
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hokkanee
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This. Sure there are some shitty racer dads that are way too into the whole competitive scene, but around here most people who race are chill and really strong skiers all around. Plus it's tough to complain about hot chicks in speed suits
Oct 18 2013 6:18PM
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NPCPLUS
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you are the worst
Oct 18 2013 8:24PM
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MartianMan
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Why always the hate on racers? They have immense amounts of skill, and they love skiing as much as we do. Just cuz they do something that is a little different does not mean that we have to make a rivalry.They are skiers. We are skiers. End of story.
Oct 18 2013 8:35PM
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BrokenBones
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Ahh the endless hate on racing by the young and clueless. First, racers usually ARE the best skiers on the hill. Like it or not, the thousands of hours many of them spend honing the basics of skiing usually make them damn good riders. Racing is pretty much the best way to get young kids to start killing it on skis. From there its pretty easy to learn other disciplines like park or big mountain. Have you any idea how many pro big mountain and park skiers have a racing background?

TLDR: Don't hate because they have baller edge control and you can see the outline of their genitals in a lot of their outerwear. I see just as many (if not more) entitled young park rats as a I racers.
Oct 18 2013 8:54PM
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John18_6
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also, they are just as disrespectful as we are. that's why there is a rivalry.
Oct 18 2013 9:04PM
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p-fo
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These men get it.
Oct 18 2013 11:40PM
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skier58284
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I haven't had issues with racers, but race coaches tend to be very inconsiderate, acting like they own the entire ski area. Some coaches are good and set up their courses along the edge of the run, and when they move it because it gets rutted out they just go over 1-2 meters. That's how a lot of teams do it and I have nothing against them. But then when these idiots come in and start their course at the right edge of a hundred meter wide run and have it go straight across and end at the left edge for no reason at all, and/or when they move the course over a long ways and ruin the whole run instead of just moving over 1-2 meters, that really makes me mad. I'd like to permanently ban those coaches from teaching and from whatever ski hill they do it at.
Oct 19 2013 12:39AM
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skier58284
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Please be trolling.

>edge control
Pretty sure I can shred the groomers on fat rockers as good as they can on race skis and you won't find them on anything half as steep as what I ski. Sure, they're good at the type of skiing they do, and I have no doubt that a lot of them could beat me at gates with minimal effort. Doesn't mean they're the best skiers on the hill; they're far from it. You said yourself a lot of big mountain and park skiers start as racers. There's a reason they start as racers and end as big mountain skiers. Because big mountain is more difficult, more dangerous, and better.
Oct 19 2013 12:44AM
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cannaguts666
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Mmm racer bitches
Oct 19 2013 7:32AM
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KravtZ
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Average Racer:
- Pretty sick edge control, can rip groomers, great ski control, can rip all mountain, may or may not be a terrible park rider

Average Park Rat:
- horrendous skiing form, cant carve well, thinks they are good at all mountain but usually just slide around and look like a moron, ski powder sitting wayyy back, good at park skiing
Oct 19 2013 8:47AM
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maximiliaan
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this is true, i hate it when a 12 year old parkrat is doing sick shit in the park but cant get to the bottom of a slope without falling
Oct 19 2013 9:32AM
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galardogod
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Nah most racers are gapers any way and the mountains i attend are park dominate.
Oct 19 2013 9:42AM
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theabortionator
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Obviously a repost but doesn't really matter. I mean park rats have been battling racers since thomas edison invented the twin tip.



I was raking a rail take off at gore like 7 years ago and dude comes bombing through and clips my board almost takes me out while hitting the "jump" ate it and freaked out that I made him fall and I was in the way. He was a race coach too.


Some stupid bitch and her race tribe of youngins game through the the park same mountain. They were all climbing over the step down take off that I had put a dumb amount of handwork into. I said something to her about keeping them off the bigger features and she flipped out on me saying that she was going to call management. I hope she did, never heard anything.

The gully, same mountain again. Had this park with it's own lift that you had to hike up hill to get to. The whole little slope was a park and only had park kids. One day the racers decided to set up a slalom course through the park. I don't know if anyone got killed but we def ran them the fuck out of there.


I have a lot of friends that race, I actually helped with the races once a week at one mountain to mix things up a bit but fuck the super douchey ones. Racers in some of the real competitive programs that are told they own the mountain. Also a lot of those kids probably had parents who were loaded. PS Idk If I could tell a good story regardless but I'm tired as fuck so deal with it.
Oct 19 2013 9:51AM
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Chinchi
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Moral of the story: don't ski at Gore Mountain.
Oct 19 2013 9:56AM
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theabortionator
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It's not a horrible place, probably will never have a sick park but it's a sweet mountain, lots of nice glades.


Very competitive racing program though and racers are pretty much told they own the mountain.

When I worked at west it was high school races, way more mellow a lot of kids there did both park and racing. Some of the kids were racing on twins as well.
Oct 19 2013 10:12AM
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Brule.
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I used to race for 3 years as a youngin' and stopped after fracturing my maxilla after clothes-lining a closed rope at Gore in '09 I think. I always looked at park riders as the ones with so much skill in the air and had the guts to hit bigger stuff. I then started skiing park in 7th grade, but still kept in touch with a few racers I knew who were very mellow, a few racer chicks, and one who skied park and raced. After 3 years of skiing park, I still took time to venture out of the park and spend time in the trees and steeps.

Also, a lot of pros today probably raced or did moguls before skiing park and getting to where they are today.
Oct 19 2013 11:16AM
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Brule.
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Also this past season I got back into racing by skiing on my high school team.
Oct 19 2013 11:16AM
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theabortionator
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It's def good to learn how to actually ski. So many people out there that can throw some sick tricks but can barely make it from the lift to the top of the park.

Oct 19 2013 11:20AM
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Se7en
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No you can't.
Oct 19 2013 11:36AM
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MartianMan
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Good luck with that
Oct 19 2013 11:51AM
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YouAllSuck
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I was at Giants Ridge last february and just cruising around the park with some friends. There was some huge ski race going on, and a lot of the racers were taking their warm up runs. I hit some rail, and right as I landed a couple racers flew right by me. They spent their entire day taking practice runs through the park and coming dangerously close to features, and other skiers. It got annoying after a while.

Disclaimer: I have raced for a few years, and a lot of the kids are really cool. The kids who think it is their entire fucking life are the ones that are really annoying. They are the ones that come flying through the park just to show off their deep carves.
Oct 19 2013 5:17PM
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RimJobber
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Went up with high school race team and we were practicing gates with the hills race team too because they wanted to run the same course.
I was in saga pants, tall hoodie, all more kinda park stuff, but had my race skis on. One of the kids from the hills team comes in, runs over the tips of my skis, cuts in line and calls me a bitch. I pushed him over and he slid down the hill like 10 feet and I got out of my bindings and had my helmet and goggles off and I was yelling at him about to hit him when my coach comes up, tells me to get off the course and to go ski away from the rest of the course for the day.

Lesson learned: If you stick up for yourself against a douchey racer, you get to skip practice and free ski
Oct 19 2013 5:25PM
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BLADEE
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Thanks for putting 'average', because I know a lot of park skiers that can ski, and I find it kinda disappointing that park skiers are somewhat know now for being bad at skiing.
Oct 19 2013 6:38PM
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theabortionator
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I had a friend that was fucking horrible at skiing but used to kill the park. It was ridiculous. The way he skied even between features was WUT and his style was interesting.

I def support learning how to fucking ski early on as a basis for the rest of the sport. I'm not saying you should only ski like a 50 year old ski clinician, but having the understanding of how to work them two planks is a big part of the sport, even if you spend most of your time living in east parkratville.
Oct 19 2013 8:53PM
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ErryB
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racing is like a robot, you go down a set course and everyone is the same, it's pretty much who has the most money to buy the top boots, bindings, skis and wax jobs

park skiing is much more creative, you can express your own style and individuality and it doesn't matter if you can't afford the best skis because park skiing is making something out of nothing unlike race skiing.

Anyways with my story, so i live in australia (it sucks) and i was skiing at guthega and there was a senior race day on and all the racers where using the ski school line and there was a sign saying not to use it, and one day my uncle was skiing at blue cow and a ski racer came down and hit him from the back then had the nerve to tell him to ski and that it was my uncles fault

and then one day i was at the bottom of the lift at MT p and all these 12-16 ski racers came down with their perisher ski school jackets on and then they had race tights on and some of these "racers" had twin tip skis and then on the week of interschools all these "racers" rocked up to front valley to race and had full tilt jumpers on, park inspired jackets and pretty much dressing as a park rat and then they strip down to their tights and put on lange boots and skis and this is my question now, if racers think they're so good, why do they feel the need to copy what park skiiers do with the fashion on the hill?
Oct 19 2013 9:34PM
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gotti
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their skis are heavier > wastes gas > kills the planet
Oct 19 2013 9:57PM
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OzzyJ
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when i was talking to one and i said that park skiing was better than racing and then he goes i have a pole and im not afraid to use it and jokingly i go oh yeah where is it? and he hit me in the arm and then i go that wasn't that painful and then he hits me in the shin like hes playin baseball and it hurt pretty bad and then his dad showed up (keep in mind this happened in like two minutes) and then he said i was a bully not knowing the situation
May 7 2014 7:08PM
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S.J.W
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During interschools last year at perisher I was getting of the chair lift and these little young racers were up the top and as I got off they were like Do those saggy clothes make you ski better and I just responded do those tights make your boyfriend more attracted to you. Kids got so butthurt over it and proceeded to ski off.
May 7 2014 8:12PM
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270on420out
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I never have any problems with racers. I use to race and my dad sets up courses for them, so I'm on good terms with them. The racers at my mountain have great park etiquette, aren't pretentious or snobby, and are generally chill people. It's weird cause all the 12 year-old racers think I'm a cool park rat, but all the 12 year old park rats at my home mountain want to beat me within an inch of my life.
May 7 2014 8:28PM
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MaggieB
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shut the fuck up if you're complaining about racers. Anybody can be a douche bag, that is seen in every category of skiing, not just racing. The best skiers I have ever met are racers or have a strong background in racing.
May 7 2014 8:38PM
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rozboon
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Snot-nosed brat racer kid opened their car door really hard into mine in the carpark, and his shitty desperate housewife mom just stood there and pretended it didn't happen. Fortunately my ski car is a beat to shit old 4Runner, so nothing of value was lost.

There was once this racer kid at my old high school, who didn't like twintips and was a bit old-school. But he turned out to be a really good guy, and now I've travelled all over the world with him skiing. Don't be hating on racers for being racers, there are arseholes in every area of skiing.
May 7 2014 8:58PM
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Skiingsnow
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these threads make it really easy to weed out all the ignorant fucks on this site.
May 7 2014 9:59PM
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Park.
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The referenced post has been removed.


If you had some Ace of Spades with fks you coulda told him to learn his shit haha. that setup is like $900+ new.
May 7 2014 11:14PM
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milk_man
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Just the way they look at you through those goggles on that streamlined helmet. You can feel the hate coming out of them because you are a park skier
May 7 2014 11:18PM
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J..H
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Up until this year I have been competitively ski racing for almost ten years. That being said I would always head straight for the park after training was done. The variety of skiing made me the skier am today, and am proud to say I can take most any terrain.

And yes I agree racers can be deuches when they don't understand park etiquette but the same thing goes for park skiers who cut under closed ropes and feel the need to try and ski down the course making a fool of themselves.
May 8 2014 2:01AM
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Paul.
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ErryBand then one day i was at the bottom of the lift at MT p and all these 12-16 ski racers came down with their perisher ski school jackets on and then they had race tights on and some of these "racers" had twin tip skis and then on the week of interschools all these "racers" rocked up to front valley to race and had full tilt jumpers on, park inspired jackets and pretty much dressing as a park rat and then they strip down to their tights and put on lange boots and skis and this is my question now, if racers think they're so good, why do they feel the need to copy what park skiiers do with the fashion on the hill?


Seriously? I don't think you know how many racers ski park. I raced highschool for 4 years and I learned almost all of the best racers were complete park rats. Just because someone races and wears full tilts/saga doesnt mean they "feel the need to copy what park skiers do with fashion on the hill" it probably means they slay it in the park when they dont have a race or arent training (a lot of them ditch training for the park too).
May 8 2014 2:48AM
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Frediboy94
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Paul.Seriously? I don't think you know how many racers ski park. I raced highschool for 4 years and I learned almost all of the best racers were complete park rats. Just because someone races and wears full tilts/saga doesnt mean they "feel the need to copy what park skiers do with fashion on the hill" it probably means they slay it in the park when they dont have a race or arent training (a lot of them ditch training for the park too).


Thank you! It needed to be said
May 8 2014 3:54AM
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Mids
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Could we take a moment to talk about moms and dads and their children inside the park?

Like, why the fuck a re you taking your children to the park when they're just starting out...

I was about to hit a jump when I caught a family standing directly behind the jump, I bailed out at the last second nearly eating shit. I slowed down and said: 'Why are you bringing your kids to the park? They're going to get killed." The dad said something like, you don't own the ski hill, I heard a fuck you, and something about minding my own business. I responded with nice goggles and went up the rope.
May 8 2014 11:01AM
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OzzyJ
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MidsCould we take a moment to talk about moms and dads and their children inside the park?

Like, why the fuck a re you taking your children to the park when they're just starting out...

I was about to hit a jump when I caught a family standing directly behind the jump, I bailed out at the last second nearly eating shit. I slowed down and said: 'Why are you bringing your kids to the park? They're going to get killed." The dad said something like, you don't own the ski hill, I heard a fuck you, and something about minding my own business. I responded with nice goggles and went up the rope.


One time there was a girl sitting at the bottom of a jump at my hill and a snowboarder landed on her skis and the her dad yelled at the snowboarder even though he couldn't have possibly seen her
May 8 2014 11:14AM
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Mids
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I couple of my buddies have gotten a lot of shit for trying to get head taps... One of my buddies almost got clipped for the day but argued it and got away with it.
May 8 2014 11:34AM
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Paul.
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MidsLike, why the fuck a re you taking your children to the park when they're just starting out...


I know that when I was a little kid I was always begging my parents to take me to the park. I thought it was the coolest thing ever. When ever they finally did take me into the park I'd hit the sweet jumps by the rails and maybe eat shit a flat box if I was feeling daring.

I personally don't mind little kids in the park because I know when they grow up they will be park rats too.
May 8 2014 4:38PM
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HORK
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hello John18061806.

Id like to call you're attention to one of your earlier threads that you created. It was from last year and is titled "I hate to bitch, but a it's time we put an end to NS hate."

Seems quite contradictory to this new thread you've just created in which you aim to bond newschoolers by hating on ski racers dont you think?
May 8 2014 6:02PM
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