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Group of bikers gets run over by a Range Rover in NYC

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theBearJew
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Runs over multiple bikers at :50 and then another at 5:00.
Sep 30 2013 2:00PM
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Sno.
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this is true. they'll first try and prove who was the first first aggressor, if you were, you can't claim self defense.

"The First Aggressor Rule is a rather simple common law rule that says “a defendant who provokes an encounter as a result of which he finds it necessary to use deadly force to defend himself, is guilty of an unlawful homicide and cannot claim that he acted in self-defense."

If they're unable to prove that the person claiming self defense was the first aggressor, then they'll determine whether the self-defense was a reasonable amount of force, which I think they base off of what a reasonable person would do in a similar circumstance.

My brother was assaulted and it went to trial. The guy who assaulted him claimed self-defense because he said that my brother inadvertently bumped into him at a party, and that he reacted in self-defense.  The defendant even claimed that the contact made by my brother was likely incidental and not on purpose, so his lawyers attempt to claim that my brother was the first aggressor did not work, and it was determined that he was. Then they talked about the amount of force that he used and they determined that it was an unreasonable amount of force and I think this determined the degree of assault that he was found guilty of.

I don't know a whole lot, just what I witnessed from this trial. It went to trial with a jury.
Sep 30 2013 6:01PM
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Wizerd
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That reminds me of this
Sep 30 2013 6:02PM
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wrong group. these are all crotchrocket and motocross riders. they probably all enjoy the movie "Torque" entirely too much

Sep 30 2013 6:12PM
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Sno.
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In case anyone is curious about the above story^^

Brother was at a party, bumped into another guy accidentally, a few minutes later the guy came up behind him and wrapped his arm around my brothers neck. choked him until all of the capillaries in his eyes broke and  he fell to the floor from having an inability to breathe. Once on the floor, flipped him over and punched him in the face as hard as he could as many times as he could until someone was able to pull him off. Apparently happened in less than 2 minutes. Guy was found guilty of assault in the second degree and sentenced to 7 years. He had priors.
Sep 30 2013 6:13PM
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BLADEE
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Sigged.
Sep 30 2013 6:13PM
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freeskibum82
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if they want to slow the traffic.. just let them. while squids are annoying with their flat topped tires and chicken strips wider than KFC, let them do their thing and carry on. the range rover should have just stopped and let them go. both parties are at fault.
Sep 30 2013 6:57PM
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Spagett+
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I like range rovers soooo much more after watching that video.
Sep 30 2013 6:59PM
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Sno.
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you didn't read the story...the motorcycle cut in front of the range rover and then stopped. The range rover accidentally rear-ended the motorcycles tire. They were all stopped for a moment and then the cyclists came up to the range rover and started damaging the vehicle and slashing its tires so the range took off.
Sep 30 2013 7:02PM
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Dan.
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your logic. if they want to rape a girl.. just let them. while frat guys are annoying with their flat topped haircuts and polo strips wider than KFC, let them do their thing and carry on. the good samaritan should have just stopped and let them go. both parties are at fault.

substitute any crime dude. they were breaking the law. range rover wasn't.
Sep 30 2013 7:07PM
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Snowtorious_BIG
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What the hell is the matter with all of you?? He ran over a lot of people!!! Who cares if the bikers were slowing him down? Those bikers could've died! I feel like everyone on this site just wants to say controversial stuff to get attention, but really it makes you look like an asshole
Sep 30 2013 7:17PM
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ILLinoisance
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He was in the middle of harlem being approached by like 50 dudes on feet in the middle of a road after they stopped him. He had his wife and baby in the car and it looked like shit was about to go down. What we he supposed to do?
Sep 30 2013 7:20PM
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Sno.
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exactly and the article said they immediately started damaging his vehicle and slashing tires. I would have taken off too.
Sep 30 2013 7:26PM
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alex=
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So much stupidity in this shit I just don't even know what to say.

The bikers shouldn't have brake checked that guy, and the rich suburban dad in the range rover shouldn't have started running over people. I'm glad the guy got his ass beat. If his child and wife weren't in the car, he should've gotten worse. On the same token, the bikers need to stick to the track to do their crazy shit.
Sep 30 2013 7:33PM
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LoathesRaisins
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Sep 30 2013 7:35PM
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first_rodeo
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Sep 30 2013 7:56PM
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SeanTom
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something like this.

If i'm skiing down the mountain towards the park and my girlfriend is skiing with me and all of a sudden the 15 people in front of me not only turn out to be a group of friends but also a group of inconsiderate juveniles who decide to stop short (knowing i'm behind them). If i bump into one of them and half those kids come up to me and start pushing me, you bet your ass i'm swinging my ski poles at as many of them as I can before taking off towards the lift. not about to get my girlfriend, or myself, assaulted because my fellow citizens were feeling overly entitled to the trail.
Sep 30 2013 8:00PM
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gohamsam
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA bikers are fags they deserved it
Sep 30 2013 8:01PM
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Gnarmander
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bikers + new york reminds me of this:



if embed doesnt' work... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_lijLYuw-o


how quickly can you stop on one of those bikes? i always see dudes riding them a couple of feet away from the car in front of them, if the car had to stop suddenly, would the bike be able to stop in time?
Sep 30 2013 8:48PM
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Gnarmander
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^embedded the wrong video... the one in the link is what i meant.
Sep 30 2013 8:49PM
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NinetyFour
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So much I didn't read any backstory or examine the video closely.
Sep 30 2013 9:13PM
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Bumblesteeze
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What a bunch of idiots!
Bahahaha one of their old clips:


Sep 30 2013 9:13PM
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NinetyFour
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Also relevant:



Sep 30 2013 9:16PM
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theBearJew
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How did the guy fall off at 1:00???
Sep 30 2013 9:17PM
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Bumblesteeze
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They even do this crap at Times Square!


Sep 30 2013 9:18PM
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GayWolf420
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While I respect my distance between bikers on the road and drive very carefully around them, those bikers were dicks. The dude accidentally tapped that dudes tire when he got brake checked and they went bezerk and mobbed him. Not to mention his family was in the car as well. Don't sit there and tell me you'd stand your ground if you were gonna get mobbed by 30+ dudes. Thats impossible unless you're bruce lee or some shit.


Also, That dude isn't gonna just go ahead and hop off the freeway and cut through NYC (which would take probably hours depending on traffic) just so some douches in leather can pop wheelies.
Sep 30 2013 9:46PM
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DeRizzo
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Hahahaha fuck the bikers and their stupid shit.
Sep 30 2013 10:07PM
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Anathema
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if i get swarmed by millions of ants and one decides to bite me, im gonna squash all those fuckers.
Sep 30 2013 10:20PM
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Willgum
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Squids everywhere
Sep 30 2013 10:31PM
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.Rybak.
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Yeah the person on the range rover wasn't going to let the chance to win with like 2000 points for running over a ton of bikers that are being fucking retarded.
Sep 30 2013 10:35PM
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PsychedelicMoose
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Driver: Click for larger image
Sep 30 2013 10:46PM
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Guck
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Most of those bikes aren't even street legal.
Sep 30 2013 10:48PM
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Logey.
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haha did anyone else see that guy break his hand on the window at the end?
Sep 30 2013 11:21PM
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cobra_commander
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If I was the driver there would be a few dead bikers. At least 17 of them.
Sep 30 2013 11:37PM
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XtRemE11
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I always wonder where people like you get these ass backwards opinions. i mean, is common sense just not something you have the capability of using?

Sep 30 2013 11:46PM
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first_rodeo
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HATED HOW THE NEWS PORTRAYED THIS STORY


crucial factors:

ethnicity


Oct 1 2013 10:26AM
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no_steeze
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i would've done the same thing...and then backed up and run over him again to make sure i killed him
Oct 1 2013 10:38AM
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.AR6rider.
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Sounds like one of the squids is paralyzed. Hahahahaha. I hope they wheel him to prison in his shiny new chair while making motorcycle noises. Zoom, zoom, motherfucker.
Oct 1 2013 11:22AM
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Stainr
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lolz^
Oct 1 2013 11:26AM
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Ski_the_east01
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I was so surprised at the end of the video to see the guy who removed his helmet and smashed the window was black....
Oct 1 2013 11:28AM
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DockEllis
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Justice!

http://nypost.com/2013/10/01/cops-bust-bike-thug/

"Police arrested one biker among a swarm of motorcyclists that forced a driver off the West Side Highway in Upper Manhattan, minutes before the man was assaulted in front of his wife and two-year-old daughter more than 50 blocks away.

Christopher Cruz, 28, of Passaic, New Jersey, was charged with reckless endangerment, reckless driving, endangering the welfare of a child and menacing in the first of two harrowing confrontations Alexian Lien had with a pack of bikers when he and his family were out for a Sunday drive."

I hope the find a bunch more of these douchebags.
Oct 1 2013 11:30AM
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FrysNation
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Oct 1 2013 11:31AM
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Sno.
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looks like these two guys saved the man

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Oct 1 2013 11:36AM
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bfulmer
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jeremy clarkson would love this
Oct 1 2013 11:36AM
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Sno.
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They even smashed the windows on the wife's side? She must have been absolutely terrified.
Oct 1 2013 11:37AM
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Huck_Norris
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Wow, came in expecting to side with the bikers but holy fuck I would have definitely done the same thing. I wonder what happened after they stopped filming???
Oct 1 2013 11:38AM
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snwbrdmilf
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...imagine how the kid felt =\
Oct 1 2013 11:42AM
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Sno.
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see photo above. from what I've read they continued to bash in all of the windows including the windshield and wife's side of car-- then drug him into the street and slashed him in the face/chest with a knife and apparently beat him either with fists or helmets causing at least two black eyes...that's what I've pieced together.
Oct 1 2013 11:42AM
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kebbek
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Moral : Don't look for trouble when you are vulnerable
Oct 1 2013 11:44AM
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Sno.
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No kidding (pun unintended)...in this photo it looks like the biker is opening the back door (likely where the child was) and so the mom is either getting out to protect or saying something. You can see the husband is surrounded.

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Oct 1 2013 11:45AM
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Huck_Norris
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Holy fuck my mind is exploding with rage.


Oct 1 2013 11:52AM
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