Help, my boots don't fit well.

how in the hell can you fit in a 25.5 with size 10 feet?????????

This. You should be wearing like a 27.5

It works. my feet measure out to like an 8 using those shoe fitting devices, but all of my shoes are 10s, and they all fit perfect.

Yall need to do some squats like bicthes and shit

Fine. live with your full tilits. Live with subpar bootfitting for the rest of your life.
BTW I can fit into 25.5 fine and can put on 10 mens shoes as well. It just feels like clown shoes.

OTHERWISE,
Find a Boot fitter who doesn't specialize in full tilts. Get sized properly. Put actual effort into Finding a pair of boots that fit better. Go to every racing ski swap that it takes to find A GOOD fitting Boot. Then get custom foot inserts.
I found year old brand new Technica infernos 110s from a ski swap for 300, UNUSED.
 I'm sure some fall ski sale Somewhere in Oregon will have a pair of boots that will fit better that your FTs.
If not come back to NS's and complain how I runied your ski season beacuse you couldn't find A boot because your parents didn't want to buy you another pair.

SPARK NOTES TO OP:
FIND A BETTER BOOT, EVEN IF IT'S USED.
GET A FULL CUSTOM FOOT INSERT.
(LIKE ME) EVEN IF DOESN'T MAKE YOUr Skiing BETTER YOU MIGHT HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT TIL SOMEONE COMES OUT WITH THE PERFECT FITTING BOOT.

MY BOOTS STILL SUCK AND I'M DRUNK!

ALL CAPS TANNER HALL STYLE OUT .
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
I HATE BOOT THREADS

Fine. live with your full tilits. Live with subpar bootfitting for the rest of your life.
BTW I can fit into 25.5 fine and can put on 10 mens shoes as well. It just feels like clown shoes.

OTHERWISE,
Find a Boot fitter who doesn't specialize in full tilts. Get sized properly. Put actual effort into Finding a pair of boots that fit better. Go to every racing ski swap that it takes to find A GOOD fitting Boot. Then get custom foot inserts.
I found year old brand new Technica infernos 110s from a ski swap for 300, UNUSED.
 I'm sure some fall ski sale Somewhere in Oregon will have a pair of boots that will fit better that your FTs.
If not come back to NS's and complain how I runied your ski season beacuse you couldn't find A boot because your parents didn't want to buy you another pair.

SPARK NOTES TO OP:
FIND A BETTER BOOT, EVEN IF IT'S USED.
GET A FULL CUSTOM FOOT INSERT.
(LIKE ME) EVEN IF DOESN'T MAKE YOUr Skiing BETTER YOU MIGHT HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT TIL SOMEONE COMES OUT WITH THE PERFECT FITTING BOOT.

MY BOOTS STILL SUCK AND I'M DRUNK!

ALL CAPS TANNER HALL STYLE OUT .
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
I HATE BOOT THREADS

Fine. live with your full tilits. Live with subpar bootfitting for the rest of your life.
BTW I can fit into 25.5 fine and can put on 10 mens shoes as well. It just feels like clown shoes.

OTHERWISE,
Find a Boot fitter who doesn't specialize in full tilts. Get sized properly. Put actual effort into Finding a pair of boots that fit better. Go to every racing ski swap that it takes to find A GOOD fitting Boot. Then get custom foot inserts.
I found year old brand new Technica infernos 110s from a ski swap for 300, UNUSED.
 I'm sure some fall ski sale Somewhere in Oregon will have a pair of boots that will fit better that your FTs.
If not come back to NS's and complain how I runied your ski season beacuse you couldn't find A boot because your parents didn't want to buy you another pair.

SPARK NOTES TO OP:
FIND A BETTER BOOT, EVEN IF IT'S USED.
GET A FULL CUSTOM FOOT INSERT.
(LIKE ME) EVEN IF your boots DON'T MAKE YOUr Skiing BETTER YOU MIGHT HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT TIL SOMEONE COMES OUT WITH THE PERFECT FITTING BOOT.

MY BOOTS STILL SUCK AND I'M DRUNK!

ALL CAPS TANNER HALL STYLE OUT .
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
I HATE BOOT THREADS

Your boots have packed out. You will only get about 100 days from an intuition liner so after time they will pack out a d need replacing. I certainly think you also need a footbed. It also sounds like there is too much volume above your instep. This again could be helped by a footbed and a heel raise. The leg volume could be helped by adding foam round the back I the liner but a new liner may be enough.

Overall though they don't spun like they fit you. Take them to a good fitter. You certainly need some footbeds. You need those in any boot so start there. Then have him asses the volume of the shell. If the shell is not to bad for the foot see if you can get a new liner if yours are packed out. If the shell volume is wrong, it's new boots I'm afraid. But go see a fitter.

You're fucked.

Should clarify, I don't want to replace them unless I can't make them fit with cheaper upgrades like footbeds. Sounds like some new boots will be in my near future though

^ start by talking them to see a fitter , but you may as well start with a footbed as you will need one with any boot. If they sort out the issues then you get an extra season out if the boot, and if they don't then you at least have the footbeds ready for new boots. Liners are a harder call though. A new liner will be around 200-250 but you coul get a new boot for maybe 400. So it may not be worth getting new liners. I think your liners are just worn out. If you got the boots second hand then they were prob half done by the time you got them. Honestly most people who ride a lot will not get more then 2 seasons out of a liner so if you buy second hand you won't have long left on them.

He said his shoes are size 10. That doesn't mean his feet are size 10.

From a bootfitter's standpoint, Full Tilt's fail hard in the skinny calf department. A 4 buckle will do a better job of holding your lower leg. A booster strap will help.

In regards to the size, you need to take them to a fitter and get shell fit. Shoe size means nothing as everyone wears their street shoes differently.

this one i agree with dp

Usually people wear shoes at least 2 sizes bigger then there actual measured size. I for example wear a 10 shoe but ski in a 26 and could go to a 25 if I wanted a real performance fit. So I would say that its pretty standard. One of the main things people get wrong when they buy boots online is buy their shoe size.

that makes sense, haha i guess my shoes fit..i wear a 10 and my boots are a 27.5. i've been surprised because lately most of the boots i have in b/s/t have been around 25.5

The average men's size is somewhere between 25 and 26 so yeah most sizes will be about there. Also a 27 would be a 9 so your still wearing a boot smaller then your shoe size even if only slightly.

i'm a size 10 street shoe in a 25.5 ski boot (both feet measure to 27.5 mondo.) to give you the quick answer... custom footbeds, a couple punches in the toe box, thin liners+socks, and an appreciation for a nice firm hug.

Go to a bootfitter like a normal person.

The advice 'go to a good bootfitter' isn't hugely helpful if you don't know one though.

I find these boot issue threads so frustrating - I have ill fitting FTs myself and I'm in a similar position: I'm not sure how to actually find out if a boot fits me or not. I've had my liners heat molded and I've bought custom footbeds. The FT Sallys I bought nearly 3 years ago felt fine in the shop but have bothered me every time I've skiied - so how do I know to trust a 'good boot fitter' and fork out another few hundred pounds on another pair that might not suit my foot? Is it as simple as 'do your research'?

Argh.

^ yeah and ask around. People will stick with a good boot fitter when they find one. But you can ask the fitter question to get an idea if what he knows. For example how long he has been fitting, who he I trained by, if he works with any of the big brands, what type of foot knowledge he has, podiatry ect. Also when he comes to fit you it should be a fairly common way of doing things. First sit you down and discuss your skiing. What you want from a boot, what you have worn I. The past, any issues ect. Next he should look at your feet, queck pronation, range of motion ect. Next measure you. Alway should be done weighted and unweighted. Hopefully at this point he should recommend what fitting you need. No boots but things like footbeds and stretch work he for sees doing. Next he should bring out a couple of boots to try. He should not ask you what you want he should always pick based on your feet. He should always do a 5 point shell check its te only way to know how it will fit. At this point he should be able to tell you exactly how the boot will feel when you try it on. Next you will try to boot but thi is only really to confirm what he already knows. Next will be fitting. He should always make or remould your footbeds. No fitter should use an existing footbed as they can not garentee that work. When he is stabilising the footbed he should be doing any shell work and warming the liners. Last of all you put the boots on and hopefully try fit well.

That is a simplifie version of what any good fitter should do. If they ever ask what boots you want, what size you are ect they are not a fitter. If they do not recommend custom for eds they are not a fitter.

Hopefully that helps you somewhat but let me know if you have any more questions.

honestly just go to a shop that knows what they're doing. They will either have someone that knows how to fit boots or can recommend someone that knows how to fit boots. Thats better than scrambling around the internet attempting to get information.