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Overshooting

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FreezerKid
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never really happened to an extreme but what do you do if you know its gona happen of a big jump, as in to prepare for impact
Jul 10 2013 11:54AM
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Coxworth
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get loose and grab safety
maybe try and get sideways
Jul 10 2013 12:00PM
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Toaster-Tony
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I try to either get my tails (or tips for switch) down first to absorb some of the shock for smaller smaller jumps. But for giant overshoots, I don't know that there's much you can do besides get loose and prepare for impact.
Jul 10 2013 12:05PM
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CaptainObvious.
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Bend your knees, put your poles parallel to the ground. Like said above, get loose. Drunk people get hurt less when they fall because they move like ragdolls.
Jul 10 2013 12:05PM
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snowpocalypse
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Make a phone call or two, switch my tunes to my crash reel play list, stop for an orange mocha frapachino, then drop my pants cus I'm about to be fucked. Thanks just me.
Jul 10 2013 12:06PM
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~Gotama~
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i have nightmares about this all the time
Jul 10 2013 12:09PM
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Stose
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I pretty much get prepared to try and reach for my bindings/sit the second I hit the ground. Be loose
Jul 10 2013 12:13PM
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90053
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throw your poles to save your thumbs, get loose, try and roll to keep momentum
Jul 10 2013 12:27PM
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RubberSoul
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you generally won't have much control but if you can, try to hit the ground first with your skis and then sort of hipcheck/roll the rest of your body to the ground.. that is, try to make the order of body parts hitting the ground go feet legs hips core maybe shoulders (and pretty much above all, try to not let your head hit, it doesnt take hits and recover the same way the rest of your body does)the way paratroopers used to do back in the day when they hit the ground hard

i can't remember very well but i vaguely remember some dude hitting the huge JOI jump naked a few years ago and over shooting the hell out of it, and i seem to remember him displaying a pretty good overshoot landing technique considering the circumstances. maybe i or someone else can find that video and see if that's true
Jul 10 2013 12:40PM
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juicedrummer11
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i usually try and absorb the initial impact as best as i can with my legs then purposely wash out or slide or roll so that energy is dispersed and doesn't hurt so bad. 
Jul 10 2013 12:46PM
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Coxworth
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smoke a blunt and stay up
Jul 10 2013 12:48PM
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steezy69
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just realize how big you went and stomp that shit like a boss

Jul 10 2013 12:50PM
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Wolfgang.
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As soon as your about to hit the ground prepare to pull some sort of ninja roll, its a great way to disperse the energy of the fall. Oh, and try not to land backseat when you over shoot. Practice makes perfect.
Jul 10 2013 1:31PM
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skiierman
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Here's some advice from probably (definitely) the most experienced member on this site in overshooting.... me.

Aim for the bushes.

Disclaimer: Mike Wilson may or may not have an NS account which would make him the leading authority on this subject.
Jul 10 2013 1:44PM
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Chinchi
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When I overshoot super bad what I like to do is get loose, and on impact shift my weight to the side so you can slide more instead of splatting on the ground.
Jul 10 2013 1:52PM
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MothaHucker
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Jul 10 2013 2:21PM
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Janky
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haha
Jul 10 2013 2:24PM
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petro
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i like that you thanked yourself, so polite
Jul 10 2013 2:28PM
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JAHBRADOR
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Just this.

I mean, you are gonna get fucked up anyway.
Jul 10 2013 2:28PM
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VerticalDrop
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sorry i didnt feel like embedding, but this is what happens when you try to stick out overshooting a backcountry jump...

https://www.newschoolers.com/memberphoto/141989.0/4-Teeth--Shatterd-Jaw-Bone--Busted-Lip?s=45362

happened to our shop manager out at Loveland Pass a few years back haha
Jul 10 2013 2:59PM
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CaptainObvious.
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Very important words. Know when to accept defeat before it's too late.
Jul 10 2013 3:03PM
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Ribss.
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The absolute best info I ever got about falling was go ragdoll except for your head. Put your chin to your chest, bring your arms in, and go with the fall. Just don't try and stop your fall with your arms, you will ruin your humerus like I did.
Jul 10 2013 3:24PM
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whipple
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bend our knees and absord that thing like crazy
Jul 10 2013 3:29PM
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Mag
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Tell me about it



Really though I think it was juicedrummer who said it, use your legs, and if you have to, transfer your energy.

& @skiierman were you talking about his undershoot?
Jul 10 2013 3:32PM
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Truetape
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sack up and thug zone that shitt
Jul 10 2013 4:38PM
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traylortrash
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I'm pretty sure I overshoot something in every skiing dream I have
Jul 10 2013 4:39PM
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tdollo
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Lock your knees
Jul 10 2013 4:42PM
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SterlingArcher
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Ditch the polls, and roll it out. Try to relax.. if you're tense you're gonna end up fucking something up. I know its difficult when you're comin in hot an all wrong, just stay loose and protect your neck. I'd take a broken leg or arm over a broken neck or head trama
Jul 10 2013 4:54PM
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RubberSoul
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here's the video i was thinking of. he doesn't do the paratrooper roll thing that i was describing but he does do a good job of hipchecking and spreading out the impact considering how fucked he is

Jul 10 2013 5:55PM
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Mag
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that was fucking terrible, he landed on his side, chances are you fuck yourself up badly if you land on a body part, regardless of the part, as opposed to absorbing the shock with your skis/boots.

However given how off balance he was it wasn't really an option.
Jul 10 2013 6:01PM
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Pigeon.
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Stomp it. Land dead center on your feet, then go as backseat as possible to transfer the energy and make sure you rock your tips up and ride away with maximum steeze.

If you can't do that, ragdoll.
Jul 10 2013 6:05PM
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DGski
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This
Jul 10 2013 6:07PM
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VerticalDrop
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here ya go
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Jul 10 2013 6:12PM
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a_burger
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Jul 10 2013 6:13PM
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Mag
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What the fuck haha, that first angle on the first gif is just endless, he's like a ski jumper.

Jul 10 2013 6:14PM
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YoungJ
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id rather overshoot a big jump than undershoot one... i wouldnt want to break my ankles
Jul 10 2013 7:14PM
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Coxworth
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Vila style
Jul 10 2013 7:20PM
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africans_eatants
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take both poles and arms and outstretch them towards the point in the snow you will impact.

this should shift your weight far enough forward that in turn your line of sight should be straight down your arms and poled

lock your elbows and pole flip the fuck out of it
Jul 10 2013 7:39PM
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homestar
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If you truly overshoot a big jump you are going to break more than your ankles. See Dumonts overshoot.
Jul 10 2013 7:44PM
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Karl_Hungus
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dont let your knee hit your jaw it happened to me and probably everybody else and you break your teeth and your jaw so dont do that just dont
Jul 10 2013 7:51PM
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s.parker
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i blew my knee out cuz i tried to muscle out the landing, i now learn you should probably let loose as hard as that is.
Jul 10 2013 7:58PM
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Mr.Gaga
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Start a backflip
Jul 11 2013 12:09AM
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icon1234
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Okay well when you say get sideways that is pretty ambiguous, but I hope you don't mean like try and land sideways...

First thing you should always try to do is either land forward or switch, landing any any other angle is a great way to blow your knees out if your binding doesn't release. Once you land try your best to transfer your weight back and then pop up your legs up and have the impact go to your hips/pelvis.
Jul 11 2013 2:25AM
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ttave514
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afterbang the shit out of it!
Jul 11 2013 5:35AM
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DeRizzo
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Don't overshoot
Jul 11 2013 10:17AM
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speedin
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How the dude on the JOI overshoot did not break his hip, or back is beyond me?!?!That was some serious height.
The simon dumot overshoot still gives me chills every time I hear the sound from him hitting the ground. Don't know how he didn't die.
People slip and fall in their bathroom and die, these dudes are falling from 50ft+ in the air to flat.
Similar to the Jake brown mega ramp accident. That dude hit the ground so hard that his shoes literally blew off his feet.
I read a story in the newspaper about a young girl who was wakeboarding. She wasn't very good, and was not doing any tricks. She lost her balance and fell backwards. Long story short she passed away due to brain trauma. From falling straight backwards going 13mph on a wakeboard. Yet we see spectacular crashes just like simon and JOI all the time. Some guys get seriously hurt, but a good portion of them just pop back up. That is mind blowing to me. Because being 30, I kinda over shot this 20ft drop at snowbird last year and I could barely walk the next day.


Jul 11 2013 11:29AM
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skiierman
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It's called forward momentum... and snow... and absorbing the impact correctly...


But thanks for the laugh trying to compare a bunch of drastically different scenarios and trying to make a point outta it.
Jul 11 2013 11:59AM
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Spagett+
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DO NOT TRY TO GET SIDEWAYS. I overshot a 60 foot jump to flat and thought to get sideways and fractured my pelvis is 2 places and was out for the rest of the season.
Jul 11 2013 12:17PM
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whynotski226
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HAHAHAH...this...one of which said calls should be notifying the ambulance on call you may be a couple of seconds from screwing yourself up
Jul 11 2013 2:32PM
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