Attention Adblock users!!!!

thanks to the giant repost, i'm turning adblock back on

also first thread found when i searchbarred "adblock"

And my question to you would be, are people still using adblock? did that last post actually stop anything? never hurts to try and help ns

so why not bump the old thread

That is a pointless question that could easily just be turned back around at you...

You were the one who made the thread in the first place. Ya shoulda bumped the other one not him.

haha he just doesn't get it

That's not really the point I was making, but ok

:*(

No Mosseau! Don't cry! I was only trying to make OP feel dumb. NS will remain the only exception to adblock. Trust me. Im looking at how a Phoenix dad made $3000 with this one simple trick.

I turned it back on so now I'm able to see how Ron Jeremy is able to make my dick bigger in 3 easy steps.

What if there were other options instead of simply using adblock? Would you guys be interested in some type of subscription based program that removes ads (and other handy perks)?

for me at least, no. I would rather not pay a subscription, and i really don't have problems with the ads like some users do. Maybe those people would be willing to pay a subscription, but i honestly think that if most users were forced not to use adblock, they wouldn't care about the ads.

just accept that people use adblock. it's part of the internet experience. don't think of it as lost revenue, think of it as revenue that never existed.

But the issue here is that it IS lost revenue lol...

do you think the person running a toothpaste ad on TV is saying 'damn all those people who mute the commercials and never buy my product while watching the show for free!!'. no. they accept that there's a certain percentage of people who will mute the ad and never buy their product all the while taking advantage of the TV program that's running. there will always be those people.

same with people who will download music for free but would never pay for it if it wasn't for free.


so no, it's not lost revenue since it's a market you'd get no money from anyways. maybe there's a very small % that would use adblock but would also pay a subscription if it came to it. but still it's only like 15% of people who use adblock. it's not that much. just accept it happens and forget about it. it's part of doing business on the internet.

No.

It's still lost revenue.

Mousseau covered a lot of good points, but I'll drop in some advertising education here.

Your point here is actually the reason that AdBlock is so destructive to websites.

The person running the ad knows that they want to advertise on television. The person running the ad on television knows a bunch of things about television - viewership statistics are inflated, people not only mute ads but PVR the shows, and that Television is the single best influencer in traditional media. So that brand selling toothpaste has no choice but to accept the viewership statistics that TV network gives them, and those inflated numbers.

Its actually a reason that a lot of ads are starting to push online. You get tracking, you only pay for views that actually get seen and you can see exactly what your customers did after clicking on said ad. Fantastic for the advertiser... all of a sudden they don't have to tolerate waste.

For an online publisher, as Jason said - we have an issue. Long ago many online publishers decided to break the traditional media model where you both paid for your content and viewed advertising all over it. We decided heck - if people are going to look at ads might as well give the shit away for free - that is only fair.

AdBlock changes the game because it actually stops the ad call from going back to the server. So the advertiser never even knows that the view happened, and as such is never billed for the ad view. Great for the advertiser, but the online publisher can only charge for what actually happens - and as such its simply lost revenue for us.

To boot, we only have the exact stats we report, so we don't have these crazy over-inflated "We're in 22 million homes!" type of statements we can make to advertisers. So we can't lie about how many people we reach, and we can't lie about exactly how many ad views they saw.

This is the reason you're seeing paywalls being erected around content everywhere. Users simply are breaking the arrangement of free content in exchange for advertising views. Sure you may philisophically say "Fuck that, I can install AdBlock and view whatever I want." - and you're right - the problem is that we aren't able to pay for what you want to view. Sadly, the really good content still costs money to buy, create or whatever. Every day that a new awesome am production company starts posting rad edits is a day that a slightly older and more seasoned production company realizes they can't be giving their shit away for free.

Every time someone puts NS on their whitelist, you help us just a little bit more. As Jason said, we're dumping anything we can right now right back into paying those content creators who need money to keep making their content. So the more ads you view, the more you contribute back to the system directly.

I'm not stupid enough to think that we can turn everyone. I know there is people out there that are going to no matter what vview Newschoolers ad-free, and there isn't a ton I can do about that. The only thing that you may see happen is that if we want to take content to the next level, we'll need to look at other opportunities to raise revenue. Money must somehow flow from the end user into the NS coffers, so that we can run a business and push that revenue back out into our economy of content creators.

So if you use AdBlock, and you refuse to whitelist NS - consider making regular small donations, buying shirts or suggesting ideas for what you would do to contribute back to the system.

bump relevant

fine fine FINE

donated. but im not whistlisting. internet banner ads are so 2003

Much appreciated!

Native advertising and product placement are the new shit.

lol yup

so Im a donator and I've bought things through the ns store, but because I don't allow ads on your website you're gonna make me look at this ugly red banner?
My internet at home is awful and with adblock off- newschoolers takes eons to load. So adblock actually helps me stay an active member on NS. without it I probably wouldn't visit at all because lack of patience.

We're not making you do anything -- you can disable the red banner in two mouse clicks.

For the first time in a while i turned adblock off to see what this red banner is all about. And really, it isn't even that annoying, and if you really want to you can use adblock to block the banner. But it really isn't that bad to turn ads on. I mean you see the site for free, and after a few days with them on they aren't even annoying. Don't act like they hurt you, and i have an extremely slow connection.

Thanks for taking the time to give them a peek -- and I'm glad you decided to keep us whitelisted!

Like you said in your post, the majority of the ads aren't that bad. We're running some remnant inventory since it's the summer, but once the fall hits you'll start seeing a TON more ski related ads -- which generally are pretty well done and actually make me want to click them.

Also look at it from the advertisers perspective. The people that believe in NS believe that our members (you guys!) are important to them. There's very few brands out their that value their customers as much as the NS advertisers do.

That's gotta count for something, right?

We owe you a beer. :)

I've never used adblock, where's my beer?

+1

Actually lets make that a thing...

Walk up to the Mooseman or I at any time, state "I don't use AdBlock" and we owe you a beer.

(note non-repeatable within same calendar date)

Screen shot'd.


It's always tomorrow somewhere... or yesterday depending on where you are.

I just cleared my cache and my cookies and now the adds are back to being generic (not aimed towards me). I am much happier with this now. Good way to help NS without letting the advertisers invade your privacy.

I'm under 18/21, what do I get?

Shouldn't you be extra excited for free beer then?

Redbull?

Mommy says I can't have redbull