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California police arrest man, and then kill his dog

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pelle_munch
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http://www.secretsofthefed.com/california-police-arrest-man-for-video-recording-then-kill-his-dog-video/




Sorry if this is a repost, searchbarred. But damn this is pretty sad

what do you guys think?
Jul 2 2013 2:23AM
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Mag
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lol

& from what I remember from the video, the dog was nowhere near the guy, and not showing any signs of hostility/aggression, and that's when he shot it? Not gonna watch it again and find out. Also anybody got a name yet? one person said officer salmon but doesn't seem reliable
Jul 2 2013 12:27PM
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HolySchimmel
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I agree with this 100%. The man wasn't going to run or anything. The police had quite some time to think about the situation and they must have seen the dog before. Its kinda obvious that a dog will defend his owner. And the man even put the dog in his car before he went to the cops. I guess he might just have forgotten the open window. Just a very unlucky situation that should have been prevented. I would expect a better overview over a situation from trained police officers. And I suppose they learn how dogs react to certain situations too (defending their owner and such).
Jul 2 2013 12:29PM
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90053
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you don't need to be a dog handler to be able to assess a situation and have some common sense, or even know where to kill a dog cleanly,

i don't think you understand how socially unacceptable it is to kill someone's dog...
Jul 2 2013 12:29PM
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howlongcanausern
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*allow your pet to assault another person
Jul 2 2013 12:30PM
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90053
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pretty difficult to stop it when you're in handcuffs
Jul 2 2013 12:31PM
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Huck_Norris
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Holy shit you're fucking stupid.
Jul 2 2013 12:32PM
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onLINE
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This is really sad and will make any dog owners heart break like it did to mine...

Lots of people will blame the officers, but imo it is the dog owners fault. He should have left him in the car wiith the windows mostly up before getting out and recording a crime scene. Like any responsible dog owner would do. This man has a history with complaining and sueing police officers its unfortunate his dog had to die for him to get a chance at winning a lawsuit. Hopefully he will not be allowed to own another dog as that was an unfair way for him to die. Officers should be trained to taze dogs though. His death could have been avoided many ways. Tazing him or simply listening to the officers would have been smart and avoided this. Would be interesting to hear of a cop dog getting killed by a citizen for self defense, as they are treated the same as a human officer.

Jul 2 2013 12:56PM
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Huck_Norris
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Look the guy can be the biggest asshole in the world, that doesn't mean you get to just arrest him for standing there. The guy did nothing wrong, certainly not arrestable and even attempted to put the dog away so he could *talk* to the cops. How would he know they're just going to arrest him without saying a word?? He didn't, plain and simple. You can't really plan for that.



Also yes, a police dog counts as a cop if it were to be killed in the line of duty. I honestly don't blame the guy who pulled the trigger as much as I do the two fat fucks who just decided to arrest someone for standing there and create the situation to begin with.
Jul 2 2013 1:00PM
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jblaski
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ITT:
Ignorant children jumping on the cop-hate bandwagon and adults with reasonable thought-out conversation.
Jul 2 2013 1:01PM
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elinde
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I don't think anyone likes you.
Jul 2 2013 1:14PM
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Huck_Norris
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Not one person.


Jul 2 2013 1:16PM
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fujarome
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there was an armed robbery in progress nearby, and they were trying to listen to the area to figure out where it was/how to proceed.

this guy rolls in with loud music, they ask him to turn it down, he doesn't. He then gets out of his car (music still playing) and confronts the cops


not to justify/condemn anything, but he was hardly just a random pedestrian going by.
Jul 2 2013 1:23PM
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LoathesRaisins
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By his body language it looked like he was saying something threatening. Hard to tell though. I think the officer could have pepper sprayed the dog too. The dog sees somebody yanking its owner around and its going to try and protect him. The dumbass police officer decided it was a good idea to lunge at a dog that is all riled up. By the way it was walking on the leash it seemed like a well behaved dog.
Jul 2 2013 1:30PM
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saskskier
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The fact of the matter is we dont know for sure why he was arrested. The guy didn't do what the police asked him to (turn his music down in his car), but maybe there were other issues in play. We can't hear what their conversation entailed. Maybe he threatened them. Maybe he has outstanding warrants. He has been brought up on charges (which have since been dropped) related to a domestic dispute. I wouldn't be surprised if he has more extensive involvement with the police. Yes, he is a plaintiff in a lawsuit against the police for using excessive force, but chances are there is a decent reason why the police were involved in the first place.

As for the dog, the police were completely within their rights. I think any cop in any city would have had the same reaction. When a large, aggressive dog such as a Rottweiler starts running towards you when you have it's owner in custody, it's considered a threat. You can't talk down or reason with a dog in a situation like that like you can with a person.
Jul 2 2013 1:37PM
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howlongcanausern
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What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot.
Jul 2 2013 1:39PM
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CaptainObvious.
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Hostile work environment.
Jul 2 2013 1:49PM
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90053
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you're kidding right, at least post a reasonable response yourself
Jul 2 2013 1:50PM
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JzD.
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Didn't the officer keep approaching the dog? That's what it looked like to me, so if a stranger approached me in the way the cop did to the dog I'd probably react how the dog did
Jul 2 2013 1:53PM
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Huck_Norris
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Did you watch the video? I saw nothing like that. As far as I can tell the first time the cops said anything to him they were arresting him but of course I could be wrong.



Jul 2 2013 1:55PM
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Petey.
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Just once it would be nice to see one of these videos end with someone else coming in and blowing the cops fucking head off their shoulders
Jul 2 2013 1:55PM
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fujarome
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this isn't 4chan.

leave the internet crusading to those morons. Don't bring NS down to their level by posting info.
Jul 2 2013 1:55PM
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Huck_Norris
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copypasta is lame too. gtfo.
Jul 2 2013 1:57PM
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howlongcanausern
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question for the mods: is this a ban since it's posting personal info? this has been your policy in the past
Jul 2 2013 1:57PM
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CrotchKiller
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nice job posting info about someone who didn't shoot the dog.
Jul 2 2013 1:59PM
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Mag
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This. Heard he was one of them there, but haven't seen enough information to know it was him that shot the dog
Jul 2 2013 2:01PM
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CrotchKiller
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taj posted this further up.

the dog owner literally spells out the shooting officers name haha

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1466773308001?bckey=AQ~~,AAAAAGBdRAo~,t2cIYZUexJ2HLdBYSBIAhhF2g1dnagVO&bctid=2520804003001
Jul 2 2013 2:05PM
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skithesprings
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I dunno man, I've been blind side tackled and had my face smashed into the sidewalk because I matched the description of a 5'8" male in a black hoodie; I'm 6'2 and was wearing a blue hoodie. The apology I received was that I shouldn't be around dark places late at night. I'm pretty sure that doesn't warrant having a fat asshole dig his knee into my back.
Jul 2 2013 2:06PM
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GRouseee
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That was disgusting... Made me sick to my stomach. I guess there's just some "bad seeds" in the police force.
Jul 2 2013 2:40PM
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ski4fun420
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More fucked up LAPD officers. Like the dog was really being a threat. There were people all around too so firing his rounds was completely ucalled for. Shameful.
Jul 2 2013 3:38PM
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Backyard.Skier
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Jul 2 2013 3:55PM
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Anathema
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well that didn't go so well..
Jul 2 2013 3:56PM
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ski4fun420
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Bruce something. It was posted on youtube along with the Hawthorne police dept. 310 349-2700
Jul 2 2013 4:13PM
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saxon
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that was horrible to watch.

and yeah, sure, cops are trained to protect themselves blah blah. but i'd like to think that even if i were trained and armed, i would resort to something a little simpler first. like kicking it and grabbing the leash maybe?

it's a DOG i wouldn't automatically think to kill it....
Jul 2 2013 4:29PM
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feihlination
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its very hard to say that they shouldnt have shot the dog in the first place. it didnt look very menacing, but thats hard to evaluate. if the dog grabs one of the police officers, they cant just shoot at it because their colleague might get hit as well.

but if you put two or three bullets into literally anything and then just watch it bleed to death, thats pretty fucked.

this situation should have been handled a lot better. reminds me of this dude with a pipe cleaner infront of this fast food restaurant. people with such loose fingers shouldnt be policeman.
Jul 2 2013 4:34PM
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Dustin.
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Ya then we could enjoy life like every other third world country. Holy shit you can't be serious. Be mature enough to acknowledge that the situation sucked for both parties and what went down is regrettable. You're letting emotions cloud your judgement, no one in this video handled the situation as best they could.

For starters, if I was going to start a fight with anyone....I WOULDN'T TAKE MY FUCKING KIDS, WIFE, OR MY FUCKING DOG WITH ME
Jul 2 2013 4:45PM
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Dustin.
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The dog lunged at the cop when he tried to grab the leash unfortunately, obviously the dog reacted as a large dog would and it probably scared the shit out of the cop considering he was already so scared he decided to draw a weapon. Rottweilers are scary if you aren't around them a lot.

It wasn't pleasant, but I watched the end of the video a bunch of times to get a better grasp of what caused the guy to shoot.
Jul 2 2013 4:47PM
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howlongcanausern
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with great power comes great responsibility...firing your firearm should be last resort.

is getting assaulted by a large and deadly breed of dog worth discharging a firearm?
Jul 2 2013 4:51PM
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Dingo69
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Police kill dogs, its ok because sometimes people kill police. Then everybody is happy
Jul 2 2013 5:05PM
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90053
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he didn't even get bitten though..
Jul 2 2013 5:07PM
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987321654hgfd
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Because he blasted the dog before it could bite him.
Jul 2 2013 5:16PM
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Dingo69
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Shut the fuck up you whore
Jul 2 2013 5:24PM
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LoathesRaisins
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Another asshole police officer.
I hear someone say Officer Davis from Mesquite Police Department.

Jul 2 2013 5:39PM
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Dustin.
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Probably, but I still think it was unreasonable and poorly handled. If he shot the gun at the grass once that dog would have backed off, but in the heat of the moment he could have done something equally damaging.

This was just not thought out at all and everyone involved really fucked up each others day. The guy shouldn't have been a douche and shouldn't have brought his dog, and the cops should have had a plan considering they could see him walking around with a Rottweiler for however long and it was obviously going to be an issue.

Everyone involved just went full retard and the dog got the full brunt of both parties' stupidity.
Jul 2 2013 5:47PM
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Dustin.
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That's simply moron, not someone displaying bad judgement leading up to a dicey situation. Can't be hard to deal with even the most aggressive baby squirrel in the world without military grade pepper spray...
Jul 2 2013 5:52PM
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CaptainObvious.
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I learned my lesson with the first fucking video. I will not watch any more videos on this thread.
Jul 2 2013 5:57PM
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saskskier
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Police don't fire warning shots.
Jul 2 2013 6:02PM
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alex=
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Actually they're working dogs. Not "killing" dogs. Haha you're pretty funny, I like you
Jul 2 2013 6:04PM
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Dingo69
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We should have a public sacrifice of all cops that have shot dogs. That would be great
Jul 2 2013 6:15PM
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edai
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jesus
Jul 2 2013 6:27PM
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Huck_Norris
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I'm going home thank Christ- but I bet this has at least 5 pages tomorrow morning, and that it gets increasingly capslocked as the night goes on.


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