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Official 2013/2014 NHL Thread

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PacificRimJob
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Chicago gets the lockout cup for the summer. Lets start next season off, and hope somebody fucking new wins it, damnit. Summer transactions are up soon, so this should get started fast.

Fuck LA.


Jun 24 2013 11:09PM
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J.D.
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Also if people were wondering about Luongo's reaction to the hire, here is his tweet about it:

"I'M WILLING TO STAY, BE THE BACK UP AND PLAY FOR FREE IF THEY LET ME SIT IN AT EVERY TORTS PRESSER! #MAN #MYTH #LEGEND"

Jun 27 2013 11:18AM
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Ski_the_east01
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hahaha luo's twitter game is pretty great. I remember seeing some tweets about the goalie controversy after the lockout ended that were funny

I wouldn't be surprised to see lecavlier get $5M+ but is he really worth it? Great player no doubt, but getting up there in age, plus his productivity has steadily declined since they won however many years ago and he had a couple monster seasons.

Jun 27 2013 11:27AM
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Contender
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Montreal has 9M in cap space to play with.  I would be so happy if they could get him in the 4-5 mil range.  DO IT MARC!  Trade DD51 and you get another 3.5mil in cap space.
Jun 27 2013 11:28AM
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J.D.
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Please see what Shane Doan is currently being paid and compare the two. Lecavalier is still a 0.8 PPG player, that's a very good 2nd liner which is exactly what he's been in TBL. I would say 4 years 20M is roughly what I'd think. If someone's willing to sign him for 6 years the hit will obviously drop.
Jun 27 2013 11:42AM
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RDS.ca already has Vinny in a Habs jersey..hahahaha.

But seriously come home #40
Jun 27 2013 11:45AM
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corona
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Habs seems likely.. but if they want to save their money Ottawa has plenty of space for a 5 mill player.
Jun 27 2013 3:49PM
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Bumblesteeze
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I found this article http://www.sptimes.com/2005/09/21/Lightning/For_a_day__Lecavalier.shtml
Jun 27 2013 4:16PM
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The last time he was a UFA, didnt he say that it was either MTL or Tampa?  Seems like such an easy choice now, finish your career as a superstar in your hometown playing for your favorite team.  He will get so many endorsement deals as well.

Imagine if he went to Toronto? Montreal would riot.
Jun 27 2013 4:25PM
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GayWolf420
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Letang wants leafs and VLC will most likely go to the habs.
Jun 27 2013 4:27PM
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Elijah.
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I hear ya. Briere was a stand up individual off the ice. I remember the last couple times I saw the Flyers play at Vancouver, he was always the last one off the ice for warm ups. I can only hope Mr. Playoffs finds a solid deal somewhere else, any team looking for a solid veteran would be happy to have him (despite his defensive [can we even call it that?] shenanigans.)

As far as the Bryz deal goes, that was the easiest $21mil a goalie ever had to make. They fucked themselves over cap-wise, and this is the only foreseeable way out.. Doesn't make it any easier to swallow though.

Now the Flyers are going to have to trade one of their blue liners, because they've got way too much cap-space locked in on that side (especially with the Streit deal.) I wouldn't be surprised to see Coburn or Meszaros get dealt on draft day.

I've heard some rumors that when Lu gets bought out (how could they possibly keep that contract) he might end up in the orange and black. I still am unsure how to feel about that (though Mason has yet to show his prowess as a starter for an extended period of time.)

Sunday is going to be so interesting.


Jun 27 2013 4:29PM
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Contender
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If DD gets moved

Bourque-Plek-Gio
Pacioretty-Vinny-Gally
Chucky-Eller-FA signing/Kristo maybe
Moen-White/FA Signing (Hendricks perhaps)-Prust

Feels good man

Jun 27 2013 4:38PM
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J.D.
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They. Are. Not. Buying. Him. Out. For the last fucking time, Jesus. They can trade him at the draft for a pick, at the very least.

Jun 27 2013 4:45PM
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Bumblesteeze
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So good

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Jun 27 2013 4:45PM
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ThaLorax
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It's almost July. Shouldn't we be talking about girls at the beach and not putting razors on your shoes and sliding around on ice while slapping a ball with a lot of testosterone?
Jun 27 2013 4:54PM
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Contender
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#Plantheparadeboys

July 5th got so much better with these buyouts
Jun 27 2013 5:22PM
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.frenchy
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NOOO! J'aime David :/
Jun 27 2013 5:34PM
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Elijah.
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Heh, wouldn't be the NHL thread without someone getting owned by JD. I'm just sad that it's me.

Who's going to bite on the trade (in your opinion?)
Jun 27 2013 5:42PM
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Contender
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Vinnys looking for a contract that will take him to retirement apparently so that kind of shuts down any idea of a 1 year deal then going back to the Bolts.

Front runners are apparently the wings and habs
Jun 27 2013 6:49PM
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PacificRimJob
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Shut up, Nick. This is the height of the NHL offseason, and so far, the rosterbation is exciting!
Jun 27 2013 7:25PM
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Backyard.Skier
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i swear to god if letang goes to toronto....
Jun 27 2013 7:30PM
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GayWolf420
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Just hit me no hockey on TV until preseason...


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Jun 27 2013 8:57PM
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Contender
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Draft and Free Agent day will keep you sated
Jun 28 2013 12:30PM
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Charlie_Kelly
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Ferrence will be missed, Jags was meh (not saying bad just not saying he did exceptional either),and Pandolfo will only be missed because he was one of the few Americans on the team.

I would love to see the B's pick up an all-star (i.e. a Patrick Kane/Sydney Crosby) of sorts though it will probably never happen. Not saying the O is bad, we have some fucking awesome players up there, just imagining how much more potent the offence would be with a player like that up there.
Jun 28 2013 12:39PM
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Ski_the_east01
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I think people are also undervaluing Ferrence, he played a very quiet, solid game that added a lot of grit to the back half of the d squad.

No way they pick up a stud for this season, simply no cap room as it comes down to 64M. They don't have much space to play with as is and they're already worrying about dropping salary just to sign tuuk and berg who are going to command (rightfully so) some big numbers. They're probably going to make bergeron a lifer so that will be a pretty big cap hit and tuuka is rumored to get around 6-7yrs at 9-10M.

After next season I think they have tons of players to move around that are becoming UFA's. It will be interesting to see how the next couple seasons go. If you make a move for a big name impact player it will be going into the 15-16 season
Jun 28 2013 12:50PM
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Contender
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9-10 mil per year average? thats ridiculous overpayment
Jun 28 2013 1:26PM
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J.D.
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Tuuka should be looking at 7 years at around $6M per AAV if you ask me. Basically, not too far off of Carey Price's contract.
Jun 28 2013 1:50PM
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Ski_the_east01
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yeah I fucked that up pretty good, thanks for pointing that out.

I meant to say 6-7yrs at 6-7M but instead of writing it 6yr/40M like a normal person I tried being an idiot and writing it in a stupid ass way that confused myself haha
Jun 28 2013 1:53PM
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LoathesRaisins
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BREAKING NEWS -
CHICAGO—Over the course of the 45-minute victory parade held Friday morning to celebrate the Chicago Blackhawks’ NHL championship, the Stanley Cup sustained nearly a dozen gunshot wounds, city police officials have confirmed. “Multiple gun-wielding individuals, all appearing to operate independently, fired approximately 25 shots at the trophy, resulting in 11 direct hits,” said Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy, who confirmed the famous trophy’s injuries may leave many of the names of past champions engraved upon it permanently illegible, including the entire roster of the 1999 Dallas Stars. “We are seeking any information regarding the current whereabouts of the Cup’s assailants, as well as the identities of the 1.3 million revelers facing charges of public intoxication.” Parade coordinators reportedly elected to continue the rally, stating that the crowds of Chicagoans did not seem at all fazed by the gunfire
Jun 28 2013 1:56PM
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GayWolf420
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Compared to the heats parade: Click for larger image
Jun 28 2013 2:17PM
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erica
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one of these years it's going to happen
Jun 28 2013 2:18PM
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J.D.
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Where's all the rosterbating in this thread? Begin lineup mathematicals. Highlight changes.

Note: cap for next year is $64.3M so put the numbers in. Bold your free agent signings, italicize your re-signings of current players. So if you're slotting Clarkson into Boston's lineup tell me what you think he and everyone else is getting paid, because then we can tell if you're being ridiculous. Otherwise your post is worthless. See capgeek.com or nhlnumbers.com for players' current cap hits.

2013-2104 Vancouver Canucks per JD

Sedin (6.1) Sedin (6.1) Burrows (4.5)

Booth (4.25) Kesler (5) Hansen (1.3)

Higgins (2.5) Gordon (2.0) Kassian (.870)

Schroeder (1.0) Lapierre (1.3) Weise (.800)

Sestito (.750)

Hamhuis (4.5) Garrison (4.6)

Edler (5) Bieksa (4.6)

Corrado (0.600) Tanev (1.3)

Fistric (1.1)

Schneider (4.0)

Lack (.750)

Total cap hit: $62.92M

Cap Space: $1.38M

Basically the same team as last year, minus Ballard and Luongo, plus Boyd Gordon and Mark Fistric and with more of the young guys in the lineup. There's no room to do anything else but add depth. Which is why the whole "HEY GUYS YOU KNOW WHAT WE SHOULD TOTES SIGN LECAVALIER" stuff is just nonsensical. At this point we can't even afford Raymond. It's a cap crunch year and the Canucks should be happy to ice two first line quality centres, four top four Dmen and a top 10 goalie while still remaining under the cap.

Re-signings are Tanev for 1.3M, which seems about right given Marco Scandella's recent contract at 1.0M, Schroder at 1.0M (could be as high as 1.25M, but there's room for that), Lapierre at 1.3M (which seems like a bit of an overpayment, and he may actually end up leaving), and Dale Weise for 800k (because that's just what he's worth right now, tops).

The hope is that Kassian plays well enough to move up to the top 6, in which case you can move Hansen back down and get a very strong third line. The good thing about this roster is that it has an extra center (Schroeder) and bunch of guys who can move up and down the lineup easily. It is also insanely fast. The downside is that you are relying heavily on Kesler being healthy, and hoping Corrado can play 12-15 minutes at the NHL level (because that's how Vancouver's defense is deployed).
Jun 28 2013 2:23PM
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Yeah Price/Henrik/Ward money seems alot more reasonable. 
Jun 28 2013 4:14PM
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corona
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Alfie is back! He's key for all the young players right now. also one of the classiest players in the league. great stuff.
Jun 28 2013 4:24PM
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PacificRimJob
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I'm going to go this route...

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
San Jose per Sean
FORWARDS
T.J. Galiardi ($1.200m) / Joe Thornton ($7.000m) / Brent Burns ($5.760m)
Patrick Marleau ($6.900m) / Logan Couture ($2.875m) / Scott Gomez ($0.900m)
Raffi Torres ($2.000m) / Joe Pavelski ($4.000m) / Tommy Wingels ($0.775m)
James Sheppard ($0.830m) / Andrew Desjardins ($0.750m) / Adam Burish ($1.850m)
Bracken Kearns ($0.600m) / Martin Havlat ($5.000m)
DEFENSEMEN
Dan Boyle ($6.667m) / Marc-Edouard Vlasic ($4.250m)
Brad Stuart ($3.600m) / Jason Demers ($1.500m)
Matt Irwin ($1.000m) / Justin Braun ($1.250m)
Scott Hannan ($1.000m) /
GOALTENDERS
Antti Niemi ($3.800m)
Alex Stalock ($0.700m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,206,667; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $93,333

Basically I just resigned all the RFA's to friendly amounts, and signed Stalock to a team-friendly price. I don't have much room to work with seeing as Havlat cannot be bought out due to his surgery to reconstruct his pelvic floor. IN REALISTIC TERMINOLOGY, THAT MEANS HE NEEDS HIS TAINT REBUILT. So, that's 5 million just sitting there doing fuck all for an extended period of time... and definitely won't be back to start the season, if play the season at all...

I resigned Hannan to yet another 1M offer, and Gomez to something cheap as a stopgap measure what with the loss of Havlat (not that it's really a stopgap, being that Havlat is never healthy enough to play anyways - He's basically a Sammy Salo who gets paid more to do the same thing - sit on the bench). I figure either of these players are tradeable or waiveable at any time which, and before, Havlat returns, so that's fine.

There are a few other options on the table for this move, as both Tennyson and Hertl may be brought up instead of signing Gomez/Hannan, or one could hope of just trading away Burish's semi-dumb contract away at the point when Havlat returns, in order to make the team CBA compliant.

In reality, I see this as being a quiet year for the Sharks... The only question marks left are A: Term and Price of Galiardi, will Greiss or Stalock be our 2nd goalie, and who's going to fill the last 2 spots - one of which will likely be Bracken Kearns, and the other could be any combination of a cheap UFA, Tennyson, or Hertl.



Jun 28 2013 4:37PM
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Bumblesteeze
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I don't understand how Gomez works for you guys and I don't think I ever will.
Jun 28 2013 10:21PM
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Barefootin_Fiend
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stood in the middle of this today....actually close to the front. 2.3 million people is what i've heard....

talk about hot as fuck. i'll never do that again. fun to do once, but i'll watch on tv next time....or hit the parade route.
Jun 28 2013 10:56PM
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Goku
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I want the Olympic hockey roster NOW
Jun 29 2013 9:38AM
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PacificRimJob
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I wouldn't call him great or anything like that by any means, and he still doesn't score goals, but at least he's something that Havlat isnt - which is healthy.

If the Sharks don't pick him up, he better sign in a low-pressure environment. AKA: anywhere south of Mason-Dixon.
Jun 29 2013 9:42AM
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Gomez for ryan mcdonagh...
Jun 29 2013 11:32AM
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.frenchy
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Jun 29 2013 11:52AM
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J.D.
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See I feel like Galiardi gets 2+.
Jun 29 2013 11:54AM
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Contender
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Horton apparently not going back to Boston, dis guna b gud
Jun 29 2013 1:26PM
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Contender
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The rumor mills are going crazy right now, tomorrow is going to be awesome
Jun 29 2013 3:14PM
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GayWolf420
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Horton traded, some interest in seguin. Interesting offseason so far. Now I want Kenny holland to start makin some moves. Still not sure if I want them to Resign smith. Brunner will get signed, I doubt many teams have interest in him.
Jun 29 2013 3:17PM
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Bumblesteeze
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This offseason is actually going to be great, despite what I thought it originally was..
Jun 29 2013 4:11PM
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Goku
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Keep Brunner and TooToo. They fucking rock
Get rid of Cleary and Quincy. I want them gone. They dump and chase everytime they get the puck.
And tell Abdelkador if he stops playing like he did in playoffs and goes back to how he played in the regular season he's out of there.
Jun 29 2013 5:47PM
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Jeff_Lo
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Mack at #1 will be sweet! To bad CO's backend still sucks... oh well...
Jun 29 2013 5:49PM
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PacificRimJob
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Maybe if he was going in as a UFA... Maybe if he wasn't absolutely inconsistant.

Galiardi is a hard player to judge. Is he the guy who could barely hack it in the Sharks Lineup in 2012, or is he the guy who finally showed up during the 2nd half of the shortened 2013 season, and made a decent showing in the playoffs?

He's young with potential, still has his RFA badge, with a QO of just shy of 1M

I say 2 years, 2.5-3 million sounds like a good amount. I'd be happy with a 3 year deal for 1.5 per, though...
Jun 29 2013 7:31PM
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GayWolf420
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Addy needds to get his shit together. He was fucking up way too much. He's a great playmaker. I agree with you on quincy and cleary. Too many fuck ups and its getting old. Nyquist needs to get signed too along with a few of the griffons players unless holland baits them to other teams for some picks.
Jun 29 2013 8:51PM
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Bumblesteeze
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Most good NHLers were amazing from an young age. When my dad was a kid, he would often play at the outdoor rink and Mike Bossy was there half the time. Apparently he was just unreal and a straight boss at that obviously..

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