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SVHucker
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I can't believe what this guy said today. He's talking like the 9th Circuit Court is out of line because this country is a theocracy. Like I said before, I believe in God, but this scares me and pisses me off. Not to overgeneralize, but 98% of the bad stuff that has happened in history is because of fanatical states dominated by one regligion, or lack thereof, (Irag, Iran, Afghanistan, USSR, Palistine vs. Israel, Nazi Germany, etc etc etc). Not that we're headed that way, but the US is supposed to be different. I can't wait for this guy to be done with and in the past.

Bush said the ruling from a panel with the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in California ignored the fact that the Declaration of Independence acknowledged 'we receive our rights from God.' He said the court's decision was proof of the need for 'common-sense judges' who 'understand we derive our rights from God.' [cnn.com]


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Jun 28 2002 1:58AM
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powder99
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he is a freakin moron enough said
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Jun 28 2002 2:08AM
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craigcski
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he's my daddy, good for him.


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Satan is my god!!! he will soon rule the world!!! the seven seals are upon us and the world will soon come to an end. vow your undying love for lucifer and you will be saved from damnation!!!!! join the forces of evil and you will not be damned to the firey pits of hell and will become a messanger of satan!!!
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Jun 28 2002 2:39AM
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Ski_Instructor_Mike
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the melting pot mentality is what is gonna lead the states into trouble. Sure some people are happy that they are being accepted as americans but with a system like that some will be robbed of culture which is not good at all. They So two things are gonna happen in the end. Either the states will become just as the other powers that used religion as a right for war or there will be a revolt... I'm gonna say the first one because of the unified attitude that america feels and the dominance of the chrisitian faith in political figures.

Thats why I prefer the cultural mosaic of Canada. the only people that are 'canadian' per-say are the natives. We're not quite as unified, which may seem to be bad, but it allows for much more democratic results. The only good melting pot is one full of cheese!... mmmm fondue.

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Jun 28 2002 2:45AM
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craigcski
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doesnt change my mind, he's still my daddy


'shiiiiiot, fizz is in the motha fuckin house'

'The man does have a point Tanner'

Satan is my god!!! he will soon rule the world!!! the seven seals are upon us and the world will soon come to an end. vow your undying love for lucifer and you will be saved from damnation!!!!! join the forces of evil and you will not be damned to the firey pits of hell and will become a messanger of satan!!!
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Jun 28 2002 2:51AM
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Lord_Piot
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LMAO

explain how the USSR had ANYTHIGN to do with religion!

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Jun 28 2002 4:37AM
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Sean14456
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yeah i totally agree, bush is an asshole.

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Jun 28 2002 8:57AM
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SkierDave
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come on guys, Bush is where its at! I didn't hear the speech but i do know the facts

Come on guys, just think, if Gore was president, would he have taken the correct action against Bin Laden and all middle east? NO, he's a softee for peace, when you can make peace with them, they're so lost. Only way to keep them under control is to, well, kill them, the revolters

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Jun 28 2002 10:56AM
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five0
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im with dave..gore's a pussy, bush has got a grip on things(his dick)...if gore was prez..after 9/11 HE would probably apoligize to bin laden


scOOterboy8221: is the french version of American Eagle, Canadian Goose?
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Jun 28 2002 11:45AM
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SVHucker
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piot - I said 'OR LACK THEREOF.' That's the whole reason 'under God' got put into the pledge in the first place in 1954. Congress did that to contrast the US with the godless Soviet Union. I don't think anyone would argue that the Soviet regulation of religion was a good thing.

And to the next 2 guys, OF COURSE Gore would have done EXACTLY what bush did, you idiots. He would have been burned at the stake if he didn't go in and kill the al-qaida members and uproot the taliban. No one who remotely knows what they're talking about would argue that. Go ask RUsh Limbaugh, he'll tell you the same thing. Politicians' NUMBER ONE priority ALWAYS, is votes. That's exactly why no member of congress would DARE stand up in support of this ruling. It would be probable career suicide. It's not a good situation.


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Jun 28 2002 12:09PM
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kristen
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i'd have sex w/ the guy. Haha Ew no i wouldn't/ that's so wrong


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Jun 28 2002 12:29PM
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crimson1080
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'pussy ass'......just because gore doesn't want to run a pipeline through 3 of canada's national parks, put up ORBITAL MISSILE PLATFORMS(what the FUCK is that all about) or have hot sex with sheep doesnt mean hes a bad pres. yeah, its important that they went into afghanistan but now bush wants to go on this whole campaign and britain and canada are not agreeing. it's stupid. yeah yeah yeah, the US has a bigger dick, we can run around and blow the shit out of peasants. hardee har har. the reason afghanistan had all those weapons and tactics was because the united states GAVE them those weapons when the U.S.S.R. was moving into afghanistan in the war and we handed them the guns and told them to go die.
Jun 28 2002 12:40PM
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five0
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good points..but the thing is with gore..thats the thing hes not president..se we dont know what he would do just make guesstimates


scOOterboy8221: is the french version of American Eagle, Canadian Goose?
LineSkiEastCoast: lol
LineSkiEastCoast: dude, your a crackhead

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Jun 28 2002 12:43PM
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crimson1080
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yeah tru enough dude but i still dont like almost all of bush's ideas. as for how he 'handled' afghanistan, do you think he made most of the decisions and plans there? becauseif you do, then you're wrong... the guys an f'n monkey...
Jun 28 2002 12:46PM
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spin
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lets just leave it at
Jun 30 2002 2:13PM
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yeti
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all of you seem to think that the president actually has as much say in decisions as everyone thinks. He has advisors coming out of his ass, all of which know more than him...which is exactly their purpose.

Gore would've done the exact same thing because his advisors would have advised him of proper approach to the situation at hand...and by 'proper' i mean which way would give him the best change of getting re-elected :-)


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Jun 30 2002 4:18PM
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Casey
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Understand this about America: No matter who is president, things are done the EXACT same way. The president is just a puppet.

Lastly, I've enough of you guys ragging on Bush. It takes a great man to take a billion dollar surplus and turn it into a trillion dollar deficit in less than a year. No way that Gore could have accomplished that much.
Jun 30 2002 10:11PM
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SVHucker
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hah


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Jun 30 2002 10:16PM
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therealjerk
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OK, im gonna sound like a complete ignoramus but can we drop it? I'm always talking about politics with my dad and even though politics and current events go beyond being an essential part of life, id like to use this site as an escape.

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Jun 30 2002 10:26PM
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SkierX
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Non-Ski Gabber Gomer. We can talk about this if we wish. The title is clearly about politics, so don't read it.

All in all, we live in a pretend bi-cameral legislation. The appearance of a two party system makes it look like you have an real variety. problem is, both parties platforms are nearly identical in outcome, they just are worded to appeal to dfferent demographics.

Also, I agree with the original point of the thread. No elected official will stand up for the Courts because they will definatly not be re-elected.

This all almost vaguely reminds me of McCathey-ism. In the way that if you weren't patriotic, your life as you knew it, was over. Now, the politicians have to be 'patriotic' and go directly against the constitution, or bye-bye office.
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Jul 1 2002 11:08AM
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c_lo
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I usualyy don't agree with skierx but he's totaly right man. It doesn't matter who you vote for, the government still isn't going to be representitive of the people,they're going to represent dead presidents and corperations. Democracy is more present in Cuba than it is in the u.s.. (before you fire back at that pick up a fucking book and read the definition of a democracy-to all you sallys who are gonna say some shit about a vote). I know it, you know it and the president knows it. The constitution and the decleration are both fucking rags, they hold no truth. And think about how many people are fucking catholic or protestant etc.. (different toilet same shit) shit needs to change.
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Jul 1 2002 3:53PM
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c_lo
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And yeti's right, what bush did had nothing to do with him, it had to do with his damn advisors who (thank god) were around at the time of the Gulf War and have a certain knowledge of middle eastern politics
Jul 1 2002 3:55PM
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therealjerk
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im in a different mood now. c-lo is right, and all a vote is, is a vote for whoever got the most money in their respective party. its always been that way, even back in Greece. you dont think there were wealthy business man running for public office in athens 3000 years ago.

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Jul 1 2002 8:05PM
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SkierX
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Why do we even say we live in a democracy. We live in a Republic. Not a democracy. There is a large difference between the two. The are extremely different.
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Jul 2 2002 3:34PM
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c_lo
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Exactly, the notion that a democracy can exist within a capitalist system is a good indication of the political ignorance of North America
Jul 2 2002 4:11PM
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ABM1111
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im def. not getting into this but i just wanted to say that it is refreshing to see an extremely intellingent and in depth debate going on in here. good reading material guys... thanks.
Jul 2 2002 5:14PM
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threejay
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the difference in the united states religion and the middle easts is that you are FORCED to beleive what they want you to otherwise you are persecuted. In the us you have a freedom of religion..beleve what you want. Another reason God is in the pledge is because he is the basis for our constitution yet no one is forcing you to say the pledge so why force this to legislature.



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Jul 2 2002 9:17PM
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SVHucker
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because it's unreasonable to ask an 8 year old kid to make a decision to go along with it or to abstain and sit down in front of all his classmates. So in practice, it basically forcing kids to acknowledge that we live under God. And to say that our judges have to understand that we get our rights from God, that definitely crosses the line. Judges should have nothing to do with God. Why don't we just toss out the Constitution and institute the Ten Commandments as law??


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Jul 3 2002 12:16AM
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RiverRipper
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That is silly...saying getting rid of the constitution for the ten commandments is rediculous. The problem is that it only takes a few people who overly sensitive to cause a huge fight in our country. I mean it says In God We Trust on our money no one complains about that. We are way to PC and let a few people push us around. Screw that keep that in the pledge. You legally dont have to stand and recite the pledge and that was upheld before...or skip over that line if you dont like it.

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Jul 3 2002 2:07AM
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c_lo
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I completely disagree with the whole freedom of Religon thing. Yeah your forced into Islam but how much freedom actually exists here? For example for years the government refused to recognize the Nation of Islam as a religion, in part because of its nationalistic views (ie the White man is the devil. But other instituitons such as universities would invite Malcolm to speak but wouldn't allow him to talk about the Nation because they saw it as a religion. There are some parts of Christianity wich are as ignorant as the Nations 'the white man is the devil' platform. Even today the inmates in southern Prisons are being forced to renounce their Faith in the Nation of Gods and Earths (5 %ers) on paper or face solitary confinement. Who are we to decide what classifies as a religion??
Jul 3 2002 12:20PM
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threejay
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i think people here have no idea what being forced into a religion is like. have you ever seen kids getting beat b/c of the miss rececitation of the koran? these kids have no choice. christianity is a peaceful religion, muslim on the other hand is not. its all about fighting a holy war.Plus your not even forced to believe in christianity anyway. noone is forcing you to recite the pledge.



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Jul 3 2002 12:57PM
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Christianity isn't all peacefull and it's ignorant to say it is. But Like islam their are different sides of it. There are many people of islam who believe in peace, and many others who don't. Same can be said for christianity or any other major religion (besides Budahism). The whole fuss is that their is supposed to be a seperation between Church and state. Can you imagine what it would be like to be a 5 year old hindu kid who thinks he's swearing away his beliefs? BUt why should we be surprised what G-dubs said? he is the one who stated his greatest political influence was jesus.
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Jul 3 2002 1:55PM
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c_lo
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I recognize that we do have freedom in comparison, I'm just saying don't go tooting your fucking horn because freedom only exists for the wealthy. And don't let the Bible cloud your view of Jesus Christ. G-dubs is a fucking moron but every modern political leader, wether they like it or not, has taken from Jesus Christ
Jul 3 2002 3:57PM
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what do you mean by 'don't let the Bible cloud your view of Jesus Christ'? the Bible is the story of Jesus, so i hope i'm misunderstanding you.
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Jul 3 2002 10:16PM
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c_lo
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Fucking retartd, the bibble completely skips his teenage years. The Bible is 'figurative' (according to the church) in some parts. Therefore things get changed, some shit didn't really happen. You can't expect a holy document to the bible to be an accurate history text.
Jul 3 2002 11:56PM
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c_lo
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I mean like the bible.
Jul 4 2002 12:00AM
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eastside
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who thinks this jackass is talking about obama?
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k-rob
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he could be talking about any president, seeing as how all leaders see religion as a means of controlling the masses. especially since the majority of americans believe in god, therefore a president saying otherwise would not receive much support at all from the citizens.

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Bob_Gnarley
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Who thinks you are an ignorant fuck? I do.
Feb 25 2009 4:44PM
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eastside
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haha. i dont care. i still have you a 10/10
Feb 25 2009 4:51PM
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dguay13
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wow guys that was a 7 year epic bump
Feb 25 2009 4:53PM
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Barefootin_Fiend
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why would you bump a 7 year old thread?
Feb 25 2009 4:53PM
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Casey
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^ so he could see if anyone was stupid enough to post a rant about obama, proving that they didn't read any of the posts, or the original thread before posting.
Feb 25 2009 6:40PM
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You do know how old this thread is dont you?
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