Why is it acceptable

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you hit the nail on the head buddy

You're only looking at extremists. Most of them aren't actually violent people.

you should watch the move guns germs and steele. it goes into detail as to why whites think theyre better than blacks, why the middle east isnt developed as much as we are, as well as how inventions spread so easily.

Spark Knotes of the movie: middle east was once prosperous, those who had time to make new tools did so because they had so much food while others didnt and had to constantly harvest, once it wasnt furtile the majority of people left and those who stayed had to raise crops constantly so they didnt starve. airgo why theyre under developed. also technology spreads east to west very easily becuase the climate doesnt change while north to south there takes drastic changes.

again guns germs and steele explains it very well

I recommend standing next time you watch Argo. You'll get a whole different take on the Muslim culture.


Religion is just proof that people can and will fall for anything.

Dude I talk a special topics politic science class "Politics in the Middle East" and for an entire semester we read journals, newspapers, articles etc. about just this and deeper stuff about specific cultures within the muslim religion within each city, like a lot of the cities are still having their own cultural divides between the different sectors of religious traditions causing a lot of the riots and violence. The educated obviously see the end of them unless they modernize, but the majority oppose modernization so basically yeah you get the point.


for a whole semester i learned this stuff, all i could think is idgaf, if they want to live like that and complain about it then good for them

i wrote like a long paragraph about how Christians and especially Americans have a world-wide image to uphold but i accidentally refreshed the page so fuck it.

You are making a lot of rash generalizations here... There are extreme cases of stupidity among many individuals, however generalizing them to a specific religion or race is simply prejudicial and not in anyway factual. If for example if I were to generalize all Christians to be the same as those who are apart of the Westboro Baptist Church that would be quite the extreme statement to make wouldn't it?

i feel like it's because the rest of the world almost expects for countries in the middle east or wherever it is to do that. to me, it's like if you heard about a fight at a bar (metaphorically the middle east), no one would really get up in arms about it because it's more expected, but if there was a fight at a 4-star restaurant (metaphorically US, or any other First World Country), it would be all over newspapers and online because that's not what's expected there. if that makes any sense

Right, I don't think you kids quite grasp history... that whole taking over the embassy thing had little to do with religion and more of how the U.S. was constantly fucking with Iran's entire infrastructure.

Religion is what's used in order to encourage the masses to act.

lol he's just mad cuz he's muslim

Well, at least Bangladesh is destitute as fuck, so they spend quality time mass protesting so they can get the death penalty for blasphemy.


Just because others did it centuries ago doesn't make it OK today.

Cry about it, that'll tell em!

Op isnt a bigot or a racist, just uninformed and ignorant.


The extremists of Islam, or "Islamists" shouldnt be confused with real, down to earth Muslims. "Islamists" make up a small portion of the population, but they're the ones you always see on tv, preaching hate and all that shit.


Its like looking at the Westboro Babtist church and thinking that's how all Christians act, its just misrepresentation.

haha youre joking?

Just watch the hitch destroy

You should read the graphic novel Persepolis. It's short and good book that gives decent insight to Iran during the 70's and 80's. You could probably finish it in a single sitting.

I think it's a massive oversimplification to say that religion is the only thing holding them back...

I actually think its quite the opposite. As Americans we think we're better than a bunch of brown people from some shit hole country. Example, 2,900 something American citizens dies in the 9/11 attacks, yet we've killed over 100,000 innocent Iraqi and afghani citizens as part of the war on terror. The difference is giant, but all we hear about is how theyre the ones with a religion of violence.

so many problems in the middle east (and not just there btw) originate from western influence acting like they are the fucking saviors of any "inferior" race.

i know, colonialization is long gone, but drawing up borders like a mofo and draining countries of their resources and ingniting civil wars is a good way of "hindering" a country in its development to say the least.

in this special case, the US have literally nothing to complain about since they (with the UK) overthrew a democratic government in '53. if you act like the world police, thats what you get.



IDK WHY THIS IS ACCEPTABLE. WHY ANY COUNTRY (THE US JUST WERE IN THE BEST POSITION FOR QUITE A WHILE, BUT OTHERS DO IT TOO, DONT GET ME WRONG) CAN DO THIS AND NOONE CARES.

Pretty sure that number is bullshit, as most were killed by their own people, OR made up to paint the us in a bad light by the taliban or AQ in Iraq

This is how they keep track as explained by the American Journalism Review, it is in fact not bullshit.. "Here's how it works: An Iraq Body Count researcher tracks civilian deaths reported by online news sources that range from the Associated Press and Reuters to Qatar-based Al Jazeera and Washington, D.C.'s Middle East Report, using comprehensive search engines. Deaths directly or indirectly resulting from coalition military intervention since January 2003 are recorded after they are confirmed by at least two credible news sources. To ensure that deaths are not counted more than once and to acknowledge the uncertainty of the numbers and the potential political bias of news organizations, a minimum and maximum number are recorded when there is a discrepancy. The range is used if at least two news sources have published a lower number of deaths than other accounts of a specific incident. The results are reviewed by three members of the 12-person team. Additionally, all news sources must meet certain criteria: Each Web site must be updated daily and available in English; articles must be archived with distinct URLs; the sites must be fully public and widely referenced in other media." I dont see much room for the Taliban to skew the numbers in their favor, regardless im sure they have more important things to do. I also dont believe "deaths directly or indirectly resulting from coalition military intervention" includes them killing their own people, but the criteria is a bit vague.

Nice stats there, brain-washed buddy.

We don't need the insurgents to make us look bad when we're doing a pretty bang up job ourselves. Yeah, let's ignore the fact that we invaded and destabilized a sovereign country under false pretenses at the cost of 5 thousand U.S. lives and over 65 thousand civilian deaths. Hell, half of those civilian deaths COULD have been insurgents so we're not all that bad of guys, really.

What this guy said

While you make an excellent point, I think the discussion here is more based on civillian and religious responses.

although i think we have gotten into big internet fights about religious stuff before in the past, i agree entirely with you right now. i will relish this sensation

You're a fucking idiot with zero understanding of history or what we've done as a country to fuck with other countries and cultures.

How are so many people misunderstanding something so blatantly obvious? Ah, that's right! They take whatever they hear from pundits, their parents or the news at face value because they're all too lazy to have an independent thought. Mystery solved.

The reason niger isnt developing the next smartfone, is because they are measurably less intelligent. What about south africa? Oh right. Australia is a hot desert... How did technology spread fhere? Your little fable guns germs and steele is anti racist propaganda horse feces

Woah woah woah woah... lets take it easy people. These may be Islamic extremists, but that doesnt matter. We have to stand by and watch the "extremists" do whatever they want, but if 30 "white-christian extremists" kidnapped 10 random muslims it would be a fucking OUTRAGE.

Could you imagine if 30 white guys killed 10 muslims? Its such a fucking double standard.

Yeah you're right, I prefer the racist propaganda over that horseshit any day.

if youre even half serious, please kill yourself. youre a racist fuckhead.

So we are supposed to make up whats going on in the world? I'm sorry but there's no way to get information other than news sources or personal experience.

More to point that news can be biased and misleading. So much so that stories become fabricated.

Awe.... Your cute... Do you blame the 15 pt iq gap between white and black ppl in america on discrimination? Haha your a fucking tool. S koreans and japaneze have the highest iq in the world. Followed by germany. GUESS WHAT! These three countries also boast the highest level of technological advancement in the world. Isnt that interesting or an i just being racist fir presenting some facts. Africa had not yet invented the wheel by the time ships from the west landed there. You can call me a racist all you want if that makes you feel better. But if you call me a liar you are full of shit and you know it

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Huge difference between racism and being factual. Way to many people shout racism at anything that involves skin color.

he got nasty but damn was he perfectly right...

Exactly. There are tons of scientists who study intelligence measurements in nations around the world and fucking douchbag losers call them racist just to do studies like the ones they do. If you are a true scientist then you have to accept that the person picking fruit in the sahara is not as capable as some asian kid in silicon valley whose dad builds computers

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i am half german and its still racism. there are no substantial differences in intelligence between "races". just FYI, in countries that had to clean up after WWII, we dont even say the word "race".


a south korean kid, an african kid and a european kid all taken away from their mothers at age 5 have ex ante the same expected INTELLIGENCE.

what you are probably referring to are these IQ studies which are obviously correlated to EDUCATION. something that is not as easily accessible.

prove me that i am wrong and show me a peer-reviewed paper that shows that "asians" are INHERENTLY more intelligent than africans.

until then youre a racist fuckhead and hiding behind invented facts.

Haha. Adoption studies have shown that regardless of schoolin/ upbringing, blacks scire lower than caucasians on iq tests and whites score lower than asians. You provide me with the bullshit data that all 3 races score evenly on standardized iq tests. It doesnt exist. Your a libero-bigot and you think your bullshit discrimination argument makes you look classy. Shut your mouth you tool. Nobody buys you pile of horse shit.
From race and intelligence on wiki
"Differences among racial groups in mean scores of IQ tests and other assessment tools have long been identified in the United States. These tests show the average IQ scores of East Asian Americans is higher than those of White Americans, and that the average IQ scores of White Americans is higher than those of African Americans.

the black-white IQ difference is about 15 to 18 points or 1 to 1.1 standard deviations (SDs), which implies that between 11 and 16 percent of the black population have an IQ above 100 (the white mean). The black-white IQ difference is largest on those components of IQ tests that best represent the general intelligence factor g.[18][non-primary source needed] The 1996 APA report "Intelligence: Knowns and Unknowns" and the 1994 editorial statement "Mainstream Science on Intelligence" gave more or less similar Rushton & Jensen (2005) write that, in the United States, self-identified blacks and whites have been the subjects of the greatest number of studies. They state that the black-white IQ difference is about 15 to 18 points or 1 to 1.1 standard deviations (SDs), which implies that between 11 and 16 percent of the black population have an IQ above 100 (the white mean). The black-white IQ difference is largest on those components of IQ tests that best represent the general intelligence factor g.[18][non-primary source needed] The 1996 APA report "Intelligence: Knowns and Unknowns" and the 1994 editorial statement "Mainstream Science on Intelligence" gave more or less similar estimates.[4][44]Roth et al. (2001), in a review of the results of a total of 6,246,729 participants on other tests of cognitive ability or aptitude, found a difference in mean IQ scores between blacks and whites of 1.1 SD. Consistent results were found for college and university application tests such as the Scholastic Aptitude Test (N = 2.4 million) and Graduate Record Examination (N = 2.3 million), as well as for tests of job applicants in corporate sections (N = 0.5 million) and in the military (N = 0.4 million).[45]

A 2006 study by Dickens and Flynn estimated that the difference between mean scores of blacks and whites closed by about 5 or 6 IQ points between 1972 and 2002,[46] which would be a reduction of about one-third. However this was challenged by Rushton & Jensen who claim the difference remains stable.[47][non-primary source needed] In a 2006 study, Murray agreed with Dickens and Flynn that there has been a narrowing of the difference; "Dickens' and Flynn's estimate of 3–6 IQ points from a base of about 16–18 points is a useful, though provisional, starting point". But he argued that this has stalled and that there has been no further narrowing for people born after the late 1970s.[48] Murray found similar results in a 2007 study.[49][non-primary source needed]

The IQ distributions of other racial and ethnic groups in the United States are less well-studied. The Bell Curve (1994) stated that the average IQ of African Americans was 85, Latinos 89, whites 103, East Asians 106, and Jews 113. Asians score relatively higher on visuospatial than on verbal subtests. The few Amerindian populations who have been systematically tested, including Arctic Natives, tend to score worse on average than white populations but better on average than black populations.[45]

According to several studies, Ashkenazi Jews score 0.75 to 1.0 standard deviations above the general European average. This corresponds to an IQ of 112–115. Other studies have found somewhat lower values. During the 20th century, this population made up about 3% of the total US population, but won 27% of the US science Nobel Prizes and 25% of the Turing Awards. They have high verbal and mathematical scores, while their visuospatial abilities are typically somewhat lower, by about one half standard deviation, than the European average.[50]

A number of scientists, however, have concluded sufficient evidence exists to support substantial genetic contribution to explain the black-white IQ gap.[18][21][33][94][95

Need more? You bigoted fuck?

Show me the data that says children of the 3 races taken from their mothers score evenly. Lets see it asshole. It doesnt exist. Keep lying to try to cover up something thats obvious. I know you arent dumb enough to believe what you say, but you are certainly dumb enough to think people will buy your bullshit. Do you know what selection pressure is? Do you think that there were similar selection pressures over the last few thousand years in the complex technological society that involved engineering and complex politics in europe and in the barbaric, technology free society in africa? Do you know what selection pressure is? Quit trying dude. Nobody is that stupid that theyll buy your steaming pile of horse shit that everybodies brain is the same. Nice try dude

Exactly, although the news says otherwise. The news would have you thinking that every muslim is a terrorist, that every person from the middle east is a terrorist.


I think religions are stupid but at the same time I think OP's fears are ridiculous.

I stopped reading here

like ANYONE on this god damn website is gonna read that hahaha

stop trying so hard, we all see your copy & paste skills are fucking tight.

Apparently you kids are so stupid that you think the only news you can get "information" from is on cable TV... I bet you think Al Jazeera is a terrorist network, huh?

Whatever fire crotch

no, because they didnt have the fucking time to sit back and invent tools to make harvesting easier. also the crops they grew back in the stone age only lasted a certain amount of time before it went bad while those who had the time to invent new tools grew crops that could be eaten a month or however much longer in the future giving them time to relax and not constantly find a source of food. what about South Africa? if ur arguing that it developed ahead of Niger its because south africa was a british colony that had some diamond rush or gold rush that made people flock there in the 1800s to gain wealth and with that they brought new technology that allowed for the advancement of the country. Same with austrailia, british colony and they didnt want to have it be a wasteland, though it was orginally designed to be a giant prison, they soon urbanized what they could and it developed quickly from there. All the technology and advancement countries have now are most likely caused by the country being a colony in which new tools and technology was brought over from the nation that claimed said country as a colony. and finally ur a dipshit, go back to ur inbred family, tell them ur gay, let them kill u, u fuck head.

you can read your own copy and paste shit (or other wiki articles on the same topic) and read that there is HUGE debate on whether or not these IQ tests measure education or other sociographic variables that are closely related to "race"?


like IQ tests commonly feature linguistic tests. so a person who cant read good is by definition less intelligent. but what if that person never visited a school? he is less educated obviously, but most certainly not less intelligent. in your copy & paste source it says that these studies were conducted in the US and are most certainly not representative.


your a racist fuckhead who covers racism with "facts" and only reads the part of wiki he wants to read. and then you post only the parts, completely negating the facts.