Formula 1 2013 Season

Posts: 10054 - Karma: 25,277

Karma: 25,277

Posts: 10054

Crazy Fool

^ No bloody clue, there are plenty of livestreams on Roja and Firstrow do.

Also the Iceman kept his head cool as he took home the first victory infront of Alonso and Vettel.

Mar 17 2013 7:02AM

1 1

Posts: 2909 - Karma: 46

Karma: 46

Posts: 2909

Addict

Great first race. Not exciting to watch from a overtaking standpoint but, the strategy was really compelling. Congrats to my man Kimi on the victory. So surprised to see McLaren so far off the pace. Lets hope they turn things around quickly.

Mar 17 2013 7:37AM

1 1

Posts: 10054 - Karma: 25,277

Karma: 25,277

Posts: 10054

Crazy Fool

McLaren has the ability to improve their car at a moments notice. They proved that in the past. I wouldn't worry too much.

Mar 17 2013 8:39AM

1 1

Posts: 6433 - Karma: 11,458

Karma: 11,458

Posts: 6433

No Life

Speed shows them live at what ungodly hour they're actually on. Fox usually has the rights to 2 races.

Mar 17 2013 10:55AM

1 1

Posts: 2661 - Karma: 3,181

Karma: 3,181

Posts: 2661

Addict

Congrats to Audi for taking 1 and 2!

Mar 17 2013 11:11AM

1 2

Posts: 6433 - Karma: 11,458

Karma: 11,458

Posts: 6433

No Life

Audi is making the engines for Renault and Ferrari now? Interesting.

Mar 17 2013 11:23AM

1 1

steep

Posts: 6063 - Karma: 297

Karma: 297

Posts: 6063

No Life

Couldn't watch it cuz it was on at some deathly hour. Hopefully ill catch a replay, I think I saw on the commercial there was gonna be a replay.

Mar 17 2013 11:25AM

1 1

Posts: 2661 - Karma: 3,181

Karma: 3,181

Posts: 2661

Addict

Isnt Sebring formula one? Or am I just completely cofused and looking at something different? Hah

Mar 17 2013 11:26AM

1 1

Posts: 6433 - Karma: 11,458

Karma: 11,458

Posts: 6433

No Life

That's american le mans. Very different.

Mar 17 2013 11:28AM

1 1

Posts: 2661 - Karma: 3,181

Karma: 3,181

Posts: 2661

Addict

So is the le mans more stock oriented cars?

Mar 17 2013 11:30AM

1 1

Posts: 6433 - Karma: 11,458

Karma: 11,458

Posts: 6433

No Life

I really don't know where to begin here because I don't follow le mans.

Main differences.

2 man driver teams vs. 1 driver.
timed enduro race vs. distance races
multiple classes vs. 1 class

Why are they driving more sports car looking things in the le mans series? I have no fucking idea.

Mar 17 2013 11:48AM

1 1

Jeebus.

Posts: 4904 - Karma: 5,822

Karma: 5,822

Posts: 4904

No Life

Wait, people actually care about this?

Mar 17 2013 11:59AM

1 7

Posts: 2909 - Karma: 46

Karma: 46

Posts: 2909

Addict

Le Mans has two main types of cars that run. Prototypes and GT's. The Prototypes are very similar to Formula 1 cars just they have the wheels covered and are running with a little bit more downforce along with less power. Still wicked fast cars though. GT cars are cars based off of your everyday production sports cars just in GT spec. The main differences after that are that Le Mans is an endurance based series (Shortest race being 1000Km long usually) while Formula 1 is a much shorter race distance.

Mar 17 2013 9:07PM

1 1

406

Posts: 2302 - Karma: 92

Karma: 92

Posts: 2302

Addict

just got into it such a bad ass sport. PEREZ is my driver now....

Mar 17 2013 9:43PM

1 1

Posts: 2661 - Karma: 3,181

Karma: 3,181

Posts: 2661

Addict

Thank you for clarifying! Ive always wanted to get into formula 1 and racing thats not nascar, but it is just so underexposed in America

Mar 17 2013 10:17PM

1 1

SoAnG

Posts: 386 - Karma: 389

Karma: 389

Posts: 386

Loner

Where did Hamilton place on grid and final race standings? Don't think Speed channel broadcast F1 anymore. Pretty bummed about that.

Mar 17 2013 11:23PM

1 1

Posts: 10054 - Karma: 25,277

Karma: 25,277

Posts: 10054

Crazy Fool

Lewis became 5th. Started out third on grid. The BBC has a great tool with all the standings after practise, qualifying, grid and race: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/2013/australian-grand-prix/results/race

As for the difference in speed between LMP cars and F1, thera are one or two in this vid:

The speed of an F1 cars is just bonkers, it's ridiculously fast in everything it does.

Mar 18 2013 3:21AM

1 0

Shukovski

Posts: 470 - Karma: 433

Karma: 433

Posts: 470

Ridiculous

What about raw numbers (for easy comparison?) Like 0-200 times?

Mar 18 2013 3:25AM

1 1

Posts: 10054 - Karma: 25,277

Karma: 25,277

Posts: 10054

Crazy Fool

0-300km/h on mildly wet surface:

Porsche Panamera Turbo S: 40,7s

Bugatti Veyron Grand Sport: 19,7s

Pescaralo LMP1 (Le mans prototype racer): 15,9s

2012 Lotus Formula one: 12,1s

Mar 18 2013 3:29AM

1 1

XtRemE11

Posts: 5680 - Karma: 268

Karma: 268

Posts: 5680

No Life

So stoked to see kimi win, i really hope he ends up being a championship contender this year. IndyCars season opener is this coming weekend, which should be equally as interesting, last years season was actually extremely entertaining, almost more so than F1.

Mar 18 2013 1:15PM

1 1

--ski--

Posts: 1670 - Karma: 817

Karma: 817

Posts: 1670

Insane

Speed comparisons between cars.... Thought it was quite cool.

Mar 18 2013 6:35PM

3 1

shredsox

Posts: 66 - Karma: 14

Karma: 14

Posts: 66

Wannabe

NBC Sports channel has F1 this year, qualifying and practices too. Go Kimi!

Mar 18 2013 7:25PM

1 1

Posts: 2661 - Karma: 3,181

Karma: 3,181

Posts: 2661

Addict

Holy. Shit.

Mar 18 2013 9:12PM

1 1

steep

Posts: 6063 - Karma: 297

Karma: 297

Posts: 6063

No Life

So sick

Mar 18 2013 9:49PM

1 1

Posts: 10054 - Karma: 25,277

Karma: 25,277

Posts: 10054

Crazy Fool

Acceleration isn't too sluggish either:

Mar 19 2013 3:17AM

1 1

Posts: 2661 - Karma: 3,181

Karma: 3,181

Posts: 2661

Addict

What kind of transmissions are on these things?! They can shift down from 7 to 2 in one consecutive motion.

Mar 19 2013 6:43AM

1 1

Posts: 10054 - Karma: 25,277

Karma: 25,277

Posts: 10054

Crazy Fool

From wiki:

Formula One cars use semi-automatic sequential gearboxes, with regulations stating that 7 forward gears and 1 reverse gear must be used, with rear-wheel drive.[7] The gearbox is constructed of carbon titanium, as heat dissipation is a critical issue, and is bolted onto the back of the engine.[8] Full automatic gearboxes, and systems such as launch control and traction control, are illegal, to keep driver skill important in controlling the car.[8] The driver initiates gear changes using paddles mounted on the back of the steering wheel and electro-hydraulics perform the actual change as well as throttle control. Clutch control is also performed electro-hydraulically, except to and from a standstill, when the driver operates the clutch using a lever mounted on the back of the steering wheel.[9]

A modern F1 clutch is a multi-plate carbon design with a diameter of less than 100 mm (3.9 in),[9] weighing less than 1 kg (2.2 lb) and handling around 720 hp (540 kW).[4] As of the 2009 race season, all teams are using seamless shift transmissions, which allow almost instantaneous changing of gears with minimum loss of drive. Shift times for Formula One cars are in the region of 0.05 seconds.[10] In order to keep costs low in Formula One, gearboxes must last five consecutive events, although gear ratios can be changed for each race. Changing a gearbox before the allowed time will cause a penalty of five places drop on the starting grid for the first event that the new gearbox is used.[11]

Mar 19 2013 7:18AM

1 1

a_pla5tic_bag

Posts: 9210 - Karma: 5,357

Karma: 5,357

Posts: 9210

Crazy Fool

I like the racing a lot but i'll just never get over how high tech these cars are.

Mar 20 2013 10:24PM

1 1

Posts: 10054 - Karma: 25,277

Karma: 25,277

Posts: 10054

Crazy Fool

Too bad FIA is putting so many restrictions on them.

The most technologically advanced car is often considered to be the the 1992 Williams FW14B.

New cars have more cleverly designed parts but not the same technology onboard because that's forbidden.

This thing outpaced the rest of the field by such a margin it almost didn't need a driver, it also featured active suspension (now forbidden).

Mar 21 2013 2:15AM

1 1

XtRemE11

Posts: 5680 - Karma: 268

Karma: 268

Posts: 5680

No Life

lol at 4 non blondes playing in the background. but yeah, F1 would be absolutely insane right now if they never banned active suspension and were a bit more lenient with the restrictions they put in place. i dont know how good the racing would be, but the capability of the cars could be so insane.

Mar 21 2013 9:09PM

1 1

N-John360

Posts: 835 - Karma: 8

Karma: 8

Posts: 835

Insane

Very happily suprised to see Kimi win first, he clearly knows what he's doing.

Also, for anyone living anywhere near Texas. Go to the Austin GP this year! Went last year and it was an extraordinary experience I will never forget. Not just the race itself but the whole auroma behind the weekend, meeting so many internationals and seeing all the posh in the sport.

Mar 21 2013 11:55PM

3 1

1337

Posts: 31038 - Karma: 29,003

Karma: 29,003

Posts: 31038

Basement Dweller

holy shit, epic spacing!

F1 cars are soo sexy. That mercedes looked so pussy on the course compared

Mar 22 2013 12:00AM

2 1

1337

Posts: 31038 - Karma: 29,003

Karma: 29,003

Posts: 31038

Basement Dweller

also inb4 H8CH, he'll be bragging about the Austin stop for sure!

Mar 22 2013 12:02AM

1 0

Posts: 2909 - Karma: 46

Karma: 46

Posts: 2909

Addict

Raikkonen looking good again in Malaysia. P2 in FP1 and P1 in a rain filled FP2. The same can't be said about his teammate. Strange because Romain was pretty quick last year just crashed a lot.

Mar 22 2013 7:10AM

1 0

Posts: 2909 - Karma: 46

Karma: 46

Posts: 2909

Addict

Not an interesting race from an overtaking standpoint but, a very compelling drama filled race.

Top 3;

1st - Vettel

2nd - Webber

3rd - Hamilton

1st point of drama. Vettel overtaking Webber despite being given instructions multiple times to not overtake and stay station behind him.

2nd point of drama. Rosberg being told that he was not allowed to overtake Hamilton and to stay stationed behind him.

Discuss.

I personally think that Webber has it written in his contract that, he has to be given a win every season if he is in a winning position, like he as today. I think that Red Bull was trying to get that win out of the way so it wouldn't come back and hurt Vettel later in the season. Red Bull knows that Vettel will be there for the Championship at the end, and not Webber.

As for the Mercedes GP drama. It's very likely that Hamilton has in his contract that he MUST be 1st driver at all times and will always be given priority of Rosberg. Something that the Sky Sports broadcast mentioned, and I wouldn't count that out. Why else would Hamilton leave McLaren. He had to be given some sort of huge benefit.

Mar 24 2013 10:14AM

1 0

theater.thug

Posts: 441 - Karma: 671

Karma: 671

Posts: 441

Ridiculous

Webber was piiiiisssed

Mar 24 2013 10:28AM

1 0

Posts: 10054 - Karma: 25,277

Karma: 25,277

Posts: 10054

Crazy Fool

Hamilton, that is not your pit-lane.

Mar 24 2013 2:30PM

4 0

Dwarftosser1

Posts: 2602 - Karma: 951

Karma: 951

Posts: 2602

Addict

Laughed hardily at that

Also, wtf was Alonso thinking?

Mar 24 2013 3:11PM

1 0

406

Posts: 2302 - Karma: 92

Karma: 92

Posts: 2302

Addict

This was just another great race in F1. I think the money involved in this sport is absolutely astonishing. My buddy was saying that Hamilton is getting $100 million to be basically carried by his teammate every race?!

Hamilton pulling into the Mclaren pitstop was golden...

I dont mind the Vettel pass for the win, just like I was disappointed to see Rosberg be placed into 4th place. I love all the drama between ignoring a teams orders, which is just something you should not do if your team is redbull, which does everything possible to help you succeed. The guy just loves the competition and loves to win. Maybe he just gave this one to his teammate this time, kept redbull happy, and still won the championship in the future? Fuck that though. Rosberg muttered "remember this one" after he had to give up the race to his teammate and settle for just outside the podium.

My boy Perez had a pretty good race...stacking up all the points for Mclaren this morning, which was on point as far as the pit crew....they even looked ready for Hamilton when he stopped by haha!

Massa is looking to overtake Alonso too atm.

Mar 24 2013 5:22PM

1 0

shredsox

Posts: 66 - Karma: 14

Karma: 14

Posts: 66

Wannabe

Never really liked Vettel and now I have a reason. Bitch move overtaking against team orders. Loved how webber called him out post race.

Mar 24 2013 6:29PM

1 0

N-John360

Posts: 835 - Karma: 8

Karma: 8

Posts: 835

Insane

Couple of points for me.

1) Vettel's pass at the end was BS. The main reason for me being that Webber let up last few laps based on team orders to preserve tires. Had he raced hard, no way Vettel would have caught up and made the pass. That's the biggest reason I think Webber was pissed, he had it in the bag and Vettel passed out of the blue. Had he really been right behind him with, say, 10 laps to go, don't think it would have been as big of a deal.

2) Although I understand all the $$ behind the sport and why team orders happen, I think they should stop. It is bad for the fans. If I am paying $500 + for race tix & travel (which I have), I want to see a RACE, not a finishing order based on team orders. I will always love F1 and will likely go to another race, but in the end this is an entertainment business that would be nowhere without the fans, so they should try to make it as best for them as possible.

Already looking forward to China!

Mar 24 2013 7:37PM

1 0

1337

Posts: 31038 - Karma: 29,003

Karma: 29,003

Posts: 31038

Basement Dweller

Mar 26 2013 2:20PM

1 0

--ski--

Posts: 1670 - Karma: 817

Karma: 817

Posts: 1670

Insane

Complete dickhead move from Vettel. I hope Webber beats Vettel in the over all standings now.

Mar 26 2013 11:33PM

1 0

volvotom

Posts: 2045 - Karma: 712

Karma: 712

Posts: 2045

Addict

NBC Sports network has the US broadcast rights now. All races will be live and replayed during the day as well as qualifying.

It was funny watching all of the team managers get all angry towards the end.

Mar 27 2013 12:18PM

1 0