Shoulder problems...

talk to a PT

surgery or deal with it.

I have the same thing...as do many others. Get your upper body jacked, and it will help hold the ball in the socket.

dont be no punk, now...

true, ive been lazy as fuck with my workout plan. thats probly why it happened the second time after i got out of PT. It pisses me off but its what i have to do i guess.thanks for the advice.

I dislocated my shoulder and tore my labrum back in 2007. I tried physical therapy but it just doesn't work in my opinion. I still had pain and a lack of strength.

I opted for arthroscopic surgery in 2010 to fix the labrum and I couldn't be happier. I had the surgery in September and was able to ski by February without worrying about the shoulder.

I'm not a doctor but I think you may want to look into surgery. If you get it early enough you'll be more than fine for next season.

i hear that for sure, im a ski instructor though so ive got at least 2 months left and 4 if i ski the whole mammoth season (if we get even average snow). And i have no insurance and everytime i apply for county aid they give a shit deal that doesnt cover anything because they think i make too much.

My friends shoulders would always pop out of place in football, baseball, basketball and such. He got surgery on them both which tightened everything up so it would stop happening.

I had the exact same problem. Popped my shoulder out for the first time in 2007 tubing behind a boat, then that winter started popping it out a lot, it turned into a monthly then weekly then daily occurrence, like you it would pop out while rolling down the windows, grabbing blunt, opening the fridge, rolling over in bed... i started going to physio that winter one - two days a week and did all the recommended physio exercises every single day, they didn't do anything for me.

I skied the next winter with a super bulky and constrictive shoulder brace and still managed to pop it out from time to time so I ended up getting a bankart repair done on it that spring. Recovering from that surgery was the most painful experience of my life so far (acl reconstruction is a piece of cake in comparison). I followed my surgeon's and physio's instructions to a T but sure enough, I popped my shoulder out once again that winter, 9 months out of surgery (if you think popping your shoulder out is painful now, wait till you do it after it's healed post-op). Although I did fall into a mineshaft to make that happen. So I skied with my arm in a sling for the next couple months, continued to do all my rehab exercises, but my shoulder was still unstable as fuck. This continued for another year or so of popping my shoulder out in my sleep, swimming, surfing, etc.. until I blew my knee and was recovering from knee surgery.

I start weight training hard. Squatting, deadlifting, benchpressing, heavy rowing, etc. While my focus was to rebuild the strength in my tree trunk legs, i tried to stay as balanced as possible to fix some other minor imbalances. I had no intentions of this fixing my shoulder but here I am with strong, flexible shoulders that haven't popped out in almost two years.

just some food for thought.

Man you're lucky. I tore my labrum skiing back in '09 and had dislocated it numerous times. I had an arthroscopic bankart repair that summer, and by the next winter I was popping my shoulder out again. I decided to live with it and continue weight training to try to tighten the shoulder up with muscle, but it still got the point where I would pop it out weekly doing simple tasks like opening a door(I even popped it out while sleeping several times).

This past October I was WW kayaking and dislocated it in a not so friendly rapid, rolled, and got tossed around for quite a while. That was by far the scariest moment of my life. So, I decided to go to a new surgeon who through various tests, discovered that I had not only re-torn my labrum, but also wore away 35% of the bone in my socket, and damn near all of the cartilage from dislocating it so many times (well over 200 over the past three years). After this news, I decided to go for surgery #2 (open latarjay procedure) which is essentially a full reconstruction of the socket using a bone graft, two 2" screws, and tons of anchors. The recovery was so painful that I had thrown up quite a bit from it.

I'm now 4 months post op. I only have about 3/4 full ROM because of the amount of work they did, but that's enough for me to confidently paddle, ski, and bike so I'm happy. I can now raise my had over my head, which I haven't been able to do in three years!

Long story short, if you are dislocating your shoulder, seriously consider surgery. Sure, some people can build enough muscle up to keep the socket together, but more often than not, the labrum (which is generally what stretches/tears when you dislocate your shoulder) cannot heal itself and requires corrective surgery to maintain stability.

Go see a PT, then keep up the workouts... I train mine everyday, like 5 minutes and it has never popped out since.. Still feels a little weaker then my other shoulder though.. Oh well as long as it doesn't pop out i'm fine with it!

Do you even lift?

Yeah dude, I have the exact same problem... AC joint's separated and labrum's torn... I never had surgery cuz it happened my junior year of football, and missing a year on my team means no starting, so I  worked through it so  could start this year. Anyways, my coach showed me some PT stuff with bands, and honestly that helps alot. All you can really do if you dont want surgery is to work on its flexibility with the bands, and get your arm, shoulder, neck, back muscles ripped

I separated my shoulder February 2012 in a lacrosse game n it ended up tearing some kind of ligament or something. Doctors said I need to have surgery to get it back to 100% but I opted for PT. the PT helped, it was just a lot of resistance band stuff. But honestly, here I am a year later and I can't even sleep on my side bc it hurts so bad. But now that I have a big boy job I'm seriously considering the surgery. Every time I fall skiing it hurts just as bad as the first time

^this is so fucked, did you have to put it back in it's socket to roll back around or did you have to roll with a dislocated shoulder?

im wouldn't call myself lucky haha, but you certainly have had a rougher go at it than I.

i can totally relate to the opening doors and sleeping dislocations though, I still subconsciously tense my shoulder up when opening the door or when I'm eating shit.
I think that is also a large part of the success ive had with my shoulder, since I've put so much time into ingraining the muscle patterns to hold my shoulder in it's socket, it's become subconscious to protect it at any vulnerable time. This could be why my shoulder finally go more stable or it could be that it's just stronger all round. I am very certain that if I stop working our my shoulders in a well balanced manner, i will definitely have problems again (my labrum is long gone and gets nice and folded up weird in my socket from time to time).

Same thing with my legs (I dont have an ACL or MCL in my left knee), I believe the only reason i can ski at a fairly high level right now is from squatting and deadlifting heavy and roadbiking, otherwise I'd be shit outta luck.

/i will likely need shoulder and knee replacements by the time I'm 50.

i went a year after i did it my first time before i popped mine out again (don't know the actual terminology for what I did, the doctor told me to have a surgical prep sheet filled out the next time I went to see him so I haven't gone back) but now it happens all the time. Most of the time now for me its just an out and in quick thing that hurts but I'm fine after a little, every once and a while I cant move my arm for a while. I dont really want to go in for surgery because I've heard that if you mess it up again after the surgery it is a lot more painful so I'm fine sticking it out.

I took my hand off my paddle, popped it back in, and rolled up. The next rapid was right down river so swimming was kind of out of the question.
I'm really calm and collected under water and am so used to dislocating my shoulder (thank god) that I was able to stop myself from panicking/swimming.
I think the worst part was having to dislocate it again to un-pinch everything after I had rolled up and eddied out.

Definitely a humbling experience though.

subluxation i believe

OP I would recommend talking to an orthopedic surgeon. As an Athletic Trainer (physio to those in canada and europe) I have delt with plenty of athletes with shoulder injuries. after 2 subluxations I refer my athletes to an ortho which usually leads to an MRI or a scope. If you are subluxing and even dislocating that often then obviously there is an issue with the ligamentous structure. Yes strengthening the surrounding muscles will help but because the joint is a ball and socket it allows for a greater range of motion meaning that even with nothing wrong in the shoulder the joint is still very unstable (unlike the knee that only moves in 2 planes). surgery, PT, and continued shoulder exercises will bring the shoulder back to as close to normal as possible. Best of luck with what ever path you take!

Basically, as anyone who has had a reconstruction of their shoulder knows: it will be the most miserable, painful experience of your life.

I Had my shoulder reconstructed 4 years ago and then tore everything slipping in the shower 1 week post op(first time i was allowed to shower post op)...literally felt every suture and anchor rip apart. That was pretty damn painful. then spent the next 6 months going to PT trying to strengthen it while it was "healing". Fucking terrible.

then i put on 60lbs of muscle and have had no issues with it outside of a couple extremely violent crashes MTBing and skiing. thats why i am very hesitant to go get it fixed. As of Feb 2012 i had 3 tears of m labrum, torn shoulder capsule, subluxed bicep tendon, and moderate degeneration of the AC joint. Then last Auguse i had a brutal crash MTBing and crushed that shoulder, tearing my rotator cuff.

Keeping muscle on has helped minimize the impact of the injury on my daily life to an extent that i am 50/50 on if i want to get surgery again.

jeesus christ im ganna try my hand at doing some upper body work. I have been VERY lazy in my daily workout routine so considering i have no insurance and no way of getting any im going to wait and put some effort into working out.