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Are my boots too small?

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WU-sconsin
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I just got the full tilt drop kicks a few weeks ago and I liked them alot, thought they fit fine and were comfortable. I got them fitted at my local shop and everything, but when I started skiing with them, I would bash my toe on the front of my boot when I land even a little backseat. Now I have two purple, painful big toes and I won't be able to ski for a while now. Are my boots too small or is it just because of landing backseat?
Jan 3 2013 12:14AM
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shea.
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It is because you land backseat. And make sure your nails are cut short. but could be too small as well i guess, i cant tell.
Jan 3 2013 12:18AM
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WU-sconsin
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Yeah but if I land backseat like a little should it hurt a shitload?
Jan 3 2013 12:20AM
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CalebT
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if your toe is just slightly touching the end of your boot when you are standing normal the size is right. landing backseat no matter the size of boot will give you toe bang so don't stress too hard, if you land backseat just take it easy until the pain goes away and focus on landing right.
Jan 3 2013 12:21AM
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WU-sconsin
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cool thanks

Jan 3 2013 12:24AM
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skiEER
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a good way to really tell how your boots fit is to take out you liner and put your your foot in the boot and measure how much space there is with your toe just touching the front.  You should have at the very least 1/2"

Jan 3 2013 12:31AM
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Frazelli
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my guess is that it is not to small. like the person said above me take out the liner from the boot. This is called shell fitting. A general rule of thumb is. Take the liner out and put your foot in the boot and have your toes touching the front of the boot while they are still touching bend your knee forward and you should be able to stick 2 fingers in the space of your heel and the back of the boot.
If for some reason they are a little small you should consider asking your local shop to punch the front of the boot instead of buying a whole new boot. This is where they heat up the shell and add toe room which may help get rid of the toe pain you have right now.
Jan 3 2013 12:50AM
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WU-sconsin
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ight thanks very helpful I'll def try that
Jan 3 2013 12:57AM
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onenerdykid
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When you got them fitted and everything, did you get aftermarket footbeds or just what came with the boot?

If you did not get footbeds, this is your first priority. A flexible foot that is unsupported will elongate inside the boot and consequently cause your toes to slam into the front. A footbed supports your flexible foot and does not allow your foot to collapse/elongate which in turn keeps your toes from smashing the front of the boot.
Jan 3 2013 7:28AM
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lelandsdad
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All above advice is good. I'd add that it may be as simple as you're not buckling them tight enough. Particularly the middle buckle. The liners start to conform/pack out after a few times so you may need to tighten em down. If the shells were fit in a shop the size should be o.k. Your foots probably moving around when you land in the back seat.

Jan 3 2013 7:38AM
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.MASSHOLE.
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Then there is always the chance they are too small...as stated above do the shell test (foot in shell w/o liner). My race boots give me less than half an inch standing normally post grinding+punching, but thats what I needed. Most would consider them too small, I found them perfect for what I needed them for
Jan 3 2013 9:08AM
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Montana_Hoodrat
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they're probably too big.

here's why:

1. the felt good in the shop (they should feel tight as a motherfucker, because all boots pack out a shit ton after a couple days of skiing)

2. your foot is moving around in the boot. (with proper fitting boots, your foot will be locked, so there will be slight toe pressure all the time, without your foot slamming into the front on backseat landings

I'd suggest getting a size smaller, then letting the liner pack out to your foot, or punching out the toe box.


there is absolutely NOTHING worse than ski boots that are too big. you'll get shin and toe bang all day long.

also, stay away from the back seat. shin bang hurts
Jan 3 2013 9:50AM
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cheerio
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same here man i bought some booters like 3 months ago and i skied with them 14 times but i still have minor toe bang and shin bang, i hate boots problems its my third pair of boots in just over a year and idk what to do anymore!
Jan 3 2013 2:04PM
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onenerdykid
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Are you simply buying boots or is an actual boot-fitter helping you select the best boot for you? Do you have footbeds or no? Answering these questions will help ensure this doesn't happen a 4th time.
Jan 3 2013 2:48PM
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pinkthong
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you're feet probably grew
Jan 3 2013 2:58PM
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therealjalty
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i tried a friends spks a while back and thought they were so uncomfortable compared to my full tilts. then when my boots were stolen i went to see a boot fitter to pick out new ones and lo and behold spks were the best fit for me. i really cant stress enough the importance of a boot fitter.

and as far as the toe bang issue, the little rubber toe cap on the spks is probably the greatest thing salomon has done since the pocket rocket.
Jan 3 2013 3:13PM
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YewTard
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THIS. I can confirm having finally gone to a bootfitter recently and learning the process/getting everything dialed in.

I'm currently in a boot that's definitely smaller than I otherwise would have purchased on my own. You most likely have too much room in the front of the boot, so when you land backseat there's that space for your foot to slide forward and slam the toe box. I used to have this problem. I got custom footbeds with a custom liner (intuition) and now my boots are so f'ing tight there's no way my foot would move around in them.

My boots will actually be a little too tight for a bit, and that's part of the process. Once I put 50 or so days on them they're gonna pack out and fit perfectly. But if you go with the smaller size they can make adjustments to conform to your foot- in my case they had to blow out the big toe a little bit for me to create some room, but if your boots are too big they can't do anything to make them smaller per se.

Jan 3 2013 4:51PM
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Luksi
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onenerdykidWhen you got them fitted and everything, did you get aftermarket footbeds or just what came with the boot?

If you did not get footbeds, this is your first priority. A flexible foot that is unsupported will elongate inside the boot and consequently cause your toes to slam into the front. A footbed supports your flexible foot and does not allow your foot to collapse/elongate which in turn keeps your toes from smashing the front of the boot.


what kind of footbeds work for that? just looked at a few online shops and they have so many different models and stuff. thanks
Jan 24 2019 8:17AM
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BackWoods420
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lelandsdadAll above advice is good. I'd add that it may be as simple as you're not buckling them tight enough. Particularly the middle buckle. The liners start to conform/pack out after a few times so you may need to tighten em down. If the shells were fit in a shop the size should be o.k. Your foots probably moving around when you land in the back seat.

Same problem as you. This fixed it for me. Top and middle buckles one buckle tighter and it got fixed for me.
Jan 24 2019 8:31AM
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onenerdykid
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Luksiwhat kind of footbeds work for that? just looked at a few online shops and they have so many different models and stuff. thanks


Solid thread bump.

In order to find the right footbed, you cannot do this online. You need to visit a boot-fitter who can examine your foot and find the right match to your foot's needs. Doing it any other way is a guaranteed way to waste your money.

If you do not have a boot-fitter locally, then visit one at the ski area where you go skiing.
Jan 24 2019 9:40AM
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