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A question for gun control advocates..

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las.
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Do you also support the war on drugs and the TSA?
Why or why not?
Dec 29 2012 7:37PM
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ryano
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Dec 29 2012 7:38PM
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roddy116
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wait for or against?
Dec 29 2012 7:38PM
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El_Barto.
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i disagree
Dec 29 2012 7:39PM
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Thadius.Castle
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Yes and not necessarily. I support the war on harder narcotics, but weed has the potential to generate huge revenues, and has helped in thousands of medical cases. The TSA. . Meh. I just read a story of the guys who control the X-Ray machines abusing that power. I feel that we as American's need strict Airport security, but not the TSA persay. But the problem is, if not them, then who?
Dec 29 2012 7:40PM
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tripnip
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Private sector company...
Dec 29 2012 8:20PM
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PhaedeD
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No for the drug war, we need some kind of TSA but these jokers that are working in airports are honestly half retarded.
Dec 29 2012 8:24PM
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accualyisdolan
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Dude I'm sorta halfway about meth and crack, but heroin and coke shouldn't be listed in ur "bad" list. Heroin for example has a really bad rap. Yeah it's addictive and if you get in too deep withdrawals will suck, but so is the case with tobacco and alcohol. Doing h occasionally is a ton of fun. Everything in moderation
Dec 29 2012 8:24PM
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accualyisdolan
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Except sushi
Dec 29 2012 8:25PM
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Thadius.Castle
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Cocaine, meth, heroine, they are all fucking deadly lol.
Dec 29 2012 8:38PM
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Casey
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That has success written all over it
Dec 29 2012 8:44PM
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Bread_Fish
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Yes but people who are taking drugs are only hurting themselves. Guns hurt others. As far as the TSA it is inconvenient but necessary.
Dec 29 2012 8:46PM
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PhilboydStudge
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Heroines are usually good...


As for the guy who said H shouldn't be in the bad list, really? Heroin is worse for you and more addictive than crack, so if you're saying H shouldn't be in the bad list then those shouldn't either. Like you said, everything in moderation. Unfortunately, most people don't have much self-control so that doesn't work.


I forget the original questions exactly, but I do not support the war on drugs in any form. I would most support a policy similar to what Portugal has done with decriminalization and rehabilitation.

TSA is a joke. The reason airport security is necessary in this country is because of our foreign policy for many years. TSA is not necessary. People have been talking a lot about scapegoats after the Newton shooting, and that blaming guns etc. isn't really addressing the problem. I think TSA is the same, and that it's just an excuse for us to continue our "America is the best!" mantra and then say that we're trying to stop terrorists by subjugating everyone to ridiculous screenings. Hopefully someday we can learn
Dec 29 2012 8:54PM
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grown-ninja
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First page claim for another Shitty thread
Dec 29 2012 8:56PM
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DANETRON
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This is probably the stupidest thing ive ever read on ns.
Dec 30 2012 12:04AM
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loomis
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Dec 30 2012 12:20AM
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roddy116
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this thread is now the ERMAHGERD thread, ill start

ERMAHGERD he werent ter jerrreerrddd

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Dec 30 2012 12:34AM
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Tinga
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if you became a crack whore I bet you're mother wouldn't be too happy.
Dec 30 2012 12:37AM
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Bread_Fish
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Not physically I should say
Dec 30 2012 12:39AM
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Tinga
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you ever seen breaking bad? that dude's head is not coming back.
Dec 30 2012 12:55AM
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Where-am-I
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i think we should spend most of the money we spend on the war on drugs, on rehab programs and education about the effects of drug abuse. i think people should be able to purchase weapons, but that mandatory background checks and waiting periods depending on the power of the weapon should be implemented, perhaps waiting periods could be shortened if an individual took gun safety courses. I've never personally or known anyone personally that has a problem with the TSA, they did take my toy pistol when i was six, but hey thats fair, i got over it eventually.
Dec 30 2012 12:56AM
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accualyisdolan
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Heroin isn't as close to as bad as crack. Crackheads lose their memory of everything. There was a show where a crackhead mother didn't even recognize her own son. Shit is weak. If someone wants to do crack that's their own prerogative. But thinking h is as bad as crack is stupid
Dec 30 2012 9:53PM
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Mr.Sloth
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You tried, and that's what matters
Dec 30 2012 10:08PM
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cydwhit
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No to 'war on drugs' yes to spiritual revival/education so that people don't do drugs...No to government TSA, yes to privately owned airline securitys
Dec 30 2012 10:12PM
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roddy116
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meh it seemed appropriate, i just really wanted to put that somewhere
Dec 30 2012 10:21PM
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thedawg
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ha it made me lol!!!
Dec 30 2012 11:00PM
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mattytru
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privately owned companies are corruptable as they provide a service in exchange for money... kind of undermines the point. the goals of a private company are different than those of a government. i think government run is the way to go for TSA
Dec 31 2012 1:01AM
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PhaedeD
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This is why privatized prisons are horrible... They make money off people being in jail, the lobby incredibly hard to keep things illegal or make then illegal...
Dec 31 2012 8:37AM
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Sparta
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No- moderation makes sense only when talking about good things. There is no moderate/proper amount of raping someone, or taking part in a school shooting, or doing crack or cheating on your girlfriend. Moderation does not apply to things that are already bad.

Also, get your facts straight. If you become addicted to heroin and try to get off it cold turkey, you can die from the withdrawal alone. You can't die from tobacco or alcohol withdrawal (although other problems can happen with alcoholics and withdrawal).
Dec 31 2012 8:47AM
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Stickity
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tsa needs reformed
war on drugs in regards to weed and stupid shit like moonshine is a waste of resources. spend your time finding meth labs and cartels
Dec 31 2012 10:56AM
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BChaps1209
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valiant effort +k
Dec 31 2012 10:59AM
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californiagrown
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yes, and yes. the drug war employs friends on both sides of the law that would lose their livlihoods if the drug war stopped.

TSA has never ever, ever had any negative effect on my life. What is the reason it is so bad? Cause some random dude might see you in your skivies 4 times per year? Flying isnt a right, its a privlege so you sacrifice privacy for safety. i think the should be more intrusive personally.
Dec 31 2012 12:37PM
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Petey.
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-Leave the 2nd Amendment alone. Trying to impose a ban or major reform will create issues we are not ready to deal with.

-The War on Drugs is failing. Legalize all drugs to reverse the problems it has brought us as a nation.

-I have no opinion on the TSA
Dec 31 2012 1:10PM
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scandy101
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flying is a right..
Dec 31 2012 1:11PM
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MNS
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No. Leave now
Dec 31 2012 1:29PM
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MNS
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Fucking autocorrect. *Leave now.
Dec 31 2012 1:30PM
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accualyisdolan
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Your a fucking idiot. You absolutely cannot die from heroin withdrawal or any opiate withdrawal. Also many ppl consider weed bad so your bias in calling heroin bad is absurd. You don't know what the fuck your talking about so quit spewing out of your ass you ignorant tool
Dec 31 2012 3:29PM
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fujarome
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direct me to that portion of the constitution, would you?
Dec 31 2012 3:33PM
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accualyisdolan
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Also you CAN die from alcohol withdrawal you fuck stick. Keep up with your tirade that heroin is the same as raping someone you stupid fuck
Dec 31 2012 3:34PM
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accualyisdolan
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And lastly, many patients in the uk are treated with heroin as a pain killer. Is that as bad as raping someone?
Dec 31 2012 3:40PM
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Casey
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NS loves their smack apparently.
Dec 31 2012 6:18PM
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roddy116
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Dec 31 2012 6:21PM
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Stickity
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is it being used in the same dosage and for the same purpose? does it have the same destructive effects? no? fuck off.
Dec 31 2012 6:28PM
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TOAST.
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lol
Dec 31 2012 6:31PM
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scandy101
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49 us code-section 40103... A citizen of the United States has a public right of transit through the navigable airspace.

TSA also violates the 4th amendment, when they stop you, make you go through an x-ray, pat you down, stop you from proceeding etc.. they are performing an unreasonable search and seizure.
Dec 31 2012 7:23PM
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fujarome
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you most certainly do. Nothing is stopping you from buying an aircraft and flying it.

And once again, the government isn't stopping you from flying. But if you'll take a look at the back of your ticket, it's nothing but fine print. And what it says is that you can't step near their plane (which is privately owned) until you've been searched. If the airline wanted to, they could deny you for just about any reason they want. Is it fair? Sure. They own the plane and the crew. So long as they refund you etc, they don't need to do a damn thing for you.

And the issue of airport security screening being unconstitutional was settled back in 1973.
Jan 1 2013 12:40AM
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El_Barto.
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Going through security is the only action i get. I always leave coins in my pockets
Jan 1 2013 12:44AM
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californiagrown
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pretty much.
Jan 1 2013 4:11PM
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scandy101
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This is what i dont understand though, if a privately owned airline decided they didnt want their customers to be searched, would they be exempt? Say if united decided they dont want TSA screening passengers, could they just walk straight onto the plane?

I had a good chat about this with a frontier pilot, and he said he does not know of any law or regulation that requires you to go through security to fly on a privately owned plane, the airline can refuse you service, but technically if you flew on an airline that didnt require a security screening, you would be able to refuse to be screened and pass on through.

Id like to see what law says you have to be screened by tsa to fly on a privately owned airline. Im more curious than anything, because as far as i know, you are not required by LAW.
Jan 1 2013 5:00PM
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Bread.
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one question to all those in favour of keeping the guns laws how they are. You think guns are safe then tell me what guns are designed to do
Jan 1 2013 5:11PM
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fujarome
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as far as I know, there isn't a law requiring it. however the FAA, who governs airlines and pretty much everything aviation related in the US, does require it.

failure to adhere to the faa requirements leads to loss of licenses and certification. so you could operate an airline that doesn't require searches, but you'd be shut down immediately.
Jan 1 2013 5:26PM
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