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Bumpy run-ins to features?

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bob.marley
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Hi,

  This doesn't involve anyone who skis park, but most of the time on the steep run-ins down to a jump, drop whatever, it seems like it is very choppy, moguly etc. and when you are trying to go faster it always throws me backseat, and then when I take off it screws up my balance horribly some worse than others. But some people make it look so smoothe skiing in, w/ balance and those are the people who carry the most speed and have the smoothest air. Do you know what I mean? What have you found to be a good thought so you're not falling back and just jarring yourself into every bump leading up to the jump or whatever it is?

Dec 27 2012 6:53PM
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Thadius.Castle
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Wait what?

Aside from my eyes bleeding, I caught that you experience a lot of bumpy in-runs. Probably just a side result of negligent park staff.
Dec 27 2012 6:56PM
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stickski
Posts: 1938 - Karma: 1,529
he's not talking about park. he's talking about bc style jumps in the resort.
and OP what kind of skis do you have? I know my skis really help me charge through crud.. other than that I try to have a wide, solid stance and just try to stay forward and loose. being loose will allow you to just flow over the bumps, hope this helps, oh and practice and time will help.
Dec 27 2012 7:06PM
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a_burger
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work on your absorption skills. Otherwise get some beefier skis that can just run through that shit


Dec 27 2012 7:10PM
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bob.marley
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Ya, I am not talking about park jumps, just anything in the resort.

And I do think I tense up a lot skiing into a feature and get nervous sometimes for no reason skiing into it, probably why too. I ski at Snowbird, have Atomic Blogs 177cm and they might be a tad small because I am 5'8 140lbs, but still I try not to just blame equipment as much as i can.

Dec 27 2012 7:25PM
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Seany.n
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learn how to ski before u hit jumps. problem solved
Dec 27 2012 8:12PM
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stickski
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For some reason I was guessing you skid alta or snowbird haha, anyway a lot of kids I see do what you're describing, they tense up going into a jump because they're nervous and they aren't in a position to handle the bumps and hit the jump being forward and in control. You can still be nervous heading into a jump, just make a  conscious effort to stay forward and lose with your body and absorb the bumps.
Dec 27 2012 8:41PM
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tomPietrowski
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Its all down to technique really. Try to do some mogals training. Its amazing how much your skills will improve. Try to find a club and just go learn to ski the bumps. Once you can zip a bump line the whole mountain becomes so much easier.
Dec 27 2012 8:52PM
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heFF
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sounds like you need to be in the front of your boot more and take a more aggressive stance
Dec 27 2012 9:11PM
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NEIL-YOUNG
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Dec 27 2012 10:29PM
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NEIL-YOUNG
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^not me  (gaper friend)  skip to 2:45 only applicaple part
Dec 27 2012 10:40PM
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bob.marley
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haha sort of
Dec 27 2012 11:42PM
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SeanB
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Helpful and thought provoking all at once, if only he had just asked you specifically.
Dec 27 2012 11:49PM
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SeanB
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I should perhaps add to my mind numbingly sarcastic post above that I feel your pain, it is a mystery to me how people hit bc shit with sketchy inruns with no apparent ill-effects when I myself would hit the same shit (despite having "learned how to ski" and then some to continue the aforementioned sarcasm) and end up launching myself into some sort of inadvertant backflip to tragic failure.
Dec 27 2012 11:53PM
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Kickerzzz
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Blogs are part of your problem - I have them too and experience the same thing. Blogs are known to chatter and don't handle bumped-out terrain that well. If I hit the same runs on stiffer skis, like my Volkl Steps, I have no issues.

I love my Blogs but reserve them more for pow duty. Btw, 177 cm is fine for your height. I'm 183 and ski a 185.
Dec 28 2012 8:02PM
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SkiTennessee
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the look on that kids face when he eats shit hahahaha
Dec 28 2012 8:10PM
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TheUngroomed
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keep your knees bent and absorb it
Dec 29 2012 1:12AM
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PeppermillReno
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This thread is less confusing now OP says he skis Bird and Alta since I do remember there being a ton of sweet little jumps scattered around those mountains at sides of trails and such.

I'd just suggest bending your knees and absorbing them like someone suggested.


Dec 29 2012 1:31AM
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NinetyFour
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I feel genuinely bad for him for some odd reason. Maybe it's the innocent look on his face... Idk. Maybe it's because I was there what seems like not too long ago...

Are you a pretty good ripper? Give home some pointers and get him forward, driving those skis.
Dec 29 2012 1:56AM
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IDMT_BC024
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Learn how to ski.... haha
But for real thats the best answer, if you can't stay in balance on the in run then you probably have some stance issues. Try to stay forward but balanced on the center of your skis. Think of your legs as shock absorbers, keep them too loose and you fall or knee yourself in the face, too tight and the shock will knock you into the back seat. Ski a lot of moguls to get the balance down. Getting damper skis will help too. Stiff doesn't always equal stable in crud, damp does.


Random tangent time because I'm really baked:
A lot of people overestimate how good they are at all mountain skiing (no offense and I'm not calling anyone in this thread out this is just something I've noticed) because they don't recognize good all mountain style. It's the difference between penciling a sketch 7 and floating a smooth corked 7 with a solid grab, both skiers can 7 but one is clearly better than the other. Most park skiers recognize the difference in the park, but assume they are solid all mountain skiers because they can skid down most runs. There's nothing wrong with that but a lot of park skiers don't realize how creative you can get with natural features and what they're missing because they don;t recognize good style and try to imitate it out of the park. There's nothing more fun then hauling ass holding an edge (try running a "straight" line through crud on edge without turning, it helps with stability on run ins) into a tracked out steep chute, popping of a natural lip over a small drop and landing on a narrow tranny off the back of a pile of crud or a mogul, turning out in complete control super fast, banging out a couple of quick turns between crud piles, then straight lining out to a big slash to switch ride out in a patch of untracked pow below. Super fun but it takes skills that too many people don't take the time to practice because they're only skiing from one hit to another and ignoring everything in between.
Dec 29 2012 2:11AM
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Peachbutt
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Pump it like a motherfucker
Dec 29 2012 10:01AM
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crab_pretzel
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haha theyre definitely not too small. all i can say is make sure your slightly forward, like fully overtop of your boots. i think its better for your legs for absorbing the bumps and ruts
Dec 29 2012 11:19AM
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