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Heal lift in boots..

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Daver_BC
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Is there a die hard way to fi this.
My boots are super comfy but my heal comes up slightly on butters and such.
I want my heals locked the fuck down.

Please Help!


Dec 4 2012 9:41PM
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Puzzled
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I'm wondering the same thing. My boots are fully tightened, and still, my heels will lift up on aggressive nosepress/switch landings. After long days of skiing, my heels are all red and hurt like hell.
Never happened last season, wtf..

Going filming tomorrow, thought I would put 2-3 pairs of socks ahah. I'll let you know if it helped.
Dec 4 2012 9:45PM
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Session
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3 buckle boot. Not necessarily Full Tilt, but one that fits.
Dec 4 2012 9:46PM
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ShredAZ
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Talk to a boot fitter about getting a custom foot bed to raise your heal every so slightly.
It's a "band-aid" fix for an ill-fitted boot, but it should get the job done if heal lift is minimal.
Dec 4 2012 9:46PM
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Puzzled
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Also I'm wearing full tilts and never had this problem till now. Did my feet fucking shrink?
Dec 4 2012 9:48PM
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Round-Four
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boots break down over time, just like the rest of your equipment.
Dec 4 2012 9:49PM
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ShredAZ
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Liner packed out.
The footbeds don't even need to be custom molded, but definitely talk to a fitter on this one. You can pick up some footbeds that will help for as little as $30/pair.
Dec 4 2012 9:50PM
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garrett.
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i had the same problem. At least i think i did based on your description. What happened with my boots is that the shell of the boot in the heal area comes out a little bit at the bottom. I got a dremmel and sanded those down so i had more area to get my heel down so when i would crank my boots down my heal also got down to the proper place. made a huge difference for me.
Dec 4 2012 9:53PM
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Puzzled
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Makes sense I'll check that out. +k!
Dec 4 2012 9:54PM
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c4t_l0ver
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okay i did get fitted like 2 years ago for some fulltilts, they were perfect. after they just got all fucked up, i bought a new pair same size (my feet have not grown). but this pair my heel lifts when i lean forward to do butters, my other pair did not do this. i did get them heat molded and everything. would a custom footbed or something like superfeet fix the problem?
Dec 4 2012 10:45PM
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schwab
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this solved my problem, shop gave it to me after coming to them with the problem.

Dec 4 2012 11:26PM
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Montana_Hoodrat
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perfect
Dec 4 2012 11:43PM
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Daver_BC
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just what I needed!
Dec 5 2012 12:36AM
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onenerdykid
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A footbed is more than just a band-aid, it is the foundation for a stable foot and proper alignment. A lot of heel lift is caused by the forefoot flexing and when your forefoot flexes too much, your foot shifts laterally and upwards in a ski boot resulting in a heel lift. So step one is get a footbed and have your liners remolded because your foot will be in a new position.

After you stabilize your foot properly, a boot-fitter can apply J-shaped pads around your ankle area to really hold your ankle in place. But, without a footbed, you will still most likely have ankle movement. Make sure to get that first.
Dec 5 2012 3:28AM
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onenerdykid
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the potential problem with these pads is that they also take up space behind your heel/ankle, consequently pushing your foot forward in the shell. this could result in more toe bang.

follow the steps I proposed first before you try a pad of that size.
Dec 5 2012 3:58AM
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I_Am_Mod
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make sure you properly fasten your boots, when putting them on, tap your heel on the ground a few times to make sure it's pressed all the way against the back, then buckle from bottom to top....
Dec 5 2012 6:15AM
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Puzzled
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Wore two pair of socks today, worked like a charm.
Dec 5 2012 4:06PM
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Montana_Hoodrat
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or loosely bucke the top buckles first as well as the power/booster strap, and flex hard into your boots to push your heel back, then buckle the lower buckles before you stand back up straight again.
Dec 5 2012 5:14PM
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SkierX
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Your boots are either very ill fitting, or it is far beyond time for new liners.

You should never be able to wear two pairs of socks.
Dec 5 2012 5:44PM
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Dr.Dickless
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your liners are probably shot, but seeing as theyre expensive to replace you could try this instead.

buy really cheap foam insoles (the ones that are white and like $2 at walmart) and you cut them to size and put them in your liner until your heels no longer lift
Dec 5 2012 6:52PM
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tomPietrowski
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One nerdy already gave you the footbed info above, so I wont bother adding to that, but what I wanted to add was checking the volume and shape of the heel of the boot and also checking the space above the instep.

Its important to make sure the heel pocket fits you. All heels are different shapes but there are only so many boot shapes, so it will be quite common to need to change the shape.

Remember that a heel lift, however small will change your balance point. This could be good for you or it could be bad.

What could help some people more is padding the top of the liner on the instep. Adding foam to the heel of the liner can help, but its often a good idea to put extra foam in front of the foot rather then behind. Its for this reason padding the instep may help. However if there is not much space here this may not work as well as adding the foam to the back of the liner.

But hopefully this shows there is much more going on then just your heel lifting. A good bootfitter can help you really dial in and help you get the most out of your boots.
Dec 5 2012 6:52PM
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