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Huck_Norris
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I've been noticing lately that there are a few people on here who are into touring and earning their turns.  Where are you from, where are you touring and whatchagot for touring setups? 

I'm from mass but tour all over the EC and also when I go west for vaca (usually UT/BCC/LCC).  Mostly in VT along the green spine though while I'm home.  Right now I'm on Whitedot Redeemers quiverkilled for Plum Guides, but my 12/13 ON3P Billy Goat Tours should be on my doorstep by tomorrow- and will be my go-to touring skis for the majority of the season.  My boots are Dalbello Virus Tours with cochise top straps grafted on as well because I hated the stock top bail. 

So what's up with you, oh rando beasts of NS?   

Nov 13 2012 11:28AM
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LC.
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~Gotama~Thinking I'm gonna pull the trigger on the rossi Soul 7 (106mm) with tyrolia adrenalines, 180cm length. I'm 6'1 155 pounds and using them as my east coast backcountry slutspankers.


Go for the 188 for sure. They're nice skis but very soft in the tip, so you'll be able to handle it.
Jun 3 2014 5:44AM
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tomPietrowski
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BoaxGo for the 188 for sure. They're nice skis but very soft in the tip, so you'll be able to handle it.


You may be fine on te 180 actually. I'm 5'11 and 175lbs and was fine on the 180. I would for sure get the 188 if I was getting the super 7 and wanted a charging ski but the soul is not that type of ski. It's a much more playfull ski and can be skied smaller. Also if your touring on it keep the weight down and get the shorter pair. If you were out west it may be differnt but for the east I woul think that set up would be great.
Jun 3 2014 8:23AM
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~Gotama~
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tomPietrowskiYou may be fine on te 180 actually. I'm 5'11 and 175lbs and was fine on the 180. I would for sure get the 188 if I was getting the super 7 and wanted a charging ski but the soul is not that type of ski. It's a much more playfull ski and can be skied smaller. Also if your touring on it keep the weight down and get the shorter pair. If you were out west it may be differnt but for the east I woul think that set up would be great.


This is what I was thinking. I want to keep myself available in tight trees and flatter terrain, which you inevitably get a good bit of in the Adirondaks. my last setup was 178 with a full rocker and it felt just right, until I brought it out west were it was definitely too small. Once I feel the how soft the skis are in my hand I think it will be easier to decide.
Jun 3 2014 9:47AM
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~Gotama~
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I found an epicski review that has thoroughly sold me on these skis.

http://www.epicski.com/t/120313/2014-rossignol-soul-7-the-spork-of-skis
Jun 4 2014 6:21PM
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Rachy
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Already asked in gear talk... but suggestion of a duffle bag saddens me and made me come to here.

I need to pick up a pack and sadly going and trying on really isn't an option since I need it soon and shops here are out of stock.

Multi day pack around 40 - 50L sans airbag or avylung that will fit as a carryon on a plane.

Hoping to find something lightweight and comfortable. I'm 5'7 and pretty strong, so I don't necessitate a women's specific pack.

Not really thinking snow camping... more so hut trips.

Basically trying to have everything contained between a pack and double ski bag.


So anyone have a pack that they love that fits the criteria?
Jun 5 2014 2:04PM
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ShredMasterPlus
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Well I have the BD revelation 35l pack from Last year, Sans avalung and its a 35litre and works in a pinch for a few nights out, its really packed though when I toss in cramps and ice axes and any tech gear, If i needed to toss a rope in for glacier travel plus harness it wouldn't work without having a shitload of stuff hanging outside waiting to fall off in the trees. My roommate has the Anarchist which is 45l and really is the perfect pack, unfortunately I don't think It comes without an avylung unfortunately. Maybe an older version used would work though? I no arcteryx makes some really nice packs but don't really have any hands on with them so can't help you there.

Also check out osprey they make some good packs.
Jun 5 2014 3:57PM
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fragglemuffin
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I really like my Deuter Guide Tour 45+. Side and top access, A-frame and diag. ski carry, independent avy tool pocket, excellent suspension, rack loops for extra mountaineering/crevasse rescue gear and a thick plastic area on the front for safely storing crampons.

I work for Arc'teryx and was about to jump on the Khamski 48 but my buddy has it and says the ski carry isn't all that great and it definitely has very minimal suspension. If ski carry is not at the top of your list and you won't be carrying too much weight, however, the Khamski is still a great multi-day option.
Jun 5 2014 5:41PM
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bakedpow
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osprey makes great 40l packs, not sure what the model name is though. iv got an osprey 25l, 50l, and 90l. you could say i like osprey..
Jun 5 2014 8:08PM
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rudager
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Headed out to Highwood Pass tomorrow, it snowed there this past week, so it could make a good expedition.
And if it's not doable, it's also climbing season
Jun 7 2014 1:44PM
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MPapania
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eastern ontario, i do alot of snowshoeing when i get bored of the local hill.
Jun 7 2014 4:28PM
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jblaski
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*cgski*Anyone familiar touring with 4FRNT Hoji? I'm thinking about pulling the trigger on buying them in 187' (im about 6 feet) for next season. Going to MSU in the fall and want something that i can do some day tours on and have some fun. Probably going to put Barons on them since i can get them for super cheap...time for lunges


I'm a little late on this, but I had a few days on the Hoji this year. To start with, I did nearly all my touring on my K2 Fujas' as well as my inbounds skiing and patrolling. So that's what I'm comparing the Hoji to. My initial impression was that it was a very slow turning ski, that even when I was out on the edges, it never felt like I could rail it in the corners. It's definitely a ski that likes to make long slow side to side turns. It did hold a pretty good edge on the groomers, but certainly didn't want to spend their time there. It also didn't like the trees either. Like I said, it just doesn't like to go quick edge to edge.

I did most of my riding at Brighton (Utah), and if you're familiar with the resort, the Milly side is where this ski really shined. I had a ton of fun in the steep lines off the peak, where it was long radius turns in wide open terrain. The ski floated quite well, even without a ton of rocker. I didn't get on it on a true epic pow day, but I feel like it would be ok for it. Personally I'd like a ski fatter and softer, but I'm sure this would handle it. It handled chunder, chop, avi debris, and tracked out terrain pretty well, and didn't feel like it wanted to toss me off it.

If you're looking for a ski that loves wide open, fast speed, long radius type of skiing, but still can get you down a groomer to your favorite pow stash, this would be a good ski. If you're looking for something to ski trees, quick turns, and mostly beat up terrain, I'd probably keep looking.
Jun 7 2014 6:08PM
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jblaski
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Avalanche awareness classes and MUCH beacon practice is as important as any gear you put in your bag.
Jun 7 2014 8:21PM
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~Gotama~
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if you're willing to put the money towards it an AT set up will make a big difference. Snowshoeing or bootpacking works fine too bu tit takes a lot of fun out of it when you have to kick your ass for every run. of course if your buddies aren't using splitboards you will be leaving them in the dust with an AT setup.
Jun 8 2014 9:11AM
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Aenigma
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I got out in the Crazies this weekend for what will probably be my last ski trip of the year. Both the lines I wanted to ski were melted out, so I should've been here a few weeks ago, but I made do with what I had and pieced together some alright runs.











This is definitely the mountain range to be in if you want to have 200 couloirs in sight off of every peak.
Jun 8 2014 11:41AM
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Ghini
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^ Solo? I see only one pair of skis...
I hope to go ski camping next year, not shure what area (I'm in Europe..)
Jun 8 2014 12:26PM
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Aenigma
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Yep.
Jun 8 2014 12:31PM
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cwillygood
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jblaskiI'm a little late on this, but I had a few days on the Hoji this year. To start with, I did nearly all my touring on my K2 Fujas' as well as my inbounds skiing and patrolling. So that's what I'm comparing the Hoji to. My initial impression was that it was a very slow turning ski, that even when I was out on the edges, it never felt like I could rail it in the corners. It's definitely a ski that likes to make long slow side to side turns. It did hold a pretty good edge on the groomers, but certainly didn't want to spend their time there. It also didn't like the trees either. Like I said, it just doesn't like to go quick edge to edge.

I did most of my riding at Brighton (Utah), and if you're familiar with the resort, the Milly side is where this ski really shined. I had a ton of fun in the steep lines off the peak, where it was long radius turns in wide open terrain. The ski floated quite well, even without a ton of rocker. I didn't get on it on a true epic pow day, but I feel like it would be ok for it. Personally I'd like a ski fatter and softer, but I'm sure this would handle it. It handled chunder, chop, avi debris, and tracked out terrain pretty well, and didn't feel like it wanted to toss me off it.

If you're looking for a ski that loves wide open, fast speed, long radius type of skiing, but still can get you down a groomer to your favorite pow stash, this would be a good ski. If you're looking for something to ski trees, quick turns, and mostly beat up terrain, I'd probably keep looking.



interesting review
Jun 8 2014 12:59PM
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cwillygood
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jblaskiI'm a little late on this, but I had a few days on the Hoji this year. To start with, I did nearly all my touring on my K2 Fujas' as well as my inbounds skiing and patrolling. So that's what I'm comparing the Hoji to. My initial impression was that it was a very slow turning ski, that even when I was out on the edges, it never felt like I could rail it in the corners. It's definitely a ski that likes to make long slow side to side turns. It did hold a pretty good edge on the groomers, but certainly didn't want to spend their time there. It also didn't like the trees either. Like I said, it just doesn't like to go quick edge to edge.

I did most of my riding at Brighton (Utah), and if you're familiar with the resort, the Milly side is where this ski really shined. I had a ton of fun in the steep lines off the peak, where it was long radius turns in wide open terrain. The ski floated quite well, even without a ton of rocker. I didn't get on it on a true epic pow day, but I feel like it would be ok for it. Personally I'd like a ski fatter and softer, but I'm sure this would handle it. It handled chunder, chop, avi debris, and tracked out terrain pretty well, and didn't feel like it wanted to toss me off it.

If you're looking for a ski that loves wide open, fast speed, long radius type of skiing, but still can get you down a groomer to your favorite pow stash, this would be a good ski. If you're looking for something to ski trees, quick turns, and mostly beat up terrain, I'd probably keep looking.



interesting review
Jun 8 2014 12:59PM
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Aenigma
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Here's another one from a couple weeks ago. It's a run called The Ribbon, in the Hyalites just south of Bozeman, MT.



Jun 10 2014 11:01PM
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srwinnsuco
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Still great skiing to be had in Colorado. This picture is from a trip in the Gore Range skiing Peak R June 11th. Long way in but a great time!
Jun 17 2014 1:24PM
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PimpHands
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Me and my bud have just opted for a CAST touring set up- just waiting on the plates, alraedy got the toe pieces and had our new tilts converted to accept the tech toe.
Means we can rock our P18/FKS on the way down and tech toe on the way up!
Jun 17 2014 7:29PM
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S.J.W
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PimpHandsMe and my bud have just opted for a CAST touring set up- just waiting on the plates, alraedy got the toe pieces and had our new tilts converted to accept the tech toe.
Means we can rock our P18/FKS on the way down and tech toe on the way up!


Will you guys be touring this year in Australia out to blue lake and other places in Australia this season?
Jun 18 2014 12:41AM
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tomPietrowski
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I still don't totally get this set up. So you need to buy some alpine bindings say a p18 then a set of tech bindings say radicals which you will never use the heels of. So that alone is at least $800. Then you need to buy the cast system. I don't know how much that costs but I'm guessing at least say 200. So you are now 1000 in. Why would you not just buy a beast or two sets of guardians(incase one breaks). Also if you are riding the tech toe on the way up you presumably have already got new boots too accept that toe,so why not just use a beat style binding for everything. I may be missing something but it just seems like an extension of treckers to me really and sort of a waste of money.
Jun 18 2014 7:37PM
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tomPietrowski
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PimpHandsMe and my bud have just opted for a CAST touring set up- just waiting on the plates, alraedy got the toe pieces and had our new tilts converted to accept the tech toe.
Means we can rock our P18/FKS on the way down and tech toe on the way up!


Which boots are you using and which toe pieces have you got to fit on them?
Jun 18 2014 7:40PM
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~Gotama~
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tomPietrowskiI still don't totally get this set up. So you need to buy some alpine bindings say a p18 then a set of tech bindings say radicals which you will never use the heels of. So that alone is at least $800. Then you need to buy the cast system. I don't know how much that costs but I'm guessing at least say 200. So you are now 1000 in. Why would you not just buy a beast or two sets of guardians(incase one breaks). Also if you are riding the tech toe on the way up you presumably have already got new boots too accept that toe,so why not just use a beat style binding for everything. I may be missing something but it just seems like an extension of treckers to me really and sort of a waste of money.


Its a billion times lighter than Guardians, and a million times less sketchy than beasts. It is hugely expensive, yes, but if you are able to invest then it makes an absolute best of both worlds. Because compromise is for poor people.
Jun 19 2014 12:01AM
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ShredMasterPlus
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They also sell the toe's separate from the hell on the Dynafits.
Jun 19 2014 12:22AM
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tomPietrowski
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~Gotama~Its a billion times lighter than Guardians, and a million times less sketchy than beasts. It is hugely expensive, yes, but if you are able to invest then it makes an absolute best of both worlds. Because compromise is for poor people.


How is it any lighter then a guardian? Sure if you don't use a p18 you can save some weight but you still are adding plates and carrying extra toe pieces so the weight argument I don't think really stands up.

As for the beast I would say going forward you will see a lot of good things from that binding and the beast 14 an wen I think the radical 2. I don't know just seems like a weird way to do it me.
Jun 19 2014 12:40AM
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Mag
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tomPietrowskiHow is it any lighter then a guardian? Sure if you don't use a p18 you can save some weight but you still are adding plates and carrying extra toe pieces so the weight argument I don't think really stands up.

As for the beast I would say going forward you will see a lot of good things from that binding and the beast 14 an wen I think the radical 2. I don't know just seems like a weird way to do it me.


You're not physically carrying any less, but the skis themselves have no heel, just a feather of a toepiece, which would be ridiculously fucking awesome.

You can set the FKS in your pack and you still have an awesome binding for the way down.
Jun 19 2014 3:45AM
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LC.
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...or just ski Dynafits and hold back a little.
Jun 19 2014 4:37AM
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Ghini
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Boax...or just ski Dynafits and hold back a little.


This.. I'm going tech only next season..
Some people might need the CAST setup, but I think a lot of people that own a set could do the same things they do with a solid pair of tech bindings.. I guess the safety release is a big advantage over some tech bindings.. I dont send huge tricks in the BC so I'll stick to my trusted no-nonsense bombproof tech bindings untill the next generation of tech bindings are here..
Jun 19 2014 7:44AM
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ShredMasterPlus
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I think the CAST has definite advantages for a Do anything ski. Take a set of Plug boots with some toe's. Will ski inbound's pretty much like any other set up and then for slack access where there is not to much elevation gain, you suffer with no walk mode but get an excellent ride down. Hey techs are awesome won't trade mine away at all but having a solid alpine binding/boot for the descent sounds awesome.
Jun 19 2014 10:41AM
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tomPietrowski
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ShredMasterPlusI think the CAST has definite advantages for a Do anything ski. Take a set of Plug boots with some toe's. Will ski inbound's pretty much like any other set up and then for slack access where there is not to much elevation gain, you suffer with no walk mode but get an excellent ride down. Hey techs are awesome won't trade mine away at all but having a solid alpine binding/boot for the descent sounds awesome.


But why not get a freeride boot like a waymaker? Really stiff and responsive for the way down but still has a walk mode. Mix that with a guardian 16 and you also have really solid binding.
Jun 19 2014 1:00PM
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ShredMasterPlus
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I've heard about 4-5 reports of guardians breaking. broke my dukes this year. Having a dyna toe piece for the up is also a huge plus tours way better then the guardian/duke. Only things I'm concerned with are how badly it ices. I mean dukes ice like a mofo and I can deal with that so as long as its not any worse.
Jun 19 2014 1:08PM
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tomPietrowski
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MagYou're not physically carrying any less, but the skis themselves have no heel, just a feather of a toepiece, which would be ridiculously fucking awesome.

You can set the FKS in your pack and you still have an awesome binding for the way down.


Again I may be wrong but the heels stay on right. So on the way up you have the weight of the heel on the ski, which if they are a p18 is quite a bit.
Jun 19 2014 1:08PM
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ShredMasterPlus
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4-5 reports from people I know, not including lots I've heard about on the Internet.
Jun 19 2014 1:09PM
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tomPietrowski
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ShredMasterPlus4-5 reports from people I know, not including lots I've heard about on the Internet.


Is that guardian problems? Yeah if you ski them without the heel Locked the arms can snap. But so long as the heel is locked, so make sure there is no icing before locking down you will not have any issues. And yes I agree the tech toe is much better for the way up, so why not just ride tech for the way down too.
Jun 19 2014 1:15PM
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ShredMasterPlus
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^^Same durability/safety issues, Toe locked and you can easily fuck your knees, Toe unlocked and i've popped out in variable snow multiple times. I figure if your already planning on having an alpine setup for the hill. tossing it on top of some plates so that you have the option of touring with it without having to switch to a touring binding.

Everything ski's and reacts the same so you don't have to adjust your style to a new boot/binding for slack laps. Keeps everything consistent. I did like my dukes and had no problem with them but seeing as I basically only used them for super short tours this last season since I had a light tech set-up for most things I feel that might as well go with the full alpine set-up for the BC. Can also bring 1 of the spare toes on longer missions as a backup incase something shits the bed.
Jun 19 2014 1:21PM
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tomPietrowski
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ShredMasterPlus^^Same durability/safety issues, Toe locked and you can easily fuck your knees, Toe unlocked and i've popped out in variable snow multiple times. I figure if your already planning on having an alpine setup for the hill. tossing it on top of some plates so that you have the option of touring with it without having to switch to a touring binding.

Everything ski's and reacts the same so you don't have to adjust your style to a new boot/binding for slack laps. Keeps everything consistent. I did like my dukes and had no problem with them but seeing as I basically only used them for super short tours this last season since I had a light tech set-up for most things I feel that might as well go with the full alpine set-up for the BC. Can also bring 1 of the spare toes on longer missions as a backup incase something shits the bed.


I can totally see your pint it's just to me for the cost element I think I woul just go treckers. Like you say this system is prob best suited for short tours so why not save a load of money and not stick extra holes in the skis for the plates, and just use treckers?
Jun 19 2014 1:28PM
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Huck_Norris
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tomPietrowskiHow is it any lighter then a guardian? Sure if you don't use a p18 you can save some weight but you still are adding plates and carrying extra toe pieces so the weight argument I don't think really stands up.

As for the beast I would say going forward you will see a lot of good things from that binding and the beast 14 an wen I think the radical 2. I don't know just seems like a weird way to do it me.



It's really only expensive if you didn't already have the bindings you were planning on using, which I feel most who are doing this do. I think the strong point of this system is for patrolling, photography and other heavy work personally but it will work for everything else too obviously. I will be using it for patrolling specifically because I need a super stout binding for rescue sled work and hard skiing with big packs but I also need to be able to get places uphill fast at a moment's notice. The beast is cool but it's $1k flat out no matter what you've already got and you still either need to buy the compatible boots (not possible for everyone) or get your stockers modified for the heel- and you still have the massively increased potential for toe icing issues with any exposed toe spring like that. If you ski the resort they will NOT behave like a regular binding either. Low Tech guys will know what I'm talking about and it's not awesome. If you're in the BC every day though, yes the beast would be a great choice.


tomPietrowskiBut why not get a freeride boot like a waymaker? Really stiff and responsive for the way down but still has a walk mode. Mix that with a guardian 16 and you also have really solid binding.



I have the Pinnacle 130s which I've changed the upper of pretty significantly to free up the walk mode and negate spreading forces inherent to their upper design in V.1

Love those boots. God they're fucking amazing. Sure the walk mode kind of sucks and they're heavy but who gives a shit? The dyna toes give you the range anyways, and I've never had an issue with them going uphill. If your ass can't get them up the hill don't blame the boot, y'know? Liners are fucking amazing, shel is sublime and remarkably Lange-like yet wider and actually keeps your feet dry. Also dual capability AFD sole/Dyna toes are fucking awesome and perfect for this system. I'd want these boots even if I didn't have the CAST system TBH.


I'm not saying it's for everybody but who cares? It's sick and I love it. The setup works awesome in all areas, does everything and never gives me shit or requires a second guess. That right there is worth it's weight in gold... In my pack on the uphill.
Jun 19 2014 3:53PM
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tomPietrowski
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^yeah I guess for patroller use it could be pretty awesome. Needing a good binding for te way down pulling sleds I totally get. And yeah switch out the toe quickly will be good for you guys I guess. Most patrollers here are on guardians so I will be interested to see if some adopt this system. How much is te cast system btw?

And boot wise yeah those k2's are good. I would put them with the other freeride boots like the waymaker, freedom and possibly the quest. That is where I see the biggest sales in tech boots. Sure tlt6's are great and light but you can't drive them like you can a freeride boot. So for most here freeride boots will be te way to go.
Jun 19 2014 4:03PM
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Huck_Norris
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tomPietrowski^yeah I guess for patroller use it could be pretty awesome. Needing a good binding for te way down pulling sleds I totally get. And yeah switch out the toe quickly will be good for you guys I guess. Most patrollers here are on guardians so I will be interested to see if some adopt this system. How much is te cast system btw?

And boot wise yeah those k2's are good. I would put them with the other freeride boots like the waymaker, freedom and possibly the quest. That is where I see the biggest sales in tech boots. Sure tlt6's are great and light but you can't drive them like you can a freeride boot. So for most here freeride boots will be te way to go.


Yeah I have been on enough really light setups to know it's not for me. Even tour edition skis I generally don't like unless it's for pow only duty.

Personally I'm really enjoying this new niche in gear. It may not be perfect yet but Rome wasn't built in a day either and this is still a relatively new market. Give it some time and I think we will have some really cool things coming from this in any case.
Jun 19 2014 4:27PM
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tomPietrowski
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Huck_NorrisYeah I have been on enough really light setups to know it's not for me. Even tour edition skis I generally don't like unless it's for pow only duty.

Personally I'm really enjoying this new niche in gear. It may not be perfect yet but Rome wasn't built in a day either and this is still a relatively new market. Give it some time and I think we will have some really cool things coming from this in any case.


Yeah I'm really looking forward to these new tech bindings. I actually think the radical two may be the one for me but for you maybe a beast 14. But I think more importantly is the fact that dynafit is now taking customers away from alpine binding manufactures. You will see the bigger brands releasing tech bindings next season well 15/16 and I think that Is a step in the right direction. Once say salomon have a well selling tech binding a salomon beast is just round the corner. So big tech bindings are just about here so that is why I question this cast system. But I can see its uses, especially for those that already have a setup with nice alpine bindings and are just looking to upgrade for the uphills.
Jun 19 2014 6:01PM
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AwR
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Last nite.

Plow Crew 2014


on the way up


the view
Jun 20 2014 11:42AM
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Nacho+
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I'm a little late to the party here, but I guess it better to get started now....

Anyway I have a quick gear question for you guys. Are tech bindings worth it? First, I am a beginner, but I don't really want to buy standard AT bindings and then later in have to buy tech bindings. That just seems like a waste if a few hundred $$. Is it easier to start on standard? Are tech bindings just as strong/responsive as standard. I will do most of my skiing in the white mountains of NH, so trips won't be too long, and packs won't be too heavy. Any suggestions for a regular binding as well would be great. I'm sure it's been asked before, sorry for the repeat
Jun 21 2014 5:52PM
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Ghini
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hippys_sex_toyI'm a little late to the party here, but I guess it better to get started now....

Anyway I have a quick gear question for you guys. Are tech bindings worth it? First, I am a beginner, but I don't really want to buy standard AT bindings and then later in have to buy tech bindings. That just seems like a waste if a few hundred $$. Is it easier to start on standard? Are tech bindings just as strong/responsive as standard. I will do most of my skiing in the white mountains of NH, so trips won't be too long, and packs won't be too heavy. Any suggestions for a regular binding as well would be great. I'm sure it's been asked before, sorry for the repeat


beginner + short trips + light packs = go for an AT binding..
Jun 21 2014 5:57PM
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tomPietrowski
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Camembertbeginner + short trips + light packs = go for an AT binding..


Yeah I would agree. For getting into touring start with a freeride binding and boots. Don't forget if you go tech you may well need to upgrade boots too whereas a freeride will work with standard boots.
Jun 21 2014 6:01PM
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snowfinder
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Is there any snowshoes that a ski boot can clip in too? I want to get in to Touring but I really dont want to get a whole new set up .
Jun 21 2014 7:51PM
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shrEddie
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I am trying to plan for next season. Last season I toured on bentchet's and adrenalines and I don't want to use either of those next season. I am definitely buying katanas and p18s for an inbounds ski, and was thinking of buying a full tech setup as well. I could get a good deal on some bd's and vipecs, but it would still be alot to spend on skis in one season. this thread has gotten me thinking about the cast system. That would probably be cheaper than a full setup, and obviously better for skiing.
In all of your opinions, would the cast system hold up to 130+ days skiing inbounds at alta/the bird and touring the rest of the wasatch. Probably 60/40 inbounds vs out. I'm 215lbs and hopefully will be sending huge cliffs left and right, so I'm looking for the burliest set up I can find.
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