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Adobe premiere - 2:35:1 - How to?

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Downtofilm
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Does anyone have a work flow for this?

In FCP I usually add the widescreen filter then offset the image to make it work, I have not figured out how to master this in Premiere.

Anyone have any tips?

Word.
Nov 12 2012 2:11AM
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CrotchKiller
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do the same thing.
Widescreen filter and then when exporting it is incredibly easy to set up the crop you want. Just use the crop feature and then look at the output tab to see if its what you want.
Nov 12 2012 2:53AM
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heath
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But, I noticed while using the widescreen filter it becomes attached to the image. So, if you adjust the image to fit the screen, the widescreen moves with it. Also, if you stabilize, the widescreen bounces around with the image like its part of the clip, not a matte on top. Am I doing something wrong? -_______-

Also, I tried about 100 times to export 235 out of adobe and could never get it to work. Guess I'm just a noob?
Nov 12 2012 2:59AM
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CrotchKiller
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i downloaded a pack with a shit ton of crop bars. Its just a png file that i drop on the track above my video clips. That way I can adjust the clip and the widescreen mask is not affected at all.

As far as exporting. Don't ask me why i do it like this but i do.
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Heath my export settings would actually work for you because they are 1080.

not sure if any of that helps. I learned from a ton of trial and eror so it's hard to put into words haha
Nov 12 2012 3:09AM
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CrotchKiller
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damn, sorry for the shit quality picture
Nov 12 2012 3:10AM
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family_vacation
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http://whoismatt.com/cinemascopetutorial/

Just use their crop guide to adjust the image. If you're working in 720 simply adjust the scale of the guide to 66.6 and change the crop settings (when exporting) accordingly.
Nov 12 2012 12:39PM
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Mag
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I don't see why there's an advantage over just overlaying black bars?
Nov 12 2012 1:31PM
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Downtofilm
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2:35:1 makes things more cinematic.
Nov 12 2012 1:48PM
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CrotchKiller
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Go do some research
Nov 12 2012 1:50PM
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Mag
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My question is why not just overlay black bars to get the footage to 2.35, it seems the easiest way
Nov 12 2012 1:54PM
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Galin
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The easiest and most versatile way I've found is just setting up your sequence to have the proper amount of pixels for 2.35:1. So, if you're working with 1080p footage, set up your sequence with square pixels as 1920x817.(817x2.35=1920). A simple solution and it allows you to mess around with the composition of your images.
Nov 12 2012 8:44PM
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edai
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Because it's ugly.
Nov 12 2012 8:57PM
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SSteezle
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it's exactly what it looks like when you watch it full screen..
Nov 12 2012 8:59PM
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heath
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protip for vimeo, you need to have an even second number (either 816 or 818) or else there is a weird white line on the bottom.
Nov 12 2012 10:31PM
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CrotchKiller
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Yep.found that out the hard way
Nov 13 2012 12:57AM
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BA.berger
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http://cineblur.com/free-aspect-ratio-overlays/ this one is helpful!
Nov 13 2012 8:21AM
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MatRich
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Create a null object or an effect track with the bars above your actual video on the timeline. In theory this should not move when you move arround your effect.
Nov 13 2012 11:13AM
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Childstar.
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Threads for when I'm back from mexicoland
Nov 13 2012 1:06PM
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tombu
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Sorry off topic but can someone PM me a working torrent of premiere pro cs6?
Nov 13 2012 1:21PM
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heath
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I sure hope everyone doesn't start using 235...
Nov 13 2012 4:59PM
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1337
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Only qualified professionals should, unlike bluenames such as yourself
Nov 13 2012 5:08PM
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Mkvackay
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haha made me chuckle.

seriously though i like when some people use it and use it well, i hope it doesn't make some sort of trend bullshit
Nov 13 2012 5:12PM
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WillStart
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pretty sure we're already past that point
Nov 13 2012 5:13PM
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1337
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also, go with 2.4:1, it's closer to the true anamorphic 2.39:1 ratio anyways (it's also a nice number of 1920x800!)
Nov 13 2012 5:16PM
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1337
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as for myself? I'm thinking panavision 2.75:1 or polyvision 4:1
Nov 13 2012 5:19PM
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CrotchKiller
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I am guilty of this, no doubt.
Nov 13 2012 5:38PM
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drwclrk
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How come, when I lay the PSD file on top of the timeline in Premiere, I dont see the bars? Shouldn't they appear naturally?
Nov 14 2012 8:39PM
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mmallender.
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threads for more video knowledge!
Nov 14 2012 9:04PM
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drwclrk
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I'm going to bump bc I'm anxious!
Nov 15 2012 11:22AM
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SSteezle
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play with the scale it's prob. just too large so it's out of frame
Nov 15 2012 12:32PM
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family_vacation
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indeed.

Guilty as charged right here. I just really enjoy the amount of horizontal space.
Nov 15 2012 2:42PM
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Laurent.
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Polyvision is so fucking artsy, it makes people thin specs and black polarnecks grab their chin and say "hmmm", which is about the best possible reaction you can get, anymore cheerfull and they meant it in an ironic way.

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Nov 15 2012 10:31PM
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Holte
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Yeah, throw a PSD letterbox matte on the top layer while editing, and then crop 132 pixels North and South on export. Editing at 1920x1080 almost always gives better playback performance than a 1920x816 sequence, especially if you're outputting to an external monitor.
Nov 15 2012 11:13PM
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WillStart
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*lack of vertical space, seeing as the amount of horizontal space is no different
Nov 16 2012 2:32AM
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MatRich
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it is different if you go into the project knowing it will be this format and frame with this in mind. when well done, this format allows for wider views rather than shooting and then cropping to a tighter shot. if shot with the intent of converting to a wider format it does add a wider horizon.
Nov 16 2012 6:38PM
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WillStart
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true, but what I said still stands. you aren't gaining horizontal space, you are just learning to shoot wider.
Nov 17 2012 4:14AM
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MatRich
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You dont gain in terms of horizontal pixels but i doubt thats what he ment.
Nov 17 2012 8:37AM
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WillStart
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I know that but I think people kind of subconsciously kid themselves and don't realize that when it comes down to it you're just hacking off part of your image for the sake of looking more artsy. It can work, but not when the skiers are losing their torsos and heads as a result. /end 2.35:1 rant

I think it's being used well this year, and that's sick. But man I hated it last year.
Nov 17 2012 9:52AM
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