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Keystone Opening Weekend

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gravel
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Yesterday was my first film day this season and I went up with some of my younger friends and filmed them hitting up the temporary A-51 at Keystone. A lot of it was experimenting with and getting used to my new lenses and glidecam. Here's the result, critiques welcome.


Self Critique (After the fact of exporting, uploading, etc.):

1. Shot at 1:14 was a little bright, should have darkened it a little
2. Cut 3 blind 2's in a row without realizing it


Thanks!

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gravel
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more like 1:17
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TijmenDal
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Cool edit! Really liked it! Park looked sick. Super jealous you got to go skiing

Two things:

- Maybe try to get a *little* closer on some of the shots. A few were shot a tad too wide/far away, kinda missing out on the action and allowing other people to get in the frame
- Tell the second kid to get some poles. Hopefully his skiing will benifit from it.
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gravel
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hahaha, thanks tijmen! i'll try to get a tighter frame...

and he's not using poles because he broke and tore up/apart his finger and can't grip with one hand, so he's going nopoles for a while.
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TijmenDal
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Oh ok. I'm saying because his upper body is a noodle. He should really tighten his core more when he's skiing and having poles really, really helps with that!
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jeb_b_vt
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I liked it! Shots looked smooth! what lens did you use?
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gravel
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oh, good advice! i'll pass it along for when he's got a better finger.
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gravel
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thanks man!

tokina 11-16 and tamron 17-50
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E-fry
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Dope edit!!

you succeeded in making me really jealous of your opening day park and made me unable to wait for dec. 4th-14th.
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Sklar
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Really nice man!
Made me miss CO a lot.

A couple things to watch out for:
The framing was pretty solid, some shots could be cleaned up/tightened up a little bit, but good overall
The colors weren't super consistant, there were some shots that didn't fit quite so well. It looked like you were going for the soft(raised) blacks, which is your choice to use or not, but if you o use it, make sure to try and be consistant throughout. SOme shots the white balance was to yellowish, giving your snow a funny look.
Are you using a histogram when you adjust levels/do colors? some shots looked under exposed in the snow. IMO, it's okay to blow out some sky/clouds to get a better exposure on the snow.
It looked kind of tough with changing light and clouds, but overall, nice job!
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gravel
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you left CO? bummer!

i can totally see what you mean. i was going for a warmer look and purposefully offed the white balance to give it some oranges. otherwise, i'll work harder at evening it all out next time.

should i be using a histogram? i'm not right now.
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Sklar
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I'm out in WA at school :(

histograms are a great tool to use along with a waveform when doing levels/color stuff, you use it pretty much just like you would with a photo
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norgeanders
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hell yea gavin thats what i'm talkin about good job man
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gravel
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yeah dog! let's ski sometime now that i know who you are!
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Dwarftosser1
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Liked it!

The colors seemed a tad too warm in some shots, as I think Sklar previously pointed out, gave the snow at times a lewd yellowish hint. Personally think a cooler look would have done better.

Really wish I could of been up there, first weekend in like six months I'm out of town haha, Nice Job Man!
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zahava
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Not sure on this; does rule of 1/3's apply to video like it does photography? IMO felt everything was just dead centre. Agree with the colours being under-expsoed and warm, as well as the shots being a bit too zoomed out, get closer! I liked the song choice.

Doesn't really have to do with filming but I felt the skiing was kinda lacking a bit, got boring towards the end, could have been just as effective if it were half the length. I realize not everyone can film bangers 24/7, more about the length on that one.
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bo0b
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Not as much.

I'm super jealous of your park setup! I also really like what you did at 1:34. Pretty much everything else has been said
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freeskibum82
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kid in the white shirt looks like he's wearing a dress.. ill be glad when the tall tee/hoodie thing is over

nice filming. looks like you had fun
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WillStart
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maybe not in ski filming, where framing dead center all the time is "acceptable."


framing and composition are always important and should be taken into consideration for every shot. just like in photography, you don't HAVE to follow rule of thirds. it's at the artist's discretion. but it's a good general guideline that can help out with composition a lot
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[~_~]
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Yes. They are the exact same.
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WillStart
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It's weird how people forget that video/film is a series of photographs.
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zahava
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Kind of, well one is a single still and the other captures motion.
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WillStart
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yeah, so that adds an element, but rules of composition still apply. that was more of a reply to the other kid since you were asking an honest question whereas he actually believes that rule of thirds isn't really important for video.
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bo0b
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I believe it's really important for video, but for followcams on skiing not so much.
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[~_~]
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I think it applies equally to anything, it's just that with follow cams its so difficult that everyone unanimously says "fuck it" and pretends it doesn't matter.
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dispatchQ_main
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Honestly the whole thing was pretty boring and repetitive. Interviews weren't funny, colours weren't that great and the skiing was pretty bad.

Remember content is king and if the skiing is bad then it doesn't matter how good the filming is. The video still won't be that great.


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[~_~]
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I cringed.
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dispatchQ_main
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why? it's a skiing video... obviously good filming is essential but the skiing is whats gonna make people watch the video.


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Benji.
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No.
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tcgoldman
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damn i hate you!!! that was sick though. I'm just mad that i wasn't able to make it to keystone for opening week
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[~_~]
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It's a blanket statement; not everyone will agree on what makes a good video.
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CrotchKiller
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You're in the media and arts forum, what do you expect people to judge a video on here?
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erikK
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don't know if anyone else hated the interviews as much as i did, but i couldn't stand that kid. i agree with everything else people have said.
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CrotchKiller
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Ya, that was totally unneeded
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gravel
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Noted

Thanks all for the contribution to what I can improve, I look forward to making a better edit in the future.

And the guy isn't a douchebag, I guess you just have to know him to better get the humor, that being said, i'll avoid long quotes like such as they seem to have been interpreted negatively.
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CrotchKiller
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i used to do the same thing in my edits but if your video is being viewed by a wider audience they don't get the inside jokes and humor that you do.
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