Just picked up a pair of 2013 armada thalls. They look amazing they are so light. The rasta pin stripping on the deck is amazing. Also saw the new 2013 halo's. If you were worried about the graphic being too fruity, don't worry about it anymore. They look much better in person. The only reason I didn't get them was the sizes it came it really didn't feel right to me. The 176 felt too tall( I know they're rockered) but the 170 felt too short. i really came down to what size was right and the construction of the skis. I ended up going with the 171 thalls. I've never talked bad about anything armada has made and never plan too. Go get yourself some armadas people. The line this year is amazing. From the new gore tex collab vector series to the harlaut model requiem. I also plan on getting the couloir gore tex jacket with fixed pant. Winter can't come to soon. Outwear ships out sept 1st. Get it while it's hot.