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You think gopro is going to challenge redbull?

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accualyisdolan
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to me they pretty much own the small camcorder (camera) market and the amount of capital theyve put together so far will safely keep them ahead of sony etc in r and d. i personally see them colliding with redbull for the biggest extreme sports company. maybe passing them.

i mean look at the shit theyre sponsoring these days.




Jul 29 2012 2:40PM
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Aidan-G
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They would have to expand out of extreme sports to be bigger than red bull
Jul 29 2012 2:43PM
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accualyisdolan
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i think they are on the verge of doing that which is y i posted the vid.
thats a pikes peak escudo for anybody liking gran turismo nostalgia. in gt3 it had 1700 hp
Jul 29 2012 2:44PM
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fujarome
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red bull has obscene amounts of money that most companies can only dream of.

I mean...Red Bull has it's own air force.
Jul 29 2012 2:46PM
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74267000027
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yet, only 1 flavour of energy drink.
Jul 29 2012 2:51PM
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accualyisdolan
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here is multi camera view


Jul 29 2012 2:51PM
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SkierPT
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Gopro makes cameras...redbull makes drinks ect....redbull used gopros in art of flight. I see no competition. If anything they'd partner up more
Jul 29 2012 2:59PM
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-Mugatu
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Redbull uses GoPro's sometimes.. Your looking to in depth at it.. Totally different markets, and no, GoPro will never have the same amount of pro athletes/money/coverage RedBull does.
Jul 29 2012 3:03PM
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Wallisch_pl
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gopro gives away gopro 2's cor free daily, and redbull sponsors kids at the age of 12! I felt like letting that out
Jul 29 2012 3:10PM
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yourthemannowdog
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No he is not looking "too* in DEPTH at it"

He is building conclusions on false observations and making large leaps in his logic
Jul 29 2012 3:16PM
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TechnoPotamus
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no chance they'll ever come close to red bull.

red bull sponsors a fucking professional soccer team (NY red bulls) among all the other people and things they do that you guys know of.




look at it this way, red bull is so much more accessible for the average person. A can of redbull can be bought at pretty much any gas station or grocery store you go to - anywhere, and it only costs you .. what 1.99? 2.99?

vs. gopro cameras which aren't sold in nearly as many distribution channels, therefore limiting the ways people can acquire them - as well as the fact that the cheapest gopro camera is over $100.00.
Jul 29 2012 3:28PM
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74267000027
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in another perspective
2.99 is a lot of money for 250ml of a sub par beverage that's really bad for you.

but $150ish is very cheap for a camera capable of what go pros can do.

you're still right though. just sayin
Jul 29 2012 3:36PM
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Aidan-G
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Yeah but what puts red bull so far ahead is that red bull is sold in a much higher volume every day while people buy a gopro and don't buy another one for a very long time if ever
Jul 29 2012 3:46PM
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Balto
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RB will always have more cash flow till people stop drinking it, gopros will only last till a different brand does it better
Jul 29 2012 3:48PM
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accualyisdolan
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i was going to say a merger might be possible... either way i think gopro is going to get extremely big
Jul 29 2012 4:20PM
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accualyisdolan
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thats what im saying tho. i think gopro is unusurpable- they have such a head start on everybody else in the cheap but good small camera market.... sort of like how ipods came out of nowhere.

and everybody saying redbull this redbull that, remember that at one point redbull was a small company selling energy drinks. gopro is still pretty young... doubt it at ur own risk
Jul 29 2012 4:28PM
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Tinga
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maybe the OP means that gopro's marketing will begin to over take the grandeur that is red bull's marketing...

which would be fucking epic to have the two competing.
Jul 29 2012 4:32PM
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fujarome
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i don't think the op quite understands how business sponsorships work.

Red Bull will always be bigger than gopro because it will always have more money. As has been said, you can go to literally any store and get red bull for relatively cheap. (expensive for what it is, but under $3 for anything is cheap)

People are always going to drink stuff. And more people are going to drink it than will ever film stuff.

so yes, gopro will grow amongst sports and other areas in which a cheap, relatively good camera product is needed. But that's it.


Basically, if you offer a product to people who will drink something (literally every single human being ever) you are going to make more money than if you appeal to those who want to film with this very specific camera.


Jul 29 2012 9:56PM
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ski4fun420
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One more point. Any successful business will always have new competition coming after a piece of the pie. Redbull has already taken on tons of competition and come out on top.
Gopro has not faced any real competition yet. I would imagine they will. The camera business always been ultra competitive if you look at companies like Polaroid and Kodak. I think from a business standpoint Redbull has the upper hand and always will.
Jul 29 2012 11:55PM
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.ZT.
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Go Pro has competition in the camera market already and also comparing Red Bull to go pro is silly, unless you mean in terms of the things that they sponsor.... which still go pro can't compete with
Jul 30 2012 12:15AM
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ski4fun420
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I was definitely not trying to compare the two. I was just trying to state a basic business principle. Competition never goes away. Redbull in my opinion is just a much better company long term.
Jul 30 2012 12:52AM
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Murphology
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exactly what i was thinking, i see them becoming a huge collab company rather than a competition
Jul 30 2012 1:03AM
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LivinOuttaBounZ
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Jul 30 2012 1:08AM
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Bill.Nye
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I didn't check the numbers but if they have more capital to put into R&D than Sony I would be very surprised.
Jul 30 2012 1:14AM
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jtucker29
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i think they could be bigger than redbull but it would be hard
Jul 30 2012 1:19AM
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DaffyDaDak
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Jul 30 2012 3:02AM
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whoa-dere
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sugar free, cola....
Jul 30 2012 3:05AM
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daannnnieel
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this thread is so stupid. I don't know anything about any sort of industry, and I can tell you that they will never need to challenge each other. If anything, they help each other out. Redbull uses cameras, gopro gets publicity. Simple as that.
Jul 30 2012 3:38AM
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sweatshirt
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ITT: teenagers talking economics.
Jul 30 2012 4:10AM
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youngdtay
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Sudar free? What an amazingly different flavour, and I've never heard of cola red bull. But how the motherfuck did an energy drink company make it so ridiculously hard on one flavour?
Jul 30 2012 5:32AM
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razors-chaz
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Red Bull have recently released a cranberry (red),a blueberry (blue), and a lime (silver) flavoured drink in mainland europe bringing their product role to 7 drinks inc red bull cola, energy shot, suger free and original. it is only recently and doesnt explain how massive they have become.
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i tried all of them recently at a comp in austria and the blue and silver are really nice, red is ok and all are a massive improvement on the original red bull flavour. I'm not sure on the roll out date for the rest of europe and the world. Red bull have been so good through a massive marketing budget and strategy of sponsoring almost any sporting event and through masses of advertisement and sampling they have become the synonym for energy drink resulting in massive sales and exponentially increasing their budget for more marketing and sponsorship. All because of a smart move by the owner who bought the rights to the recipe for an east asian energy drink. In reply to the OP the products that the two companies are selling are two non conflicting products and in acctuat fact help each othersell each others product. gopro provides cameras for red bull to market their energy drinks and events, and red bull put on/sponsor events which can be filmed on gopros in ways not done before by any other camera company helping them sell their cameras.

Jul 30 2012 8:51AM
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